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[3SL] Group A: Lambs to the Slaughter - S2 2015

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[3SL] Group A: Lambs to the Slaughter - S2 2015

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Graphics byshiroiusagi, v1
April 23rd, 2015 02:32 GMT
2014 WCS

SBENU SC2 Starleague 2015 Season 2



3SL Main Event
Group A
Maru vs Hurricane
Zest vs Leenock

Brackets andLeenock gs on Liquipedia
Starcraft II Starleague

Lambs to the Slaughter

Thursday, Apr 23 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
by Destructicon

It's clear from the get go that Maru is the king of this jungle, and everyone else is the prey scrambling to get out of his way. After the lion stakes his claim and retires to his slumber it will be up to the rest to scrap it out for a spot in the Ro8.

And speaking of the young Jin Air ace, he is having the time of his life right now. After his loss to Dark at IEM Katowice, (T)Maru has gone on an absolute tear: he won the NSSL in dominating fashion, he qualified for the GSL and he defeated everyone sent against him in Proleague, including wins against Zest, Life and Stats in the critical semi-final match vs KT. Maru looks hotter than a supernova, and with winning records against everyone in his group, no one looks able to touch him. If Maru plays his early game cautiously to avoid death from any all-ins he should breeze through the group.

(P)Hurricane has finally managed to offset months of disappointments and mediocre results by qualifying for the main event of the S2SL with a clean 3-0 record over Rogue. For his troubles he is to be served on a silver platter as Maru's first victim. Hurricane's chances look slim here; Maru has defeated much stronger protoss lately while Hurricane himself has struggled in the match up in Proleague. If he has any hopes of reaching the next stage, he'll have to rumble with the rest of the group. He has show that he has what it takes to plan and win a PvZ series against a strong foe, so he could conceivably take out Leenock. However even if he defeats Leenock he has to go up against a PvP specialist in Zest. The odds are stacked again Hurricane here, who looks like he'll be brushed aside once more by the KeSPA titans.

(P)Zest finds himself in a odd spot in his career. Last year's breakout performance of winning 3 Korean tournaments, a feat not replicated since the days of NesTea and Mvp, gained him the title of player of the year. Now, Zest finds himself in the position of having to defend his claim from many new challengers, both old and new. So far Zest hasn't delivered. His results in Proleague, while still good, haven't lived up to his standards, and his early exits in the qualifiers of the big Korean tournaments have been embarrassing. Zest however did somewhat redeem himself with a win at IEM Katowice, and through his efforts in Proleague he was also awarded a spot in the S2SL. It has become clear that Zest's worst matchup is PvT, and while a 60% win rate is still nothing to scoff at he still seems to struggle against the very best terrans in the world. However through meticulous preparation he crushed Bbyong and now only has to worry about last season's terran finalists. If Zests wants to be in the talks regarding best player of the year at the end of 2015 he has to overcome his demons and he has to start right now.

For (Z)Leenock the roles seem to have been reversed. Whereas before he was at the top of the food chain, a championship contender favored to win anything he attended, a nightmare to deal with for whoever he was matched against, he is now the lone gazelle on a savanna full of hungry predators. To his credit Leenock has managed to overcome adversity. He qualified for last season's NSSL and made a good run before crashing into Maru. Despite that defeat, Leenock is still a beast in the matchup, and he faced off against Flash and defeated him to secure his spot in this group. Unfortunately, even with ZvT being his best matchup, a rematch against Maru could spell disaster for him. And despite doing very well against protoss last season, he faces a very different caliber of player in Zest. However it is noteworthy that Leenock managed to defeat Zest in Prolague recently. If Leenock is to have any sliver of a chance, he'll need to pull out all the stops and outwit everyone in his group.

Prediction:

Maru > Hurricane
Zest > Leenock
Maru > Zest
Hurricane < Leenock
Zest > Leenock

(T)Maru and (P)Zest advance.

