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GSL Code A Season 2 matchups announced

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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 08:24:48
March 24 2015 07:52 GMT
#1
Source: playxp

GOMeXP have announced the matchups for Code A Season 2. Unlike previous iterations of Code A, this one will follow WCS' format with one best of 5 determining who will advance to Code S.

Unsure about how seeding was done.

Schedule

April 1: Group A
(T)YoDa vs (Z)DongRaeGu
(P)Seed vs (Z)soO
(T)TaeJa vs (T)Sorry

April 2: Group B
(T)Hack vs (T)Bbyong
(P)YongHwa vs (Z)ByuL
(P)Panic vs (P)Trap

April 3: Group C
(T)Heart vs (P)sOs
(Z)PenguiN vs (Z)Symbol
(P)First vs (P)MyuNgSiK

April 8: Group D
(P)Dear vs (Z)RagnaroK
(T)Bomber vs (Z)Shine
(P)San vs (Z)Sacsri

April 9: Group E
(T)Dream vs (T)SuperNova
(T)Maru vs (P)Billowy
(P)Rain vs (T)Cure

April 10: Group F
(Z)Dark vs (T)Ryung
(T)GuMiho vs (Z)Impact
(P)Super vs (T)Flash

April 15: Group G
(T)FanTaSy vs (P)Pigbaby
(P)Terminator vs (P)HerO
(Z)Soulkey vs (P)Creator

April 17: Group H
(T)MarineKing vs (P)Patience
(Z)Curious vs (T)BrAvO
(P)MC vs (P)Trust


The matches will start at 18:30 KST.

2015 GSL Season 2 Map Pool

King Sejong Station
Merry Go Round
Overgrowth
Deadwing
Iron Fortress
Vaani Research Station
Expedition Lost
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
March 24 2015 07:46 GMT
#2
Link the source bro.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 24 2015 07:46 GMT
#3
not done bro
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 24 2015 07:48 GMT
#4
fuck now they're using the shitty challenger format :\
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 24 2015 07:51 GMT
#5
YoDa and MyuNgSiK have a decent chance, although hard

Creator vs Soulkey
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 24 2015 07:55 GMT
#6
shine vs bomber looks delicious
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
March 24 2015 07:56 GMT
#7
On March 24 2015 16:46 lichter wrote:
not done bro

Don't post unless you're done first bro.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 24 2015 07:56 GMT
#8
finally!

I hate that GOM is copying the NSSL now. Makes it less of a distinct league and it just feels more volatile than having groups.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18401 Posts
March 24 2015 07:59 GMT
#9
Rain vs Cure wow
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
March 24 2015 07:59 GMT
#10
Apparently SuperNova is now on a team called ROOTS Gaming.
And DRG, GuMiho, and Super are on a team called Invasion eSports.

Really looking forward to see if this new format is going to work out or not. Excited for the matches!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 08:02:51
March 24 2015 08:01 GMT
#11
On March 24 2015 16:56 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 16:46 lichter wrote:
not done bro

Don't post unless you're done first bro.

fucking mod abuse

MKP, Maru gogo Code S please
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FYRE
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
New Zealand314 Posts
March 24 2015 08:06 GMT
#12
What a brutal format. Imagine losing 2-3 and knowing you're going to have to play in ANOTHER Code A qualifier just to get another shot at a bo5.
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
March 24 2015 08:06 GMT
#13
Mk didn't draw a Terran
All the fanboys are saved
$O$ | soO
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5586 Posts
March 24 2015 08:07 GMT
#14
Whyyyyy, group play is so much more fun!
don't wall off against random
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 24 2015 08:07 GMT
#15
No groups sucks so hard -_-.
Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
March 24 2015 08:09 GMT
#16
Some pretty sick matches here, Yoda / DRG, Yonghwa / Byul, Rain / Cure, ect. I think the winner of GuMiHo / Impact is going to be a darkhorse contender for the tile.
In Somnis Veritas
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 08:12:06
March 24 2015 08:10 GMT
#17
A
+ Show Spoiler +
(T)YoDa 0-3 (Z)DRG
(P)Seed 2-3 (Z)soO
(T)TaeJa 3-1 (T)Sorry

B
+ Show Spoiler +
(T)Hack 2-3 (T)Bbyong
(P)YongHwa 0-3 (Z)ByuL
(P)Panic 0-3 (P)Trap

C
+ Show Spoiler +
(T)Heart 0-3 (P)sOs
(Z)PenguiN 1-3 (Z)Symbol
(P)First 3-1 (P)MyuNgSiK


D
+ Show Spoiler +
(P)Dear 3-0 (Z)RagnaroK
(T)Bomber 3-1 (Z)Shine
(P)San 3-2 (Z)Sacsri

E
+ Show Spoiler +
(T)Dream 2-3 (T)SuperNova
(T)Maru 3-0 (P)Billowy
(P)Rain 1-3 (T)Cure

F
+ Show Spoiler +
(Z)Dark 3-0 (T)Ryung
(T)GuMiho 3-1 (Z)Impact
(P)Super 2-3 (T)Flash


G
+ Show Spoiler +
(T)FanTaSy 3-1 (P)Pigbaby
(P)Terminator 3-1 (P)Hero
(Z)Soulkey 3-0 (P)Creator


