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hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 15:42:35
December 18 2014 15:42 GMT
#21
On December 18 2014 18:03 SnowStormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 15:42 Zealously wrote:
On December 18 2014 15:36 SnowStormer wrote:
On December 18 2014 15:34 lichter wrote:
too late i clicked


Pls make FPL. Im getting desperate.

We're waiting for R1CH (who is on vacation) to enable things as far as I know. There will be FPL soon though


I have a bet with my friends that who ever get's the best FPL score wins a Glenfiddich, and I take my whiskey seriously.
The FPL can't come fast enough

(Btw you'll make Life cheap right?)


I see Life more as a 5/6 value, if you call that cheap
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 18 2014 15:43 GMT
#22
Zoun, just to mess with people
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 18 2014 15:48 GMT
#23
On December 18 2014 16:32 hansonslee wrote:
Hmm...

Let's go by teams:

SKT: Innovation
Jin Air: sOs, Maru, Rogue
KT Rolster: TY, Flash, Zest, Stats
CJ Entus: herO, Bbyong, ByuL
Prime: Creator (Prime's only savior)
Samsung: Solar
MVP: It's hard to say, but I won't say MKP2 yet (1 tournament run isn't going to translate to Proleague results)
Startale/YoeFlash Wolves: Like MVP, most of these players aren't great PL vets, so we'll see how they do.

Myungsik and Yoda should both be better players for Prime
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josephmcjoe
Profile Joined October 2009
United States57 Posts
December 18 2014 16:06 GMT
#24
Bbyong surprised me last season. I'll have to see how many points he's priced at.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 18 2014 16:49 GMT
#25
On December 18 2014 15:28 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Zest will be a good anti-team pick. Patchtoss that will most likely be very overpriced.

If you wanna lose a lot of points, sure go for it
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
December 18 2014 17:41 GMT
#26
On December 18 2014 18:03 SnowStormer wrote:
I have a bet with my friends that who ever get's the best FPL score wins a Glenfiddich, and I take my whiskey seriously.
The FPL can't come fast enough

(Btw you'll make Life cheap right?)

Glenfiddich is not whiskey, it's whisky.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
December 18 2014 18:10 GMT
#27
It's kind of stupid to think about who to pick without knowing the cost. The only argument that would make sense is something like "Writer X unreasonably likes player Y, so it is likely that Y will be overrated." Otherwise we just don't know if the writers will do a good job with pricing the players. Last season for example was priced reasonably (as evidenced by the low point count of everyone) but the seasons before it was kind of stupid.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
December 18 2014 18:27 GMT
#28
On December 18 2014 15:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
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On December 18 2014 15:31 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
oh if we're including anti-team picks: TAEJA TAEJA TAEJA :p

Oh he's good....when he actually plays!


He'll probably play in the first series against SKT to worsen soO's post-traumatic stress disorder, but after that I agree with you in that he probably won't play much.

That would be hilarious. Taeja beats soO, causing him to go on tilt and lose every game from then on, and never actually plays again in FPL. Sad, cruel, and hilarious.

Realistically, I expect the writers to be in the same mindset as everyone else concerning Taeja and price him at like 4 or 5, and at that price even if he plays like 30% of matches he'll have been a good pick.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
December 18 2014 20:07 GMT
#29
Where is the FPL, the first games are pretty soon right?

On that note Cure, Maru, Classic and Dark are the main players I will look to pick up depending on their costs.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 18 2014 20:45 GMT
#30
On December 19 2014 05:07 Shuffleblade wrote:
Where is the FPL, the first games are pretty soon right?

On that note Cure, Maru, Classic and Dark are the main players I will look to pick up depending on their costs.

Hm i would rate them as 6,8,7 and 5.
Maybe +1 each, not sure^^
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Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
December 18 2014 20:50 GMT
#31
RICH plz, what are you doing?
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
SackOfWetMice
Profile Joined October 2014
United States288 Posts
December 18 2014 20:54 GMT
#32
On December 19 2014 01:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 15:28 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Zest will be a good anti-team pick. Patchtoss that will most likely be very overpriced.

If you wanna lose a lot of points, sure go for it

Your blatant KT fanboyism is disgusting.

Flash 0-3 Life. Flash looked like a NA Masters level Terran. I called this a while ago, and was flamed for saying Zest and Flash will drop off in 2015. And Zest didn't even qualify for either SSL or GSL. Flash did. So I wonder how hilariously bad Zest's games would have looked if his qualifier matches had been streamed.
Zest - Flash - TY - Top 3 SC2! - KT Rolster Fighting, #6 team in Proleague! - Zest #1 Proleague Ace Player!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 18 2014 21:02 GMT
#33
On December 19 2014 05:54 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 01:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 18 2014 15:28 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Zest will be a good anti-team pick. Patchtoss that will most likely be very overpriced.

If you wanna lose a lot of points, sure go for it

Your blatant KT fanboyism is disgusting.

Flash 0-3 Life. Flash looked like a NA Masters level Terran. I called this a while ago, and was flamed for saying Zest and Flash will drop off in 2015. And Zest didn't even qualify for either SSL or GSL. Flash did. So I wonder how hilariously bad Zest's games would have looked if his qualifier matches had been streamed.

