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Starbuck parts ways with mousesports
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
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Defenestrator
400 Posts
Starbuck was pretty good, sad to see him leave for CS:GO =/ | ||
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klipik12
United States241 Posts
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banjoetheredskin
United States744 Posts
 man I hope he stays in sc2. his builds are so cool, even when they don't work | ||
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Adept
United States472 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
then i read it again... tbh 2nd time reading it was kinda disappointing in a way :\ | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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EJK
United States1302 Posts
On February 06 2015 12:00 SuperHofmann wrote: he is talented, I hope to see him in a good team ya hopefully he will get picked up by a top csgo team | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
Hope he stays in, he is a consistent Challenger/RO32 Premier contender, so it's decent money. | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
On February 06 2015 12:30 vult wrote: All this EU talent Hope he stays in, he is a consistent Challenger/RO32 Premier contender, so it's decent money. Yeah,but the CS:GO passion man...it's real | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
Well I guess HeRoMaRinE is next in line now. | ||
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treach
Slovenia50 Posts
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4520 Posts
He barely didn't make it into WCS, everything else to play in either has 2 qualifier slots or is mostly invites.. there don't seem to be any open tournaments to play in europe anymore. IEM katowice is the only IEM event in Europe and likely won't have an OB. The Gfinity events in UK are likely going to be 90%+ invites. Dreamhack isn't starting untill May. Best of luck with the future Starbuck | ||
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
On February 06 2015 18:34 Liquid`Ret wrote: It's really hard for players who are at the upper skill level in Europe atm.. He barely didn't make it into WCS, everything else to play in either has 2 qualifier slots or is mostly invites.. there don't seem to be any open tournaments to play in europe anymore. IEM katowice is the only IEM event in Europe and likely won't have an OB. The Gfinity events in UK are likely going to be 90%+ invites. Dreamhack isn't starting untill May. Best of luck with the future Starbuck I don't understand why so many tournaments are invites. Sure, we want to see players we like but I'd rather see someone who deserves a spot because they play well not just some dude who has a big following on TL. | ||
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lantz
United States762 Posts
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HighArT
Croatia189 Posts
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ShoCkSC2
Germany340 Posts
On February 07 2015 00:14 DinoMight wrote: I don't understand why so many tournaments are invites. Sure, we want to see players we like but I'd rather see someone who deserves a spot because they play well not just some dude who has a big following on TL. The logic behind it is that esports in the end is an entertainment business. Exposure is money and those that create exposure thus will be a company's number one goal to put into their tournament. They don't care about skill or people deserving a spot. It's about who brings more views and thus more money. That's the logic behind invites, from a business standpoint it makes perfect sense | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 07 2015 00:14 DinoMight wrote: I don't understand why so many tournaments are invites. Sure, we want to see players we like but I'd rather see someone who deserves a spot because they play well not just some dude who has a big following on TL. Popular players = hype. Hype = viewers. Viewers = money. I mean look at BaseTradeTV's TSN which is running right now. As I'm writing this there are almost 4K viewers. Well, I'm pretty sure that if you threw a Naniwa or a Stephano, or even a Scarlett in there you'd have at least double the viewership. And when talking about big offline events with TL previews and all the shit, this factor could only increase. It is indeed very sad and I wish it wasn't like that, but not that hard to understand really. Especially considering a lot of tournament organizers in the SC2 scene don't have enough money to afford a tournament being a viewership/hype failure. | ||
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MavivaM
1535 Posts
On February 07 2015 01:03 ShoCkSC2 wrote: The logic behind it is that esports in the end is an entertainment business. Exposure is money and those that create exposure thus will be a company's number one goal to put into their tournament. They don't care about skill or people deserving a spot. It's about who brings more views and thus more money. That's the logic behind invites, from a business standpoint it makes perfect sense The flaw in the logic, however, it's that it doesn't help the scene's growth nor it stabilize it. Given the age of players, people come and go. But instead of rewarding the new ones (or better, the ones who train harder) they just go for popularity. Iirc a couple of years ago I wrote my only thread here about meritocracy, but between the whole tournament organizers, the only one to share my view on this was Carmac. Not a surprise that 99% of his tourneys tend to give fewer amounts of money but almost to everyone. Other than that, rather than sustaining the scene, it weakens it on the long run. | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
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Penev
28522 Posts
On February 07 2015 01:43 OtherWorld wrote: Popular players = hype. Hype = viewers. Viewers = money. I mean look at BaseTradeTV's TSN which is running right now. As I'm writing this there are almost 4K viewers. Well, I'm pretty sure that if you threw a Naniwa or a Stephano, or even a Scarlett in there you'd have at least double the viewership. And when talking about big offline events with TL previews and all the shit, this factor could only increase. It is indeed very sad and I wish it wasn't like that, but not that hard to understand really. Especially considering a lot of tournament organizers in the SC2 scene don't have enough money to afford a tournament being a viewership/hype failure. That, and qualifiers cost money too.. :/ | ||
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whereismymind
United Kingdom717 Posts
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whereismymind
United Kingdom717 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On February 07 2015 01:43 OtherWorld wrote: Popular players = hype. Hype = viewers. Viewers = money. I mean look at BaseTradeTV's TSN which is running right now. As I'm writing this there are almost 4K viewers. Well, I'm pretty sure that if you threw a Naniwa or a Stephano, or even a Scarlett in there you'd have at least double the viewership. And when talking about big offline events with TL previews and all the shit, this factor could only increase. It is indeed very sad and I wish it wasn't like that, but not that hard to understand really. Especially considering a lot of tournament organizers in the SC2 scene don't have enough money to afford a tournament being a viewership/hype failure. Personally, I'd feel more hyped seeing a no-name make his way through the bracket,especially because his skill was already verified coming through a qualifier. Seeing the same invites at tournaments can get stale too. Good luck in CS GO. | ||
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