EPTPinnacle voids ByuL vs MarineKing Match - Page 50
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Swoopae
Australia339 Posts
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Disarmed
Austria721 Posts
this is really insightful. I had no idea that there are times where you are sure to make a profit from betting on the less favourable player in a boX series. but does that mean....if the odds were at 11-1 when the line was taken down, wouldnt it be more reasonable to bet on MK? Like... shouldnt there logically be a massive counter-trend to bet on Mk as soon as the odds become that absurd? (aka as soon as there were the huge amounts dumped on Byul?) Shouldnt everybody immediately jump on MK? (nvm if its match fixed or not) | ||
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Luolis
Finland7115 Posts
On March 27 2015 16:19 Swoopae wrote: Actually, Huk, Kane and Welmu all know what it is like to be a progamer on TV and they've all gone on the record as saying it's likely in their opinions that the match was fixed. From memory Rekrul was an active top level SC1 pro as well. Yes, it's possible there's another plausible explanation but we haven't heard it yet if it exists Can you tell me, when have Kane and Welmu played as pros on tv :D | ||
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Disarmed
Austria721 Posts
On March 27 2015 16:47 Luolis wrote: Can you tell me, when have Kane and Welmu played as pros on tv :D i suppose he meant "on TV" as in "broadcasted" | ||
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bypLy
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Luolis
Finland7115 Posts
On March 27 2015 16:48 Disarmed wrote: i suppose he meant "on TV" as in "broadcasted" Fair enuff ^__^ | ||
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Deleted User 26513
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edit: MarineKing is not in the PL line-ups for the next week. I guess KeSPA dealt with it internally. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On March 27 2015 17:00 Pr0wler wrote:edit: MarineKing is not in the PL line-ups for the next week. I guess KeSPA dealt with it internally. Not necessarily, even if it's somehow proven the game wasn't fixed would you as Choya put out MarineKing after a performance like that? | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
On March 27 2015 17:21 showstealer1829 wrote: Not necessarily, even if it's somehow proven the game wasn't fixed would you as Choya put out MarineKing after a performance like that? The guy is devastated, at this point it would be even better for him if he was guilty, cause being innocent, playing bad AND being the target of witch hunt must not be easy to bear. Hope staff and friends support him, else his career is basically over. | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
On March 27 2015 16:47 Luolis wrote: Can you tell me, when have Kane and Welmu played as pros on tv :D I think they totally gone out of their bounds, because if shitty play is proof of macth throwing, Welmu, Kane and Huk must have made themselves all of mafia-money these last 4 years. How can't a so-called proplayer see the all teh red lights and refrain posting that kind of crap is beyond my understanding... | ||
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Luolis
Finland7115 Posts
On March 27 2015 17:34 Gwavajuice wrote: I think they totally gone out of their bounds, because if shitty play is proof of macth throwing, Welmu, Kane and Huk must have made themselves all of mafia-money these last 4 years. How can't a so-called proplayer see the all teh red lights and refrain posting that kind of crap is beyond my understanding... Hmm, well Welmus analyzing of the game was pretty good, and i think a player of his caliber can see the unuually big flaws in Marinekings game. Just sayin. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On March 27 2015 17:34 Gwavajuice wrote: I think they totally gone out of their bounds, because if shitty play is proof of macth throwing, Welmu, Kane and Huk must have made themselves all of mafia-money these last 4 years. How can't a so-called proplayer see the all teh red lights and refrain posting that kind of crap is beyond my understanding... Yes. I'm sorry, I love Welmu and HuK and Kane, but you just can't judge that with certainty with only the broadcast. If we had the replay, now their input would be of another interest. edit : still no annoncement from MVP? Well I guess it's a soon(tm) that they meant d: | ||
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Penev
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On March 27 2015 16:47 Disarmed wrote: Thanks Swoopae, this is really insightful. I had no idea that there are times where you are sure to make a profit from betting on the less favourable player in a boX series. but does that mean....if the odds were at 11-1 when the line was taken down, wouldnt it be more reasonable to bet on MK? Like... shouldnt there logically be a massive counter-trend to bet on Mk as soon as the odds become that absurd? (aka as soon as there were the huge amounts dumped on Byul?) Shouldnt everybody immediately jump on MK? (nvm if its match fixed or not) That's why the line movement is so absurd, because it is being moved that far despite people who should normally behave by putting money on MK. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On March 27 2015 17:56 Penev wrote: Shh, everybody stay real quit and all of this will just go away.. Nah, this time we need to at least get an official statement from KeSPA instead of plain ignorance from them. And not just about MarineKing, but about the others as well. | ||
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Penev
28483 Posts
On March 27 2015 18:01 OtherWorld wrote: Nah, this time we need to at least get an official statement from KeSPA instead of plain ignorance from them. And not just about MarineKing, but about the others as well. I know it's still morning but Otherworld pls  | ||
TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On March 27 2015 17:54 OtherWorld wrote: Yes. I'm sorry, I love Welmu and HuK and Kane, but you just can't judge that with certainty with only the broadcast. If we had the replay, now their input would be of another interest. edit : still no annoncement from MVP? Well I guess it's a soon(tm) that they meant d: No announcement from MK or MVP could also mean, for example, that Kespa said that nobody shoud say anything for now until Kespa made a statement regarding the accusations. MVP is a Kespa team right ? | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On March 27 2015 18:08 TheNewEra wrote: No announcement from MK or MVP could also mean, for example, that Kespa said that nobody shoud say anything for now until Kespa made a statement regarding the accusations. MVP is a Kespa team right ? Hmm it could, afaik they joined KeSPA with the other ex-eSF teams (bar StarTale) when eSF disbanded. | ||
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Penev
28483 Posts
On March 27 2015 16:19 Swoopae wrote: Actually, Huk, Kane and Welmu all know what it is like to be a progamer on TV and they've all gone on the record as saying it's likely in their opinions that the match was fixed. From memory Rekrul was an active top level SC1 pro as well. Yes, it's possible there's another plausible explanation but we haven't heard it yet if it exists Yeah but, and I'm not telling you because I know your position on this, what other explanation of people knowing the outcome of a game (which the line movements indicate) can there be than match fixing? I, realistically, can't think of even 1.. Someone hacking Pinnacle? :-S | ||
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maGicc
Finland134 Posts
On March 27 2015 17:00 Pr0wler wrote: Thank God, the justice system doesn't work like that. A couple of "relevant" people think that the match is fixed, so it has to be fixed... No other explanation exist. Case closed. At this point noone is capable of providing the reasonable counter explanation that would stand any sort of rational analysis. | ||
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