H
+ Show Spoiler +
(T)MarineKing 3-1 (P)Patience
(Z)Curious 3-1 (T)BrAvO
(P)MC 3-0 (P)Trust
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
March 24 2015 08:13 GMT
#18
really don't like this format. I miss the old bracket + up and downs format
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 08:13:16
March 24 2015 08:13 GMT
#19
a lot of very good games, still old Map Pool
Vasacast always in my <3
Zephyp
Profile Joined April 2013
238 Posts
March 24 2015 08:13 GMT
#20
Why are they using Iron Fortress, the map nobody plays?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 24 2015 08:16 GMT
#21
oh god, I just noticed the map pool. Aside from Iron Fortress (which is barely played and seems okay) I can't take these fucking things anymore xD

I'm even tired of Sejong. It's going the way of Daybreak, what with being a good map that's totally worn out its welcome.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
CodeskyE
Profile Joined January 2011
United States777 Posts
March 24 2015 08:16 GMT
#22
MarineKing in a TvP, i like his chances.

gogo MarineKing fighting~
Maxilicious
Profile Joined May 2011
221 Posts
March 24 2015 08:19 GMT
#23
Iron Fortress as one of the five maps.

Why?
http://terrancraft.com/
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 24 2015 08:20 GMT
#24
On March 24 2015 17:19 Maxilicious wrote:
Iron Fortress as one of the five maps.

Why?


They feel bad for the mapper after the last season? xD
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
March 24 2015 08:23 GMT
#25
Curious to see how the my old zerg stars DRG and Symbol will perform.

Rain vs Cure really? I guess that's the moment of his career when Rain will have to face the great challenge that'll show us if he's able to come back or not...

Taeja will have wether an easy one if he's in physically ok and motivated, or a terrible one if he's not...
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
March 24 2015 08:26 GMT
#26
On March 24 2015 17:20 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 17:19 Maxilicious wrote:
Iron Fortress as one of the five maps.

Why?


They feel bad for the mapper after the last season? xD


I think code A is supposed to have the same map pool than last code S, as code A is still a season one tournament afaik. As for the map itself, we've seen too few of it to judge it, it may not be as bad as everyone seems to think...
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 24 2015 08:33 GMT
#27
Seed gon knock soO back to Code B.
MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
March 24 2015 08:34 GMT
#28
No Zest? Does this mean he's in Code B currently?
The world wants to be deceived
extinctosaurus
Profile Joined April 2014
101 Posts
March 24 2015 08:36 GMT
#29
I really dislike this format Anybody know why it was changed?

Some of the matchups make me sad since I want both players to advance. But I guess that would also happen in groups, anyway.

That Bomber vs Shine... :O
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
March 24 2015 08:38 GMT
#30
Shine, don`t be evil for once.
The Bomber boy
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 24 2015 08:39 GMT
#31
bomber isnt good enough for shine to upset
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Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
March 24 2015 08:40 GMT
#32
One bo5 really sucks for challenger/code A. Sad they copied it.
Team Liquid
EvilsPresley
Profile Joined December 2014
France132 Posts
March 24 2015 08:42 GMT
#33
On March 24 2015 17:34 MoonyD wrote:
No Zest? Does this mean he's in Code B currently?

He was eliminated by TANGTANG in qualifier (or code B if you want). See Group 2 bracket here :
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_2/Qualifier
Rogue | Maru
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 24 2015 08:44 GMT
#34
Decent matchup for GuMiho, hope Impact chokes again
Super vs Flash will be interesting too
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 24 2015 08:44 GMT
#35
On March 24 2015 17:40 Liquid`Ret wrote:
One bo5 really sucks for challenger/code A. Sad they copied it.


i'm not sure why they copied it considering the amount of games for the old format and this format is roughly the same. assuming even distribution between 3-0/3-1/3-2, that's an average of 4 games x 3 matches = 12. assuming the same thing for groups (equal chance for 2-0/2-1) then it's 2.5 games x 5 matches = 12.5 games
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
March 24 2015 08:49 GMT
#36
On March 24 2015 17:39 lichter wrote:
bomber isnt good enough for shine to upset

HA HA screw you lichter.

how do you feel about suno vs dream
The Bomber boy
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
March 24 2015 08:54 GMT
#37
This Bo5 shit is bullshit. Congrats to Billowy for getting Maru round 1!
I love hellbats
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
March 24 2015 08:55 GMT
#38
Ryung is going to be eaten alive.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
March 24 2015 08:57 GMT
#39
Aw man this format TT
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
sparklewolf
Profile Joined August 2014
65 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 08:58:48
March 24 2015 08:58 GMT
#40
i like the bo5 change.....

although i don't watch wcs so I guess any flaws in the format I wouldn't have been confronted with yet

ice0cream
Profile Joined December 2014
18 Posts
March 24 2015 08:58 GMT
#41
is this casted perhaps?
sparklewolf
Profile Joined August 2014
65 Posts
March 24 2015 08:59 GMT
#42
considering 3 games a day I would imagine yes they will be casted
AKAvg
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil298 Posts
March 24 2015 09:00 GMT
#43
On March 24 2015 16:48 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
fuck now they're using the shitty challenger format :\


So true.
Was always found of groups in challenger and Code A
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
March 24 2015 09:08 GMT
#44
On March 24 2015 16:59 Seeker wrote:
Apparently SuperNova is now on a team called ROOTS Gaming.


root gaming.

as in ROOTCatz, ROOterdam, former home of destiny, qxc, puck, major, vibe, slush, kane, sheth, so many others.. you speak of it as if you don't know it..