Writers: Destructicon.
Graphics: shiroiusagi.
Editors: lichter.
Stats: Aligulac
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 23 2015 02:33 GMT
#2
3SL hype
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
April 23 2015 02:39 GMT
#3
Those are the easy picks. Leenock is looking strong, like WoL form strong.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
April 23 2015 02:42 GMT
#4
A Hurricane is coming
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
April 23 2015 02:44 GMT
#5
On April 23 2015 11:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
A Hurricane is coming

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tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
April 23 2015 02:44 GMT
#6
I just want Leenock to face Life... no matter how unlikely :p
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
April 23 2015 02:50 GMT
#7
On April 23 2015 11:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 11:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
A Hurricane is coming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpAfxxji_9w

<3, Keep on keeping on BlinD-RawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
April 23 2015 03:06 GMT
#8
On April 23 2015 11:50 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 11:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 23 2015 11:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
A Hurricane is coming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpAfxxji_9w

<3, Keep on keeping on BlinD-RawR

yeah well
+ Show Spoiler [I do what I do] +
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Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 04:06:28
April 23 2015 03:15 GMT
#9
FXO FIGHTING !

(T)Maru> (P)Hurricane
(Z)Leenock > (P)Zest
(Z)Leenock > (T)Maru
(P)Hurricane > (P)Zest
(P)Hurricane > (T)Maru

A Hurricane is coming... Leenocktopus fighting!
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
April 23 2015 03:16 GMT
#10
damn, I want all players from this group to advance

but well as long as Zest goes thru I'll be happy!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 23 2015 03:22 GMT
#11
This group should be really fun with Maru TvP and just Leenock in general.

(T)Maru 2-0 (P)Hurricane
(P)Zest 2-1 (Z)Leenock
(T)Maru 2-0 (P)Zest
(P)Hurricane 0-2 (Z)Leenock
(P)Zest 1-2 (Z)Leenock

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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 23 2015 03:28 GMT
#12
On April 23 2015 11:39 BisuDagger wrote:
Those are the easy picks. Leenock is looking strong, like WoL form strong.


Leenock's best matchup is also Zest's best matchup, it should be a good series
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 23 2015 03:34 GMT
#13
3SL? You've settled on that name after only 20 minutes of voting I see. Nice article.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 23 2015 03:42 GMT
#14
On April 23 2015 12:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
3SL? You've settled on that name after only 20 minutes of voting I see. Nice article.


uh oh, someone wanted to call it the "SSSL"!

Lame!
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Koromon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States304 Posts
April 23 2015 03:52 GMT
#15
On April 23 2015 12:15 Apoteosis wrote:
FXO FIGHTING !

(T)Maru > (P)Hurricane
(Z)Leenock > (P)Zest
(Z)Leenock > (T)Maru
(P)Zest > (T)Maru
(P)Hurricane > (P)Zest

A Hurricane is coming... Leenocktopus fighting!


Those predictions uh.. don't make a lot of sense.

why does Zest fight Maru and why does Hurricane only win 1 game to advance?

BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
April 23 2015 04:03 GMT
#16
On April 23 2015 12:42 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 12:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
3SL? You've settled on that name after only 20 minutes of voting I see. Nice article.


uh oh, someone wanted to call it the "SSSL"!

Lame!


lol sonic himself called it SC2SL so as to not confuse it with his own SSL
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Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
April 23 2015 04:07 GMT
#17
On April 23 2015 12:52 Koromon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 12:15 Apoteosis wrote:
FXO FIGHTING !

(T)Maru > (P)Hurricane
(Z)Leenock > (P)Zest
(Z)Leenock > (T)Maru
(P)Zest > (T)Maru
(P)Hurricane > (P)Zest

A Hurricane is coming... Leenocktopus fighting!


Those predictions uh.. don't make a lot of sense.

why does Zest fight Maru and why does Hurricane only win 1 game to advance?



lol my bad...

I fixed that anyways. Maru will take 1 series off of Hurricane, but he'll have his revenge in the final match.
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
NorthKoreaZH
Profile Joined June 2011
Wales24 Posts
April 23 2015 04:15 GMT
#18
Anyone in town watching it live tonight?
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
April 23 2015 04:46 GMT
#19
On April 23 2015 12:42 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 12:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
3SL? You've settled on that name after only 20 minutes of voting I see. Nice article.


uh oh, someone wanted to call it the "SSSL"!

Lame!


