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[Code S] Ro32 Group G - Hello Dark My Old Friend

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[Code S] Ro32 Group G - Hello Dark My Old Friend

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January 28th, 2015 02:35 GMT
2015 GSL Season 1

GSL Season One
Code S



Hello Dark My Old Friend
Ro32 Group G:
Dark, MMA, Dear, Seed

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Hello Dark My Old Friend


by munch

The Korean Starcraft 2 scene has undergone significant turmoil in the 2015 season. The new WCS system enforced the return of those plying their trade abroad, enriching an already saturated talent pool, while the reset of all seeds for Code S has shaken up the status quo. Group G is a perfect example of that chaos coming home to roost.

The Returning Champion

After a mediocre start to 2014, autumn saw (T)MMA return to form. Dual titles from WCS EU and Dreamhack: Moscow granted him an unlikely invitation to Blizzcon, where he earned second place. As the second oldest member of the Round of 32, MMA will need to channel all his experience to progress to the next round. But this theme has always been the story of his career. MMA has taken in the highest zeniths and the lowest nadirs—the giddy heights of triumphs in the GSL and Iron Squid I, the crushing depths of the SlayerS debacle. Despite the setbacks MMA has always bounced back. More than anyone, he symbolizes the resilience it takes to be a successful Starcraft progamer. Historically, MMA has been regarded as a strong TvZ and TvT player while struggling against protoss. However, this seems to have shifted recently. His Blizzcon performance showed an increased amount of TvP finesse with victories over Stardust and Classic; his struggles against Life were indicative of a player who notched a 38% win rate against Korean zergs in the latter half of 2014.

The Rising Padawan

As the final recruit into the vaunted house of SlayerS, (Z)Dark has always been associated with potential. Throughout 2014 he was constantly described as the secret powerhouse in SKT training sessions. That potential hasn't ripened into solid results yet. Although he successfully retained a spot in Code S for all 3 seasons, he was unable to push on to the playoffs, with his highest finish coming in Season 2 in the Round of 16. A 6-3 record was notable, but hardly reflective of a player of such repute.

Oh, how things have changed. Dark’s start to 2015 has been impressive. Successful qualification for the Korean dual leagues, combined with becoming SKT’s ace in Proleague, has marked him as one of the leading threats in Korea. It had poor Terminator practically begging Leenock to swap him out of Dark’s group during NSSL Ro16 selection night. But this is a dangerous time for Dark. Drop out of both leagues now and the bubble will quickly burst. Advance and a long awaited SKT zerg crown is one step closer.

The Dark Horse

It’s been two and a half years since (P)Seed’s GSL championship. One season after his triumph, he was knocked out in the Round of 16. The next, he fell in the Round of 32. Following that, 2013 would mark the start of a long barren streak. A brief sojourn in WCS America at the end of 2014 granted him his first Premier spot in 2 years, but that too ended at the first hurdle.

With the region lock, Seed retreated to his native Korea. The Dignitas Protoss was recruited to the MVP Proleague roster, and with that, found a welcome spot in Code S. Choya’s Lazarus Pit has worked wonders this season for his charges, and his…unconventional motivational methods may certainly be a factor. In Olimoleague #19, Seed fell to Trap in the quarterfinals 2-0. Not too big a deal—the Jin Air protoss is certainly not one to be taken lightly; Trap would proceed to fall to Choya himself in the semifinals. Whether Seed took heart in his coach winning is unclear.



Seed comes into this group with no pressure and no expectations. He has trawled the abyss of the Korean scene for long enough, and has finally re-emerged in the tournament which made his name. Whilst none of his recent results suggest that he'll progress, it would be folly to write him off completely. The title of GSL champion is not one awarded lightly.