not impressed seeker, not impressed.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
March 24 2015 09:08 GMT
#45
Wow these matchups are crazy, going to be really fun watching this.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
-RusH
Profile Joined June 2012
United States240 Posts
March 24 2015 09:11 GMT
#46
Really sad about SuNo vs Dream.. I don't think Dream will get by SuNo's mech. It would be a shame to not see Dream in Code S.
Life..
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
March 24 2015 09:16 GMT
#47
On March 24 2015 18:08 darkscream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 16:59 Seeker wrote:
Apparently SuperNova is now on a team called ROOTS Gaming.


root gaming.

as in ROOTCatz, ROOterdam, former home of destiny, qxc, puck, major, vibe, slush, kane, sheth, so many others.. you speak of it as if you don't know it..

not impressed seeker, not impressed.


GOM's website has SuNo's team listed as "ROOTS Gaming."
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
caneras
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
433 Posts
March 24 2015 09:23 GMT
#48
MarineKing vs Patience seems like it's going to be either really entertaining or really bad.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
March 24 2015 09:26 GMT
#49
Not a good draw for Axiom Impact might be able to be Gumi on his best though
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ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
March 24 2015 09:27 GMT
#50
oh hay flash is playing on my birthday, hopefully he wins :>
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 09:31:32
March 24 2015 09:28 GMT
#51
Some good matches, although I'm not super hyped by the format.

Guys, the Gom youtube channel apparently uploaded all season 1 Ro32 Vods in the past 2 hours <.<
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 09:32:49
March 24 2015 09:29 GMT
#52
DongRaeGu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES. Please come back into Code S, where you belong.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Ja.Y.
Profile Joined February 2015
United States253 Posts
March 24 2015 09:29 GMT
#53
I'm hoping to see some epic match ups and upsets! And for the "veteran" SC2 players to rise above the challenge and get back into Code S
MMA will reign supreme once again // MaSa is gawd
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany534 Posts
March 24 2015 09:35 GMT
#54
Why would they copy the terrible system of 1 bo5? Rain vs. Cure is a very good example why this sucks; that match could have easily been a ro8 Code S match but now one of those high caliber players does not even qualify for Code S.
Code A + Up&Downs was such an awesome format
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
March 24 2015 09:38 GMT
#55
Ugh, Challenger Format? T_T
Group Format seems so much better.
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lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
March 24 2015 10:05 GMT
#56
This format is just awful
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
March 24 2015 10:07 GMT
#57
Oh wow, Axiom got really screwed on there match ups
I hope Ryung can at least take a map off Dark
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
March 24 2015 10:19 GMT
#58
was the change to format ever announced prior to this? seems really random. maybe they wanted to cut down on game play time? we'll see how this goes
terrible, terrible, damage
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
March 24 2015 11:02 GMT
#59
I like BO5 format! Instant death to the loser!
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
March 24 2015 11:06 GMT
#60
On March 24 2015 18:11 -RusH wrote:
Really sad about SuNo vs Dream.. I don't think Dream will get by SuNo's mech. It would be a shame to not see Dream in Code S.


Lol. Sure he will.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
March 24 2015 11:10 GMT
#61
Axiom's draws...yikes.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
March 24 2015 11:38 GMT
#62
On March 24 2015 18:16 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 18:08 darkscream wrote:
On March 24 2015 16:59 Seeker wrote:
Apparently SuperNova is now on a team called ROOTS Gaming.


root gaming.

as in ROOTCatz, ROOterdam, former home of destiny, qxc, puck, major, vibe, slush, kane, sheth, so many others.. you speak of it as if you don't know it..

not impressed seeker, not impressed.


GOM's website has SuNo's team listed as "ROOTS Gaming."


If you scroll down where the matchups are shown, SuperNova has the ROOT gaming logo next to his name. It's just a typo in the group listing.
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
March 24 2015 11:40 GMT
#63
How are these matches picked?
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 24 2015 11:46 GMT
#64
Hahaha GOM ruining a whole season for 24 progamers by using the most terrible system possible for challenger, grats
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 24 2015 11:55 GMT
#65
sooo taeja is not retiring?
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
CountZero71
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany89 Posts
March 24 2015 12:01 GMT
#66
Especially considering the randomness in some mirrow matchups this format isn't ideal. Moar tension though...
You cannot kill what doesn't die...
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
March 24 2015 12:02 GMT
#67
sOs should play on 1st of April and execute the most awesome/confusing/absurd/trollish builds
sOs TY PartinG
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 24 2015 12:08 GMT
#68
Have a good feeling for Fantasy and Flash. Also, DRG should be able to win against YoDa.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
March 24 2015 12:10 GMT
#69
Yoda vs DRG,YongHwa vs ByuL,Dark vs Ryung,Soulkey vs Creator looking good.
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 24 2015 12:14 GMT
#70
Tough draw for dream. Shame either Cure or Rain can't make it. Both of them are Code S level (maybe rain not so much as of recently).
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 24 2015 12:14 GMT
#71
On March 24 2015 20:46 OtherWorld wrote:
Hahaha GOM ruining a whole season for 24 progamers by using the most terrible system possible for challenger, grats

The old format would also have ruined the season for 24 progamers, they'd just have gotten a 2nd chance, but the amount of people would have been the same. Really, it might be bad for the viewers since there are some games where fan favourites play each other.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 24 2015 12:15 GMT
#72
This format just sucks ~_~
At least, sOs and soO should advance
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 24 2015 12:18 GMT
#73
On March 24 2015 21:14 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 20:46 OtherWorld wrote:
Hahaha GOM ruining a whole season for 24 progamers by using the most terrible system possible for challenger, grats

The old format would also have ruined the season for 24 progamers, they'd just have gotten a 2nd chance, but the amount of people would have been the same. Really, it might be bad for the viewers since there are some games where fan favourites play each other.