Well, its a SpoTV broadcasted Starleague so I dont see why SBENU SSL is not a fitting name
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 04:52:20
April 23 2015 04:51 GMT
#20
On April 23 2015 11:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 11:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
A Hurricane is coming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpAfxxji_9w







being honest though hurricane's probably going to get destroyed
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 23 2015 05:02 GMT
#21
On April 23 2015 13:46 ZiggyPG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 12:42 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 23 2015 12:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
3SL? You've settled on that name after only 20 minutes of voting I see. Nice article.


uh oh, someone wanted to call it the "SSSL"!

Lame!


Well, its a SpoTV broadcasted Starleague so I dont see why SBENU SSL is not a fitting name


3SL rolls off the tongue easier and sounds similar to the GSL. Which is fitting given the similarities and competition between the two leagues.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 23 2015 05:03 GMT
#22
Fuck that just stick to S2SL now cmon
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
April 23 2015 05:05 GMT
#23
On April 23 2015 13:46 ZiggyPG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 12:42 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 23 2015 12:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
3SL? You've settled on that name after only 20 minutes of voting I see. Nice article.


uh oh, someone wanted to call it the "SSSL"!

Lame!


Well, its a SpoTV broadcasted Starleague so I dont see why SBENU SSL is not a fitting name


because SBENU SSL is a BW league.
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wstubzi
Profile Joined February 2015
New Zealand224 Posts
April 23 2015 05:11 GMT
#24
Don't be too harsh on Hurricane Maru, at least give him a bit of hope.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 23 2015 05:17 GMT
#25
On April 23 2015 14:03 Lorning wrote:
Fuck that just stick to S2SL now cmon


What happened to you Lorning? You used to be cool.
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 05:20:35
April 23 2015 05:20 GMT
#26
On April 23 2015 14:17 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 14:03 Lorning wrote:
Fuck that just stick to S2SL now cmon


What happened to you Lorning? You used to be cool.


Myungsik left him
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 05:29:58
April 23 2015 05:28 GMT
#27


Gogo Hurricane !

No LR Thread? Seriously? I'll made one, but idk how tho
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 23 2015 05:33 GMT
#28
I can make the thread if it's not up by 9 or so
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 23 2015 05:47 GMT
#29
On April 23 2015 14:28 Apoteosis wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKc5hZxNwps

Gogo Hurricane !

No LR Thread? Seriously? I'll made one, but idk how tho

Someone really needs to make a guide on how to do it, it's not hard.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 23 2015 06:19 GMT
#30
Zest is actually underrated now. Where's Sackofwetmice at?
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 23 2015 06:30 GMT
#31
On April 23 2015 15:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Zest is actually underrated now. Where's Sackofwetmice at?


I think Zest's form is improving recently, his match with Leenock should be telling for both players
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 23 2015 06:33 GMT
#32
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 23 2015 06:42 GMT
#33
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 06:56:02
April 23 2015 06:51 GMT
#34
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title


Yeah but isn't it more proper to have the sponsor before the general name of the league lik yknow Jin Air OSL, Korean Air OSL etc? I think having the broadcaster (ongamenet, mbcgame, now spotv) in the name makes it easier to remember. Plus I'm sad none of the leagues keep track of game# from the beginning (or do they and I actually missed it?) Dunno, 3SL doesn't really seem like a name to remember :< but again, that's just me

On another note I'm pretty sure Maru will make it to the finals
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
April 23 2015 06:56 GMT
#35
On April 23 2015 15:51 ZiggyPG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title


Yeah but isn't it more proper to have the sponsor before the general name of the league lik yknow Jin Air OSL, Korean Air OSL etc? I dunno, 3SL doesn't really seem like a name to remember :<

On another note I'm pretty sure Maru will make it to the finals

Do we the fan base not in Korea care about the Korean sponsor? Yay they are sponsoring it but none of us can help them see a return buy buying there stuff unless its like Samsung or some other mega multi national corporation sponsoring the league.
I like 3SL. It sounds cool

And I'd wager on Maru winning the whole thing
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 23 2015 06:57 GMT
#36
On April 23 2015 15:51 ZiggyPG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title


