EPTOn May 03 2015 01:16 Ej_ wrote:
Maru #1 the biggest lie ever since "Elephant in the Room"
Maru #1 the biggest lie ever since "Elephant in the Room"
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rotta
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
On May 03 2015 01:21 Elentos wrote: I didn't say anything about herO's PvT. But the fact is, PartinG is the only Protoss you can reliably trust to beat any Terran in the world including Maru. herO vs Maru is much closer. Eh, even Maru said in interviews that he feared herO in TvP. herO and PartinG are both exceptional against terran so I think its a reasonable discussion to have. Remember this game though? herO's defensive play is very very good | ||
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sharkie
Austria18592 Posts
On May 03 2015 01:18 Elentos wrote: PartinG is the best PvT player in the world by far, their PvZ isn't far apart and in PvP PartinG is less vulnerable to proxy gates than herO. Also, PartinG's "only achievement this year" is still further than herO has gotten in that tournament in his entire career. It's not without reason. PvZ is pretty far apart. No one would ever expect Parting to beat Life in a series whereas herO vs Life would be rated 50-50 by almost everyone. Even Zealously isn't sure of Life winning when he faces herO. And herO totally proved a few days ago who is better in PvP. So herO is better in PvP and PvZ and loses only to PvT slightly. herO is dominating proleague, Parting is dominating small tournaments. | ||
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Ej_
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Elentos
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On May 03 2015 01:23 Alucen-Will- wrote: Eh, even Maru said in interviews that he feared herO in TvP. herO and PartinG are both exceptional against terran so I think its a reasonable discussion to have. Remember this game though? herO's defensive play is very very good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Oh8voodcM So is PartinG's. Even though PartinG is commonly aggressive himself, he also knows how to defend very well. And Maru himself even said after winning his SSL group that he just hopes that PartinG hurries up and gets himself eliminated quickly so he doesn't have to play him. | ||
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
On May 03 2015 01:24 sharkie wrote: PvZ is pretty far apart. No one would ever expect Parting to beat Life in a series whereas herO vs Life would be rated 50-50 by almost everyone. Even Zealously isn't sure of Life winning when he faces herO. And herO totally proved a few days ago who is better in PvP. So herO is better in PvP and PvZ and loses only to PvT slightly. herO is dominating proleague, Parting is dominating small tournaments. oh wait, PartinG just lost in game 7 of the gsl finals? lol. He also lost to life in the semifinals of IEM Taipei. Not only that, PvZ is by far his worst matchup. I would say PartinG is a DAMN good player. | ||
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helius788
New Zealand74 Posts
On May 03 2015 01:16 Ej_ wrote: Maru #1 the biggest lie ever since "Elephant in the Room" It's hard to deny that Maru's current form is top notch. Maru at #1 is totally reasonable imo | ||
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
On May 03 2015 01:25 Elentos wrote: So is PartinG's. Even though PartinG is commonly aggressive himself, he also knows how to defend very well. And Maru himself even said after winning his SSL group that he just hopes that PartinG hurries up and gets himself eliminated quickly so he doesn't have to play him. Lol we are pretty much agreeing here  Rogue and Maru both said they don't want to play PartinG lol. | ||
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Elentos
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On May 03 2015 01:24 sharkie wrote: PvZ is pretty far apart. No one would ever expect Parting to beat Life in a series whereas herO vs Life would be rated 50-50 by almost everyone. Even Zealously isn't sure of Life winning when he faces herO. And herO totally proved a few days ago who is better in PvP. So herO is better in PvP and PvZ and loses only to PvT slightly. herO is dominating proleague, Parting is dominating small tournaments. They are dead even in PvP. PartinG should, by all accounts, have won game 2. herO got lucky as shit and didn't prove superiority. And while nobody would have expected PartinG to beat Life in PvZ before the GSL finals, he got just as close as herO did. | ||
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Elentos
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On May 03 2015 01:25 helius788 wrote: It's hard to deny that Maru's current form is top notch. Maru at #1 is totally reasonable imo Maru can also play mech. I heard it's OP. So obviously he should be #1. | ||
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
On May 03 2015 01:27 Elentos wrote: They are dead even in PvP. PartinG should, by all accounts, have won game 2. herO got lucky as shit and didn't prove superiority. And while nobody would have expected PartinG to beat Life in PvZ before the GSL finals, he got just as close as herO did. PartinG kind of threw that game on Cactus Valley yeah. He is really an incredible player who's game intuiton and creativity is pretty much untouchable outside of maybe Life. His loss in that group is probably the most impressive play I have ever seen actually lose a series (with reserves to Flash at HSC) Some of the things he did in that series were fucking beautiful. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On May 03 2015 01:21 Ej_ wrote: I'm sure he wouldn't hesitate to start a 3rd CC though. CC first and die trying | ||
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
CC first and die trying ***without an scv scout**** FYI, CC first is fine in both TvZ and TvP provided:' you scv scout and the zerg doesn't 6 pool the protoss doesn't 2 gate inbase proxy the protoss doesn't go for the fastest possible oracle the protoss doesn't go for a 10 gate zealot the protoss doesn't 4 gate Wait nvm. Here's how to defend a 10 pool against cc first, via Flash himself : Starts at 1:53 http://www.twitch.tv/taketv/b/589076612 | ||
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Elentos
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On May 03 2015 01:34 Alucen-Will- wrote: CC first and die trying ***without an scv scout**** FYI, CC first is fine in both TvZ and TvP provided:' you scv scout and the zerg doesn't 6 pool the protoss doesn't 2 gate inbase proxy the protoss doesn't go for the fastest possible oracle the protoss doesn't go for a 10 gate zealot the protoss doesn't 4 gate Wait nvm. Mh, shouldn't a 4-gate be holdable with CC first depending on the follow-up? | ||
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
On May 03 2015 01:38 Elentos wrote: Mh, shouldn't a 4-gate be holdable with CC first depending on the follow-up? I think so actually, I don't really play cc first against protoss much so I'm not 100% sure. Honestly against protoss you should almost always open reaper because scouting is invaluable | ||
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banjoetheredskin
United States744 Posts
On May 03 2015 01:15 Elentos wrote: You won't reveal who wrote Myungsik so Lorning can't reach them, eh? come at me | ||
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Elentos
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Banjoe, you got any final words for TL before Lorning comes to end you?  | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 03 2015 01:46 Elentos wrote: Banjo, you got any final words for TL before Lorning comes to end you? "Prime sucks"? | ||
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Skynx
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