Eliminating 24 players through a, if not perfectly fair, at least relatively fair, system =/= eliminating 24 players through a way less fair system
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
March 24 2015 12:23 GMT
#74
Doable for HerO!
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KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
March 24 2015 12:24 GMT
#75
I dislike this format a little.

That being said the Jin Air boys all have an excellent shot at being in Code S this season, they all got pretty nice matches. Pigbaby probably has the hardest cause Fantasy has been in good form recently.

Axiom boys on the other hand got tough matches. Impact has a good chance against Gumiho I reckon, but Heart and Ryung have to face sOs and Dark, those aren't easy opponents at all. Patience has a good chance of getting Code S, MarineKing has been very underwhelming recently and Patience has been on a resurgence :D
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2102 Posts
March 24 2015 12:32 GMT
#76
Anticipated matches:
Taeja vs Sorry
Yonghwa vs Byul
Dream vs Supernova
Rain vs Cure
Curious vs Bravo

A real bummer with Cure vs Rain. Both players are obviously worthy of Code S. I personally prefer group format for Code A, and am a bit upset they went with the single elimination Bo5.
SoulmaN__
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany80 Posts
March 24 2015 12:39 GMT
#77
Disappointed in the mappool, excited about soO going to the finals again!
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Eladamri
Profile Joined September 2014
Norway7 Posts
March 24 2015 12:41 GMT
#78
Anyone know if these matches are played online or offline? And if offline, at what venue? I'll be in Seoul in that period of time, and it would be awesome to catch a match or two!
Ronok1307
Profile Joined August 2012
Bangladesh58 Posts
March 24 2015 12:47 GMT
#79
I dislike the challenger format, but i guess this gives a global format thingy where both WCS and GSL have the same format. Cheering for the Samsung and Axiom boys. And also DRG!!!
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
March 24 2015 12:49 GMT
#80
Rain vs Cure on this format nooooooooooo
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
March 24 2015 12:54 GMT
#81
DongRaeGu noooooooooo
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caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
March 24 2015 12:56 GMT
#82
Really weak format. I can't imagine the meeting where someone suggested it and people in majority agreed to use it? Bizare.
why?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 24 2015 13:06 GMT
#83
On March 24 2015 21:56 caznitch wrote:
Really weak format. I can't imagine the meeting where someone suggested it and people in majority agreed to use it? Bizare.

"Guys, do you want to have Code A take less time and still get equal money out of it? Yes? These are the WCS Challenger rules, we could totez use them." Done.
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
March 24 2015 13:12 GMT
#84
actually, I'm excited to see how this plays out.

I would have preferred groups like normal Code A, but I'll give this a chance.
Hopefully, soO makes it through, goes to the finals and looses to a Protoss. That hasn't happened in a while...
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
March 24 2015 13:22 GMT
#85
Terrible format, but somewhat good to see some of the players in bo5
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 24 2015 13:37 GMT
#86
On March 24 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 21:56 caznitch wrote:
Really weak format. I can't imagine the meeting where someone suggested it and people in majority agreed to use it? Bizare.

"Guys, do you want to have Code A take less time and still get equal money out of it? Yes? These are the WCS Challenger rules, we could totez use them." Done.


this format does not take a significantly shorter amount of time
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 24 2015 13:41 GMT
#87
On March 24 2015 22:37 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 21:56 caznitch wrote:
Really weak format. I can't imagine the meeting where someone suggested it and people in majority agreed to use it? Bizare.

"Guys, do you want to have Code A take less time and still get equal money out of it? Yes? These are the WCS Challenger rules, we could totez use them." Done.


this format does not take a significantly shorter amount of time

group stage: 10-15 games for 2 players to advance
bo5: 6-10 games for 2 players to advance

I think that's significant tbh
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
March 24 2015 13:50 GMT
#88
Group stage is funky anyway since you can have a lot of rematches. This is more fairer and quicker.

As of right now, only Dark, Trap, and Maru stick out for me. gogogo
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 24 2015 13:52 GMT
#89
On March 24 2015 22:37 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 21:56 caznitch wrote:
Really weak format. I can't imagine the meeting where someone suggested it and people in majority agreed to use it? Bizare.

"Guys, do you want to have Code A take less time and still get equal money out of it? Yes? These are the WCS Challenger rules, we could totez use them." Done.


this format does not take a significantly shorter amount of time

At most, this format plays 120 maps for 24 players to advance (lowest = 72). The previous format plays at least 120 and up to 180 maps. Pretty clear difference in total.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 24 2015 13:56 GMT
#90
meh you're right i forgot code a used to go all the way to group L
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IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
March 24 2015 14:01 GMT
#91
No Jaedong??

I hope Ryung make it trough! He is in my opinion a sort of household name within GSL Terrans. So sad he haven't been in it in a while!
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Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
March 24 2015 14:05 GMT
#92
Heart vs. sOs: That's a great first opponent for Heart.