Yeah but isn't it more proper to have the sponsor before the general name of the league lik yknow Jin Air OSL, Korean Air OSL etc? I think having the broadcaster (ongamenet, mbcgame, now spotv) in the name makes it easier to remember. Plus I'm sad none of the leagues keep track of game# from the beginning (or do they and I actually missed it?) Dunno, 3SL doesn't really seem like a name to remember :< but again, that's just me

On another note I'm pretty sure Maru will make it to the finals


3SL is just a tag so that articles are easy to search for in the forums. You can see in the article it says SBENU Starleague. 3SL and the common name S2SL (when there is no sponsor yet) is only used for tagging and convenience.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 23 2015 07:01 GMT
#37
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title

Should we start calling GSL SGSL then? =.=
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 23 2015 07:02 GMT
#38
On April 23 2015 16:01 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title

Should we start calling GSL SGSL then? =.=


All that matters is that AOA performs at the finals
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
April 23 2015 07:11 GMT
#39
On April 23 2015 15:57 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 15:51 ZiggyPG wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title


Yeah but isn't it more proper to have the sponsor before the general name of the league lik yknow Jin Air OSL, Korean Air OSL etc? I think having the broadcaster (ongamenet, mbcgame, now spotv) in the name makes it easier to remember. Plus I'm sad none of the leagues keep track of game# from the beginning (or do they and I actually missed it?) Dunno, 3SL doesn't really seem like a name to remember :< but again, that's just me

On another note I'm pretty sure Maru will make it to the finals


3SL is just a tag so that articles are easy to search for in the forums. You can see in the article it says SBENU Starleague. 3SL and the common name S2SL (when there is no sponsor yet) is only used for tagging and convenience.


Yeah, it is more convenient to colloquially call it 3SL, I don't mind that, my point is all the events nowadays broadcast by spotv don't seem as a longer running series but more like standalone tourneys (Note the actual name not being just starleague but also having the organiser in it, or the continuous match count). So yes, 3SL seems reasonable, you've convinced me, but when I get on liquipedia in a couple of years I personally would feel more comfortable having all the facts like the sponsor and the broadcaster info in there. But, really, that's just me :@
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EvilsPresley
Profile Joined December 2014
France132 Posts
April 23 2015 07:14 GMT
#40
Just a pair of typoes one might want to fix:
"stacked againST Hurricane"
"defeat Zest in prolEague"
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
April 23 2015 07:14 GMT
#41
On April 23 2015 16:01 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title

Should we start calling GSL SGSL then? =.=


no, the only reason there is this much confusion is because there are 2 SSLs.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 23 2015 07:15 GMT
#42
On April 23 2015 16:11 ZiggyPG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 15:57 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:51 ZiggyPG wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title


Yeah but isn't it more proper to have the sponsor before the general name of the league lik yknow Jin Air OSL, Korean Air OSL etc? I think having the broadcaster (ongamenet, mbcgame, now spotv) in the name makes it easier to remember. Plus I'm sad none of the leagues keep track of game# from the beginning (or do they and I actually missed it?) Dunno, 3SL doesn't really seem like a name to remember :< but again, that's just me

On another note I'm pretty sure Maru will make it to the finals


3SL is just a tag so that articles are easy to search for in the forums. You can see in the article it says SBENU Starleague. 3SL and the common name S2SL (when there is no sponsor yet) is only used for tagging and convenience.


Yeah, it is more convenient to colloquially call it 3SL, I don't mind that, my point is all the events nowadays broadcast by spotv don't seem as a longer running series but more like standalone tourneys (Note the actual name not being just starleague but also having the organiser in it, or the continuous match count). So yes, 3SL seems reasonable, you've convinced me, but when I get on liquipedia in a couple of years I personally would feel more comfortable having all the facts like the sponsor and the broadcaster info in there. But, really, that's just me :@


The sponsor is included in the wiki page

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_StarCraft_II_StarLeague_Season_1

Sponsor: Naver

The news is new so someone hasn't updated the Season 2 wiki page yet
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 23 2015 07:17 GMT
#43
On April 23 2015 16:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 16:01 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title

Should we start calling GSL SGSL then? =.=


no, the only reason there is this much confusion is because there are 2 SSLs.

Then call this one S2SL and stick to it
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munch
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Mute City2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 07:18:36
April 23 2015 07:18 GMT
#44
On April 23 2015 16:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 16:01 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title

Should we start calling GSL SGSL then? =.=


no, the only reason there is this much confusion is because there are 2 SSLs.