The Fallen Star

No one’s quite had a rise like (P)Dear, and no one’s quite had a fall like him either. Twin championships back-to-back in 2013 marked him out as the protoss to watch and despite a crushing loss to Jaedong at Blizzcon, he started 2014 in the same serene form. Then came the fatal switch to Mouz and Dear utterly dropped off the map. Going from Code S champion to Code B dropout within two seasons is a precipitous drop unmatched in GSL history. Much like his fellow members in Group G, Dear has dragged himself back from the brink. Regaining his spot in Code S at the end of 2014, he’s back in the first season of 2015. His opening match against herO in Proleague showed that his ability to hit timings hasn't diminished. While his play has not been as sublime as it was in his prime, a Dear on form is a Protoss to be feared.

Predictions

Dark has recently shown off a fresh take on ZvT with corruptor-focused compositions in Proleague. The downside of this preference is a loss of mobility, and MMA’s heavy drop-harass style could be perfect for taking advantage of a non-mutalisk composition. However, Dark’s army positioning in recent matches has been superb, always reading his opponent’s moves with uncanny predictability. With MMA’s recent struggles in the matchup, I feel Dark will come out on top in the opening match. Seed has barely played in any recent LAN competitions, so our knowledge of his play is sketchy at best. However, he’s looked poor in Proleague whenever fielded (an 0-3 score so far this season) so I’ll have to pick Dear on the other side of the group.

From here, I’ll go with Dark and MMA to progress. Dark’s recent performances have suggested he’s a cut above anyone else in the group, and MMA’s TvP should carry him through the losers bracket.

Dark > MMA
Dear > Seed
Dark > Dear
MMA > Seed
MMA > Dear

(Z)Dark and (T)MMA to advance.

Writers: munch.
Editors: CosmicSpiral.
Graphics: lichter.
Photo: GOMeXP.
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Defessus
Profile Joined July 2011
United States164 Posts
January 28 2015 02:36 GMT
#2
MMA fighting, slayers forever!
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
January 28 2015 02:37 GMT
#3
Dear is the god of pvt. Pls
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
January 28 2015 02:48 GMT
#4
As much as I like MMA, I find it pretty unlikely for him to beat Dear... Dark should definitely be the favorite of this group, though. Guy is on fire (ironically, given his name is Dark).
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 28 2015 02:49 GMT
#5
I think Dear narrowly beats MMA to advance in 2nd.

I hope seeduuu makes it though
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Carminedust
Profile Joined October 2014
487 Posts
January 28 2015 02:55 GMT
#6
Dear and seed will make it out of the group cause that is what my coin flips told me
Maybe was Zoun only Fan before he retired idk
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
January 28 2015 03:10 GMT
#7
On January 28 2015 11:55 Carminedust wrote:
Dear and seed will make it out of the group cause that is what my coin flips told me


I don't think that coinflips are a good tool if there are clear favorites in the group, lol.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14001 Posts
January 28 2015 03:32 GMT
#8
Darkjwa is a god. Well done munchkin
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
newlocal2
Profile Joined September 2005
3 Posts
January 28 2015 03:32 GMT
#9
Is there anyone who bets? Does anyone have links to streams?
(*dont hate newbies, they are the future, BW never dies *)
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
January 28 2015 03:33 GMT
#10
have faith in the former protoss king seed
Moderatorlickypiddy
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 28 2015 03:37 GMT
#11
MMA's form is especially hard to pin down, since he hasn't played a ton recently. I'd still favour Dear over him however. And Dark of course over everyone else. Dark is fated for a disappointing ro8 loss against an underwhelming opponent. He can't lose here.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 28 2015 03:46 GMT
#12
Dark will slam MMA into the dirt, but what we need to know is the state of his TvP.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10834 Posts
January 28 2015 03:56 GMT
#13
Gogo Dark! I love his innovative style.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 28 2015 04:35 GMT
#14
Dark and Dear are the ones I want to see advance. Don't really like MMA or Seed that much
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AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
January 28 2015 04:57 GMT
#15
I have Dark and MMA advancing here...