Dark vs. Ryung: I'd say 50-50, depending on whatever Ryung does. I fear he's still a little too inconsistent.

GuMiho vs. Impact: Wait, is this a game for Code S or another Olimoleague semifinals playoff?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 24 2015 14:12 GMT
#93
i dont like the 1 bo5 matchup. would rather see groups
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
March 24 2015 14:21 GMT
#94
On March 24 2015 23:01 IcookTacos wrote:
No Jaedong??


Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 24 2015 14:24 GMT
#95
On March 24 2015 23:21 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:01 IcookTacos wrote:
No Jaedong??


Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.

By qualifying? d:
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 24 2015 14:24 GMT
#96
God I hate this format. There basically is no Code A then, this isn't a tournament it's challenger. RIP Code A
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
March 24 2015 14:29 GMT
#97
On March 24 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:21 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:01 IcookTacos wrote:
No Jaedong??


Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.

By qualifying? d:

Exactly. How?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 24 2015 14:30 GMT
#98
On March 24 2015 23:29 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:21 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:01 IcookTacos wrote:
No Jaedong??


Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.

By qualifying? d:

Exactly. How?

getting a visa and permission to play in the foreign wcs maybe
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 24 2015 14:31 GMT
#99
On March 24 2015 23:29 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:21 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:01 IcookTacos wrote:
No Jaedong??


Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.

By qualifying? d:

Exactly. How?

If he took the risk of not even trying to qualify for GSL/NSSL S1 and GSL S2 it's probably because the probability of EG's dirty money getting him a visa is >90%.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 24 2015 14:35 GMT
#100
On March 24 2015 23:30 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:29 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:21 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:01 IcookTacos wrote:
No Jaedong??


Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.

By qualifying? d:

Exactly. How?

getting a visa and permission to play in the foreign wcs maybe

Probably. That's what StarDust wanted to do for season 2 IIRC. Qualify through NA challenger for WCS Premier.
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 24 2015 14:37 GMT
#101
On March 24 2015 23:35 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:29 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:21 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:01 IcookTacos wrote:
No Jaedong??


Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.

By qualifying? d:

Exactly. How?

getting a visa and permission to play in the foreign wcs maybe

Probably. That's what StarDust wanted to do for season 2 IIRC. Qualify through NA challenger for WCS Premier.


Getting the visa is going to be 100 times harder than reaching Premier
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 14:43:07
March 24 2015 14:42 GMT
#102
On March 24 2015 23:37 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:35 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:29 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:21 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:01 IcookTacos wrote:
No Jaedong??


Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.

By qualifying? d:

Exactly. How?

getting a visa and permission to play in the foreign wcs maybe

Probably. That's what StarDust wanted to do for season 2 IIRC. Qualify through NA challenger for WCS Premier.


Getting the visa is going to be 100 times harder than reaching Premier

I think the issue was something like he wouldn't get it in time for season 1 but for sure for season 2 so he sat out one season. Or something like that.
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
March 24 2015 14:45 GMT
#103
On March 24 2015 23:42 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:37 sAsImre wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:35 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:29 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:21 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:01 IcookTacos wrote:
No Jaedong??


Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.

By qualifying? d:

Exactly. How?

getting a visa and permission to play in the foreign wcs maybe

Probably. That's what StarDust wanted to do for season 2 IIRC. Qualify through NA challenger for WCS Premier.


Getting the visa is going to be 100 times harder than reaching Premier

I think the issue was something like he wouldn't get it in time for season 1 but for sure for season 2 so he sat out one season. Or something like that.

Yeah, something like that.
But, given that he hasn't been playing in a while now, I worry about his form. It's a huge gamble if he ends up not qualifying, or drops out in Challenger
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 24 2015 14:50 GMT
#104
On March 24 2015 23:45 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:42 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:37 sAsImre wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:35 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:29 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:21 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:01 IcookTacos wrote:
No Jaedong??


Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.

By qualifying? d:

Exactly. How?

getting a visa and permission to play in the foreign wcs maybe

Probably. That's what StarDust wanted to do for season 2 IIRC. Qualify through NA challenger for WCS Premier.


Getting the visa is going to be 100 times harder than reaching Premier

I think the issue was something like he wouldn't get it in time for season 1 but for sure for season 2 so he sat out one season. Or something like that.

Yeah, something like that.
But, given that he hasn't been playing in a while now, I worry about his form. It's a huge gamble if he ends up not qualifying, or drops out in Challenger

He streams every now and then. I think I saw his stream on just yesterday. Looked okay against Zerg (didn't watch more than 1 game).
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 24 2015 14:53 GMT
#105
On March 24 2015 23:45 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:42 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:37 sAsImre wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:35 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:29 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:21 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:01 IcookTacos wrote:
No Jaedong??


Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.

By qualifying? d:

Exactly. How?

getting a visa and permission to play in the foreign wcs maybe

Probably. That's what StarDust wanted to do for season 2 IIRC. Qualify through NA challenger for WCS Premier.


Getting the visa is going to be 100 times harder than reaching Premier

I think the issue was something like he wouldn't get it in time for season 1 but for sure for season 2 so he sat out one season. Or something like that.

Yeah, something like that.
But, given that he hasn't been playing in a while now, I worry about his form. It's a huge gamble if he ends up not qualifying, or drops out in Challenger

If you're talking about StarDust I wouldn't worry, he's too good not to qualify. JaeDong, however, scares me as well, since the last broadcasted games we have of him are a 4-1 loss to puCK.
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
March 24 2015 14:58 GMT
#106
On March 24 2015 23:53 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:45 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:42 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:37 sAsImre wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:35 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:29 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:21 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:01 IcookTacos wrote:
No Jaedong??


Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.

By qualifying? d:

Exactly. How?

getting a visa and permission to play in the foreign wcs maybe

Probably. That's what StarDust wanted to do for season 2 IIRC. Qualify through NA challenger for WCS Premier.


Getting the visa is going to be 100 times harder than reaching Premier

I think the issue was something like he wouldn't get it in time for season 1 but for sure for season 2 so he sat out one season. Or something like that.

Yeah, something like that.
But, given that he hasn't been playing in a while now, I worry about his form. It's a huge gamble if he ends up not qualifying, or drops out in Challenger

If you're talking about StarDust I wouldn't worry, he's too good not to qualify. JaeDong, however, scares me as well, since the last broadcasted games we have of him are a 4-1 loss to puCK.

When was that? The last I saw of Jaedong he lost to CJ herO 3 -1
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 15:01:12
March 24 2015 15:00 GMT
#107
On March 24 2015 23:58 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:53 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:45 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:42 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:37 sAsImre wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:35 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:29 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:21 Sakat wrote:
[quote]
Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.

By qualifying? d:

Exactly. How?

getting a visa and permission to play in the foreign wcs maybe

Probably. That's what StarDust wanted to do for season 2 IIRC. Qualify through NA challenger for WCS Premier.


Getting the visa is going to be 100 times harder than reaching Premier

I think the issue was something like he wouldn't get it in time for season 1 but for sure for season 2 so he sat out one season. Or something like that.

Yeah, something like that.
But, given that he hasn't been playing in a while now, I worry about his form. It's a huge gamble if he ends up not qualifying, or drops out in Challenger

If you're talking about StarDust I wouldn't worry, he's too good not to qualify. JaeDong, however, scares me as well, since the last broadcasted games we have of him are a 4-1 loss to puCK.

When was that? The last I saw of Jaedong he lost to CJ herO 3 -1

Hmm a showmatch that was something like 1 month ago iirc
edit : here : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/478448-jaedong-vs-puck-200-bo7-dingit-showmatch
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 24 2015 15:01 GMT
#108
On March 24 2015 23:53 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:45 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:42 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:37 sAsImre wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:35 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:29 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:21 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:01 IcookTacos wrote:
No Jaedong??


Jaedong said he'll play in WCS season 2. I don't know how though.

By qualifying? d:

Exactly. How?

getting a visa and permission to play in the foreign wcs maybe

Probably. That's what StarDust wanted to do for season 2 IIRC. Qualify through NA challenger for WCS Premier.


Getting the visa is going to be 100 times harder than reaching Premier

I think the issue was something like he wouldn't get it in time for season 1 but for sure for season 2 so he sat out one season. Or something like that.

Yeah, something like that.
But, given that he hasn't been playing in a while now, I worry about his form. It's a huge gamble if he ends up not qualifying, or drops out in Challenger

If you're talking about StarDust I wouldn't worry, he's too good not to qualify. JaeDong, however, scares me as well, since the last broadcasted games we have of him are a 4-1 loss to puCK.

He totally beat Believe 2-0 in Prime League though, 2 weeks ago. The Puck loss was in February.

Regarding StarDust, I checked his twitter, he said that his visa is almost done and he's very excited, and apparently he streamed to get to Master league (so it was either not the account he plays the most with or he actually hasn't played much).
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
March 24 2015 15:03 GMT
#109
On March 25 2015 00:00 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 23:58 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:53 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:45 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:42 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:37 sAsImre wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:35 Elentos wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:29 Sakat wrote:
On March 24 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
By qualifying? d:

Exactly. How?

getting a visa and permission to play in the foreign wcs maybe

Probably. That's what StarDust wanted to do for season 2 IIRC. Qualify through NA challenger for WCS Premier.


Getting the visa is going to be 100 times harder than reaching Premier

I think the issue was something like he wouldn't get it in time for season 1 but for sure for season 2 so he sat out one season. Or something like that.

Yeah, something like that.
But, given that he hasn't been playing in a while now, I worry about his form. It's a huge gamble if he ends up not qualifying, or drops out in Challenger

If you're talking about StarDust I wouldn't worry, he's too good not to qualify. JaeDong, however, scares me as well, since the last broadcasted games we have of him are a 4-1 loss to puCK.

When was that? The last I saw of Jaedong he lost to CJ herO 3 -1

Hmm a showmatch that was something like 1 month ago iirc
edit : here : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/478448-jaedong-vs-puck-200-bo7-dingit-showmatch


rofl what a disaster.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
March 24 2015 15:03 GMT
#110
Would rather see groups but I also don't mind Bo5s. Lots of interesting preparation opportunities for these people.
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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
March 24 2015 15:22 GMT
#111
Looks like every match is Kespa vs ESF
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 24 2015 16:05 GMT
#112
April 1: Group A
(T)YoDa < (Z)DongRaeGu
(P)Seed < (Z)soO
(T)TaeJa > (T)Sorry