Let's face it though, honestly; who's actually going to get confused between the two? In context it's going to be obvious after the briefest of looks
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
April 23 2015 07:18 GMT
#45
I agree, theres no reason to rep the sponsor in a tag, tags are supposed to be small.
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
April 23 2015 07:26 GMT
#46


The sponsor is included in the wiki page

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_StarCraft_II_StarLeague_Season_1

Sponsor: Naver

The news is new so someone hasn't updated the Season 2 wiki page yet


Its the broadcaster not included in the full or abbreviated name that makes me sad, following the fashion of osl and msl :<

And the match count would be real cool to see nevertheless :D anyway I hope the finals maybe start being played out in more interesting locations than just the Nexon arena or the gomexp studio for the matter of gsl
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 08:02:28
April 23 2015 08:01 GMT
#47
On April 23 2015 16:26 ZiggyPG wrote:
Show nested quote +


The sponsor is included in the wiki page

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_StarCraft_II_StarLeague_Season_1

Sponsor: Naver

The news is new so someone hasn't updated the Season 2 wiki page yet


Its the broadcaster not included in the full or abbreviated name that makes me sad, following the fashion of osl and msl :<

And the match count would be real cool to see nevertheless :D anyway I hope the finals maybe start being played out in more interesting locations than just the Nexon arena or the gomexp studio for the matter of gsl

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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
April 23 2015 08:33 GMT
#48
Cynism much appreciated, thank you
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PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
April 23 2015 09:00 GMT
#49
On April 23 2015 11:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 11:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
A Hurricane is coming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpAfxxji_9w

ROFL

Needs to be his pl/sl song :D
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
April 23 2015 12:02 GMT
#50
What the fuck is the 3SL
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
April 23 2015 12:04 GMT
#51
On April 23 2015 21:02 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
What the fuck is the 3SL

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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 12:46:38
April 23 2015 12:42 GMT
#52
On April 23 2015 16:17 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 16:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:01 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title

Should we start calling GSL SGSL then? =.=


no, the only reason there is this much confusion is because there are 2 SSLs.

Then call this one S2SL and stick to it


Yes please! There is not even a need to shorten Sbenu. It's not SGSL either right?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
April 23 2015 12:45 GMT
#53
On April 23 2015 21:42 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 16:17 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:01 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title

Should we start calling GSL SGSL then? =.=


no, the only reason there is this much confusion is because there are 2 SSLs.

Then call this one S2SL and stick to it


Yes please! There is not even a need to shorten Senbu. It's not SGSL either right?

The first season was NSSL, Naver being the sponsor and in the title. GSL stays GSL.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
April 23 2015 12:47 GMT
#54
On April 23 2015 21:42 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 16:17 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:01 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title

Should we start calling GSL SGSL then? =.=


no, the only reason there is this much confusion is because there are 2 SSLs.

Then call this one S2SL and stick to it


Yes please! There is not even a need to shorten Senbu. It's not SGSL either right?

Really, that is unacceptable
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 23 2015 12:47 GMT
#55
On April 23 2015 21:45 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 21:42 Musicus wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:17 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:01 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title

Should we start calling GSL SGSL then? =.=


no, the only reason there is this much confusion is because there are 2 SSLs.

Then call this one S2SL and stick to it


Yes please! There is not even a need to shorten Senbu. It's not SGSL either right?

The first season was NSSL, Naver being the sponsor and in the title. GSL stays GSL.


Well now that we know that sponsors are likely to change between seasons, we should stick with S2SL.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 23 2015 12:49 GMT
#56
On April 23 2015 21:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 21:42 Musicus wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:17 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:01 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title

Should we start calling GSL SGSL then? =.=


no, the only reason there is this much confusion is because there are 2 SSLs.

Then call this one S2SL and stick to it


Yes please! There is not even a need to shorten Senbu. It's not SGSL either right?