Although my heart really really really wants Dear to advance...
FlyingSteaks
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil433 Posts
January 28 2015 05:20 GMT
#16
Dark and Dear I think
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
January 28 2015 05:29 GMT
#17
Seed, with mighty brain builds and amazing ceremony skills, advances! Nothing to see here, folks!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
January 28 2015 06:10 GMT
#18


Dear's got this tho, just you watch Undead1993 and that other guy.
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tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
January 28 2015 06:20 GMT
#19
hermano...
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
January 28 2015 07:39 GMT
#20
WTF, underestimating Dear much? ....

Dear is a lock for advancement, the question is can Dark qualify ahead of him or not.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2221 Posts
January 28 2015 08:16 GMT
#21
Go MMA!
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
January 28 2015 08:18 GMT
#22
Dark and probably Dear. I think MMA has a decent shot, but getting through the losers bracket is going to be tough... So yeah, Dark and Dear !
gdarky
Profile Joined August 2014
Latvia78 Posts
January 28 2015 08:19 GMT
#23
Go go (Z)Dark!
He has only one problem - MMA known his style and Dark don't know what MMA is planning.
1998-2003 ex-sc player under nickname SoL.Dark.wS
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 28 2015 08:29 GMT
#24
On January 28 2015 17:19 gdarky wrote:
Go go (Z)Dark!
He has only one problem - MMA known his style and Dark don't know what MMA is planning.

MMA's last (?) TvZ on record is a loss in the SSL qualifiers. To TerrorPrime.

Dark's gonna be just fine.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
January 28 2015 08:56 GMT
#25
On January 28 2015 15:20 tomastaz wrote:
hermano...


Hermano! Are you hermano?
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
January 28 2015 09:05 GMT
#26
MMA will prevail!
LiquipediaWanderer
nktiep
Profile Joined December 2010
Vietnam40 Posts
January 28 2015 09:34 GMT
#27
i think Dark and Dear advance round 16
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 28 2015 09:42 GMT
#28
Fuck I AGAIN forgot GSL starts at 10CET these days T_T
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
January 28 2015 09:44 GMT
#29
On January 28 2015 18:42 SC2Toastie wrote:
Fuck I AGAIN forgot GSL starts at 10CET these days T_T

10:30 CET. First match hasn't started yet, you're good (well now it has)
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
IAMPRO
Profile Joined November 2011
Afghanistan118 Posts
January 28 2015 10:18 GMT
#30
Dear in first place, Dark in second. Would like to see MMA cause an upset though. Dear is so so good. I am just amazed you can predict him to not make it out of the group.
SuHoSin - we'll never forget your genius
gdarky
Profile Joined August 2014
Latvia78 Posts
January 28 2015 14:04 GMT
#31
On January 28 2015 19:18 IAMPRO wrote:
Dear in first place, Dark in second. Would like to see MMA cause an upset though. Dear is so so good. I am just amazed you can predict him to not make it out of the group.


sorry, but at final, you was so wrong
1998-2003 ex-sc player under nickname SoL.Dark.wS
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
January 28 2015 14:05 GMT
#32
On January 28 2015 16:39 Shuffleblade wrote:
WTF, underestimating Dear much? ....

Dear is a lock for advancement, the question is can Dark qualify ahead of him or not.


Dear is a lock for Season 2 Code A in any case
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
WarPropheteer
Profile Joined January 2015
Canada9 Posts
January 28 2015 14:10 GMT
#33
TL predictions godlike
orllyfools
Profile Joined May 2012
United States153 Posts
January 28 2015 16:55 GMT
#34
So iff MMA wins Code S do we start the discussion for a new king of SC2? Won 3 back then, plus won WCS this last year.
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
January 29 2015 00:37 GMT
#35
I really thought Dear would make it over MMA.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10834 Posts
January 29 2015 01:13 GMT
#36
Dark for Code S Champion!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
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