April 2: Group B
(T)Hack < (T)Bbyong
(P)YongHwa > (Z)ByuL
(P)Panic < (P)Trap

April 3: Group C
(T)Heart > (P)sOs
(Z)PenguiN < (Z)Symbol
(P)First > (P)MyuNgSiK

April 8: Group D
(P)Dear > (Z)RagnaroK
(T)Bomber > (Z)Shine
(P)San > (Z)Sacsri

April 9: Group E
(T)Dream > (T)SuperNova
(T)Maru > (P)Billowy
(P)Rain < (T)Cure

April 10: Group F
(Z)Dark > (T)Ryung
(T)GuMiho > (Z)Impact
(P)Super > (T)Flash

April 15: Group G
(T)FanTaSy > (P)Pigbaby
(P)Terminator < (P)HerO
(Z)Soulkey < (P)Creator

April 17: Group H
(T)MarineKing > (P)Patience
(Z)Curious > (T)BrAvO
(P)MC > (P)Trust
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
March 24 2015 16:07 GMT
#113
no groups T_T
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 16:10:20
March 24 2015 16:08 GMT
#114
(T)YoDa < (Z)DRG
(P)Seed < (Z)soO
(T)TaeJa < (T)Sorry

(T)Hack < (T)Bbyong
(P)YongHwa < (Z)ByuL
(P)Panic < (P)Trap

(T)Heart < (P)sOs
(Z)PenguiN < (Z)Symbol
(P)First > (P)MyuNgSiK

(P)Dear > (Z)RagnaroK
(T)Bomber < (Z)Shine
(P)San < (Z)Sacsri

(T)Dream < (T)SuperNova
(T)Maru > (P)Billowy
(P)Rain < (T)Cure

(Z)Dark > (T)Ryung
(T)GuMiho < (Z)Impact
(P)Super > (T)Flash

(T)FanTaSy > (P)Pigbaby
(P)Terminator > (P)LiquidHerO
(Z)Soulkey > (P)Creator

(T)MarineKing < (P)Patience
(Z)Curious < (T)BrAvO
(P)MC > (P)Trust
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Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 16:14:01
March 24 2015 16:13 GMT
#115
MC MC ALWAYS MC !!! xD
*burp*
Derek2010
Profile Joined May 2011
United States30 Posts
March 24 2015 16:16 GMT
#116
Should be a good chance for up and coming players to get a more simple shot at code A. They can prepare for 1 opponent and their's can do the same which will mean them putting all their efforts and practice toward that instead of more than 1 opponent. I think this will bring more interesting games. GL Sorry!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 24 2015 17:07 GMT
#117
is Zest out in the wilderness somewhere?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 24 2015 17:12 GMT
#118
Why Bo5, groups are so much better :[
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CountZero71
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany89 Posts
March 24 2015 17:13 GMT
#119
On March 25 2015 01:13 Parcelleus wrote:
MC MC ALWAYS MC !!! xD


MMCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC !!!
You cannot kill what doesn't die...
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
March 24 2015 17:28 GMT
#120
On March 24 2015 18:08 darkscream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 16:59 Seeker wrote:
Apparently SuperNova is now on a team called ROOTS Gaming.


root gaming.

as in ROOTCatz, ROOterdam, former home of destiny, qxc, puck, major, vibe, slush, kane, sheth, so many others.. you speak of it as if you don't know it..

not impressed seeker, not impressed.

I was making a joke on the typo lol
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Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
March 24 2015 17:36 GMT
#121
Has Marineking been banned competitive play yet for intentionally throwing the game against Byul? If nothing comes of this it will be disgusting.

Rooting for Flash, Fantasy, and Bomber
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
March 24 2015 17:52 GMT
#122
Please keep it to the LR, we don't need this discussion in 3 places at once.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
March 24 2015 17:56 GMT
#123
Ehm WHEN is this? And will it be streamed in English?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 17:58:32
March 24 2015 17:58 GMT
#124
On March 25 2015 02:56 Mozdk wrote:
Ehm WHEN is this? And will it be streamed in English?

Dude. The dates are written above each group in the OP, from April 1 to April 17. I have no idea if this'll be casted, but I hope so.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 17:59:11
March 24 2015 17:58 GMT
#125
On March 25 2015 02:56 Mozdk wrote:
Ehm WHEN is this? And will it be streamed in English?


Dates are in the op (beginning April 1st with group A).

I can't imagine it not being streamed since it's only 3 bo5s a day.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
March 24 2015 18:21 GMT
#126
What's with this outdated map pool? Who's in charge of this thing?? Someone get Chae on the phone
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 18:41:52
March 24 2015 18:41 GMT
#127
April 1: Group A
(Z)DongRaeGu 3-2 (T)YoDa
(Z)soO 3-1 (P)Seed
(T)TaeJa 3-0 (T)Sorry
April 2: Group B
(T)Bbyong 3-1 (T)Hack
(Z)ByuL 3-2 (P)YongHwa
(P)Trap 3-0 (P)Panic
April 3: Group C
(P)sOs 3-1 (T)Heart
(Z)Symbol 3-0 (Z)PenguiN
(P)First 3-1 (P)MyuNgSiK
April 8: Group D
(P)Dear 3-1 (Z)RagnaroK
(T)Bomber 3-0 (Z)Shine
(P)San 3-2 (Z)Sacsri
April 9: Group E
(T)Dream 3-1 (T)SuperNova
(T)Maru 3-0 (P)Billowy
(T)Cure 3-2 (P)Rain
April 10: Group F
(Z)Dark 3-0 (T)Ryung
(T)GuMiho 3-1 (Z)Impact
(T)Flash 3-2 (P)Super
April 15: Group G
(T)FanTaSy 3-0 (P)Pigbaby
(P)LiquidHerO 3-1 (P)Terminator
(Z)Soulkey 3-1 (P)Creator
April 17: Group H
(T)MarineKing 3-0 (P)Patience
(Z)Curious 3-1 (T)BrAvO
(P)MC 3-1 (P)Trust
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 24 2015 19:51 GMT
#128
On March 25 2015 03:21 Polarexia wrote:
What's with this outdated map pool? Who's in charge of this thing?? Someone get Chae on the phone