Really, that is unacceptable


lol already fixed it before your comment was posted :D
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
The_Masked_Shrimp
Profile Joined February 2012
425 Posts
April 23 2015 13:28 GMT
#57
That serious argument about a tag is hilarious xD
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
April 23 2015 13:45 GMT
#58
On April 23 2015 21:49 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 21:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
On April 23 2015 21:42 Musicus wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:17 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:01 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title

Should we start calling GSL SGSL then? =.=


no, the only reason there is this much confusion is because there are 2 SSLs.

Then call this one S2SL and stick to it


Yes please! There is not even a need to shorten Senbu. It's not SGSL either right?

Really, that is unacceptable


lol already fixed it before your comment was posted :D

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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
April 23 2015 14:02 GMT
#59
On April 23 2015 21:47 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 21:45 Elentos wrote:
On April 23 2015 21:42 Musicus wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:17 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 23 2015 16:01 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:42 lichter wrote:
On April 23 2015 15:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Rofl 3SL. Why not S2SL?


sbenu sc2 starleague

they like having the sponsor recognized in the title

Should we start calling GSL SGSL then? =.=


no, the only reason there is this much confusion is because there are 2 SSLs.

Then call this one S2SL and stick to it


Yes please! There is not even a need to shorten Senbu. It's not SGSL either right?

The first season was NSSL, Naver being the sponsor and in the title. GSL stays GSL.


Well now that we know that sponsors are likely to change between seasons, we should stick with S2SL.


Or just ssl? I mean yeah that can be taken for brood war, but any bit of context would suffice. Or having the ''2" in the full name and keep it out of the abbreviation? It would be unnecessary to suddenly make GSL a GS2L cause every1 anyways knows whats it bout

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SC2Towelie
Profile Joined July 2014
United States561 Posts
April 23 2015 14:16 GMT
#60
Are we seriously calling it 3SL? What happens if the sponsor changes next season, we have to change the name again?... S2SL seemed fine to me
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
April 23 2015 14:18 GMT
#61
On April 23 2015 23:16 SC2Towelie wrote:
Are we seriously calling it 3SL? What happens if the sponsor changes next season, we have to change the name again?... S2SL seemed fine to me

Apparently. First season was NSSL, after all. Keepin' it fresh.
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
April 23 2015 14:24 GMT
#62
3SL --> SSSL
2SL --> SSL
S2SL --> SSSL --> 3SL

Trust me, this is how it works. I'm currently working on my phd thesis "On the arithmetic of numbers in titles".

And ofc it means "Style Start Sbenu League", fyi.
maru G5L pls
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 23 2015 14:37 GMT
#63
Rooting for Mari & Hurricane!
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 23 2015 14:37 GMT
#64
On April 23 2015 23:37 Skynx wrote:
Rooting for Mari & Hurricane!


You are a bit late friend, games were played earlier today .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 16:46:56
April 23 2015 16:46 GMT
#65
Ha ha games already played ! Wp Zest & Maru.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
April 23 2015 18:53 GMT
#66
The lambs were slaughtered
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wstubzi
Profile Joined February 2015
New Zealand224 Posts
April 23 2015 22:45 GMT
#67
And Maru rekts again...
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 23 2015 23:29 GMT
#68
On April 23 2015 14:17 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 14:03 Lorning wrote:
Fuck that just stick to S2SL now cmon


What happened to you Lorning? You used to be cool.

I'ms till too school for cool
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
April 23 2015 23:55 GMT
#69
On April 24 2015 08:29 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 14:17 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 23 2015 14:03 Lorning wrote:
Fuck that just stick to S2SL now cmon


What happened to you Lorning? You used to be cool.

I'ms till too school for cool

...wait
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 24 2015 00:07 GMT
#70
On April 24 2015 08:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 08:29 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 14:17 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 23 2015 14:03 Lorning wrote:
Fuck that just stick to S2SL now cmon


What happened to you Lorning? You used to be cool.

I'ms till too school for cool

...wait

Still waiting
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
April 24 2015 19:04 GMT
#71
On April 24 2015 09:07 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 08:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
On April 24 2015 08:29 Lorning wrote:
On April 23 2015 14:17 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 23 2015 14:03 Lorning wrote:
Fuck that just stick to S2SL now cmon


What happened to you Lorning? You used to be cool.

I'ms till too school for cool

...wait

Still waiting

"I'ms till"? That is very distracting
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