I would rather say your trolling is pretty obvious.
Then go for it, pick both Zest and Flash for your antiteam, i am pretty sure you won't do well if you really believe what you say...
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 18 2014 21:03 GMT
#34
On December 19 2014 05:54 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 01:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 18 2014 15:28 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Zest will be a good anti-team pick. Patchtoss that will most likely be very overpriced.

If you wanna lose a lot of points, sure go for it

Your blatant KT fanboyism is disgusting.

Flash 0-3 Life. Flash looked like a NA Masters level Terran. I called this a while ago, and was flamed for saying Zest and Flash will drop off in 2015. And Zest didn't even qualify for either SSL or GSL. Flash did. So I wonder how hilariously bad Zest's games would have looked if his qualifier matches had been streamed.

Man, you have 51 posts and I swear this is the 15th time I read you calling Zest "patchtoss" ...
SackOfWetMice
Profile Joined October 2014
United States288 Posts
December 18 2014 21:42 GMT
#35
On December 19 2014 06:03 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 05:54 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On December 19 2014 01:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 18 2014 15:28 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Zest will be a good anti-team pick. Patchtoss that will most likely be very overpriced.

If you wanna lose a lot of points, sure go for it

Your blatant KT fanboyism is disgusting.

Flash 0-3 Life. Flash looked like a NA Masters level Terran. I called this a while ago, and was flamed for saying Zest and Flash will drop off in 2015. And Zest didn't even qualify for either SSL or GSL. Flash did. So I wonder how hilariously bad Zest's games would have looked if his qualifier matches had been streamed.

Man, you have 51 posts and I swear this is the 15th time I read you calling Zest "patchtoss" ...

Look at Zest's Aligulac page. Do you not think it's a bit odd that he saw his two largest spikes in rating shortly after 2.0.9 and 2.0.12? (And each spike is followed by a plateau) That's the definition of a "patch toss."

[image loading]

He had a consistently poor rating until those patches.

Not to mention that 2014 was the undisputed year of Protoss, and the worst year ever for Terran. What was it, 16 Protoss in GSL S1 and 3 Terran? Now let's look at which matchups are Zest's strongest and weakest:

[image loading]

I can't be the only one who sees this. It's fairly obvious that he rode good PvP during the year of Protoss to success.

Compare that to someone like Rain (consistency, was good before 2.0.9 and 2.0.12):

[image loading]
Zest - Flash - TY - Top 3 SC2! - KT Rolster Fighting, #6 team in Proleague! - Zest #1 Proleague Ace Player!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 18 2014 21:46 GMT
#36
Damn, this guy really doesn't like Zest xD
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 18 2014 21:48 GMT
#37
On December 19 2014 06:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Damn, this guy really doesn't like Zest xD


Maybe he has feelings for Zest that he just doesn't know how to handle... it can be very confusing and conflicting at first.

It's okay dude, those are natural. He's just a very attractive person, don't fight it! Embrace it!
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SackOfWetMice
Profile Joined October 2014
United States288 Posts
December 18 2014 21:49 GMT
#38
On December 19 2014 06:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Damn, this guy really doesn't like Zest xD

I like Zest just fine, I just don't like any player, regardless of who he/she is, getting a level of recognition that I don't think they quite deserve.
Zest - Flash - TY - Top 3 SC2! - KT Rolster Fighting, #6 team in Proleague! - Zest #1 Proleague Ace Player!
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
December 18 2014 21:50 GMT
#39
guys, out of the subject question, but how do you make a forum?
I found a talk show with mma and mc in eng on youtube and want to post it.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 18 2014 21:52 GMT
#40
On December 19 2014 06:42 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 06:03 TheDwf wrote:
On December 19 2014 05:54 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On December 19 2014 01:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 18 2014 15:28 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Zest will be a good anti-team pick. Patchtoss that will most likely be very overpriced.

If you wanna lose a lot of points, sure go for it

Your blatant KT fanboyism is disgusting.

Flash 0-3 Life. Flash looked like a NA Masters level Terran. I called this a while ago, and was flamed for saying Zest and Flash will drop off in 2015. And Zest didn't even qualify for either SSL or GSL. Flash did. So I wonder how hilariously bad Zest's games would have looked if his qualifier matches had been streamed.

Man, you have 51 posts and I swear this is the 15th time I read you calling Zest "patchtoss" ...

+ Show Spoiler +
Look at Zest's Aligulac page. Do you not think it's a bit odd that he saw his two largest spikes in rating shortly after 2.0.9 and 2.0.12? (And each spike is followed by a plateau) That's the definition of a "patch toss."

[image loading]

He had a consistently poor rating until those patches.

Not to mention that 2014 was the undisputed year of Protoss, and the worst year ever for Terran. What was it, 16 Protoss in GSL S1 and 3 Terran? Now let's look at which matchups are Zest's strongest and weakest:

[image loading]

I can't be the only one who sees this. It's fairly obvious that he rode good PvP during the year of Protoss to success.

Compare that to someone like Rain (consistency, was good before 2.0.9 and 2.0.12):

[image loading]


Ah, the old "players that improve during a time when their race is doing well cannot actually be legitimately good and never will be"-argument. Classic. Don't you think it's strange that Zest only hit a rough patch after Blizzcon (which was well after the worst part of the blink era) and even then made top 4 in Hot6ix Cup?
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