Chae doesnt work at gom anymore he left
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GabrielRop
Profile Joined December 2014
6 Posts
March 24 2015 20:26 GMT
#129
Where is Zest?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 24 2015 20:29 GMT
#130
On March 25 2015 05:26 GabrielRop wrote:
Where is Zest?

He lost in the qualifier
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 24 2015 20:52 GMT
#131
On March 25 2015 05:29 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 05:26 GabrielRop wrote:
Where is Zest?

He lost in the qualifier

To TANGTANG
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
March 24 2015 21:02 GMT
#132
On March 25 2015 05:52 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 05:29 Shellshock wrote:
On March 25 2015 05:26 GabrielRop wrote:
Where is Zest?

He lost in the qualifier

To TANGTANG

Why does this surprise everyone so much? TANGTANG is Prime's future ffs. He's the next Maru.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
March 24 2015 21:48 GMT
#133
On March 25 2015 04:51 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 03:21 Polarexia wrote:
What's with this outdated map pool? Who's in charge of this thing?? Someone get Chae on the phone

Chae doesnt work at gom anymore he left


What? Who am I supposed to tweet at now to complain about the GSL quality and map pool?
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
March 24 2015 22:10 GMT
#134
On March 25 2015 06:02 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 05:52 Boucot wrote:
On March 25 2015 05:29 Shellshock wrote:
On March 25 2015 05:26 GabrielRop wrote:
Where is Zest?

He lost in the qualifier

To TANGTANG

Why does this surprise everyone so much? TANGTANG is Prime's future ffs. He's the next Maru.


So... Jin Air's future?
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
March 24 2015 22:25 GMT
#135
You can do it DRG. I barely watched SC2 in the last 2 months but I am going to watch your games!!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
March 24 2015 23:40 GMT
#136
On March 25 2015 07:25 Aeceus wrote:
You can do it DRG. I barely watched SC2 in the last 2 months but I am going to watch your games!!

I really hope for this
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 24 2015 23:41 GMT
#137
On March 25 2015 08:40 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 07:25 Aeceus wrote:
You can do it DRG. I barely watched SC2 in the last 2 months but I am going to watch your games!!

I really hope for this


Should be a brutal 3-0 for DRG.

Yoda's TvZ looks very weak lately.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
WidowMineHero
Profile Joined September 2014
New Zealand143 Posts
March 25 2015 03:35 GMT
#138
wait... how does this work?
"Time won't change anything, I will."
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
March 25 2015 03:36 GMT
#139
On March 25 2015 07:10 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 06:02 Seeker wrote:
On March 25 2015 05:52 Boucot wrote:
On March 25 2015 05:29 Shellshock wrote:
On March 25 2015 05:26 GabrielRop wrote:
Where is Zest?

He lost in the qualifier

To TANGTANG

Why does this surprise everyone so much? TANGTANG is Prime's future ffs. He's the next Maru.


So... Jin Air's future?

...Touche
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 25 2015 03:39 GMT
#140
On March 25 2015 12:35 WidowMineHero wrote:
wait... how does this work?

bo5, winner to code s loser to code b
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jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
March 25 2015 03:50 GMT
#141
isn't SSL season 2 qualifier tomorrow? Why no thread for that?
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
March 25 2015 04:14 GMT
#142
So many great players.

S**t format.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
March 25 2015 04:19 GMT
#143
uh, is Flash in Code S?
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 25 2015 05:17 GMT
#144
On March 25 2015 13:19 Lunareste wrote:
uh, is Flash in Code S?


He will be if he beats Super in a BO5. He'll be in Code B if he doesn't.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
March 25 2015 06:35 GMT
#145
Seed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crush that noob soO and show him how a real champion wins games!!!!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 25 2015 08:54 GMT
#146
Flash vs Super is disappointing tho. Not that I think Super is the worst opponent coming down from Code S Flash could've gotten. But TvP is like all he plays right now, I'd like to see him play something else again to show his form in other MUs.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Homunculus159
Profile Joined December 2014
Austria220 Posts
March 25 2015 16:34 GMT
#147
With how Taeja is playing recently I see him losing to Sorry
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 25 2015 17:40 GMT
#148
On March 26 2015 01:34 Homunculus159 wrote:
With how Taeja is playing recently I see him losing to Sorry

He did better against Dark at IEM than Maru did. Can't be that bad for a quasi-retired man with wrist problems. And it's not like Sorry is a bad player .
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-25 17:46:15
March 25 2015 17:46 GMT
#149
Yoda, soO, Taeja, Bbyong, Byul, Trap, sOs, Symbol, Myungsik, Dear, Bomber, San, Dream, Maru, Cure, Dark, Gumiho, Flash, Fantasy, Terminator, Soulkey, Patience, Bravo, MC to advance. Biggest heartbreakers (Code S caliber that got tough matchups) Yonghwa, Rain, Super
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
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