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Steven 'Destiny' Bonnell II's Blog Article - Page 14

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pieroog
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 09:14:44
December 18 2014 09:12 GMT
#261
AFAIK Destiny started the whole cry about dead-game (which poisoned a lot of people I know) and he's what... a saviour now?
SCguineapig
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Netherlands289 Posts
December 18 2014 09:53 GMT
#262
yeah he is.
broodwar wasn't perfect
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
December 18 2014 09:54 GMT
#263
On December 18 2014 18:12 pieroog wrote:
AFAIK Destiny started the whole cry about dead-game (which poisoned a lot of people I know) and he's what... a saviour now?


is destiny solely responsible for the negativity surrounding the game's decline?

you're giving him too much credit there.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
December 18 2014 10:00 GMT
#264
destiny has been pretty consistent about his thoughts on the game and the tournament scene for years now and has been consistently ignored or written off by several players, figures, band wagoners, "fans who enjoy positivity" for years now.

the post is hardly a turn around for him lol
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Kingsky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore298 Posts
December 18 2014 10:36 GMT
#265
Say what you want about him, but his posts makes sense and if blizzard actually followed some of his suggestions sc2 would have more viewers
Why do people hate the Colossus? Because the Colossus is like banksters from Wall Street: “too big to fail”. - TheDwF
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 18 2014 10:52 GMT
#266
On December 18 2014 06:48 CCa1ss1e wrote:
Sorry, but the way Destiny acts around other users and even that blizz PR is disgusting. What an a-hole.

Why is it that so many people seem to think that "you're mean!" is an argument? He made some points about the game, which you are free to dispute. Calling him a poo-poo head does not refute those points in any way. Everything he's saying has been said for more than four years now. He's hardly alone in holding these views. My patience with Blizzards fluffy answers and general intractability is wearing thin too.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
NihilisticGod
Profile Joined March 2011
Northern Ireland174 Posts
December 18 2014 11:50 GMT
#267
Good ole Destiny marmite lol. Either love or hate him!

I for one am glad to read such a blog and by someone notable in the community. Hopefully Blizzard will consider the points you've made and something constructive comes from it. There is no doubt Sc2 will be around a long time but the question of how big it will be in 2 years will be interesting to see.
Too weird to live... too rare to die.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
December 18 2014 13:21 GMT
#268
On December 18 2014 19:52 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 06:48 CCa1ss1e wrote:
Sorry, but the way Destiny acts around other users and even that blizz PR is disgusting. What an a-hole.

Why is it that so many people seem to think that "you're mean!" is an argument? He made some points about the game, which you are free to dispute. Calling him a poo-poo head does not refute those points in any way. Everything he's saying has been said for more than four years now. He's hardly alone in holding these views. My patience with Blizzards fluffy answers and general intractability is wearing thin too.

Because quite a lot of people expect others to be polite and modest?
Kazahk
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States385 Posts
December 18 2014 16:44 GMT
#269
On December 18 2014 19:52 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 06:48 CCa1ss1e wrote:
Sorry, but the way Destiny acts around other users and even that blizz PR is disgusting. What an a-hole.

Why is it that so many people seem to think that "you're mean!" is an argument? He made some points about the game, which you are free to dispute. Calling him a poo-poo head does not refute those points in any way. Everything he's saying has been said for more than four years now. He's hardly alone in holding these views. My patience with Blizzards fluffy answers and general intractability is wearing thin too.

There is a difference between stating points calmly and being an ass. He quite a few times sounded like a kid having a tantrum. Being an ass is likely to result in people writing you and your opinions off.
Rngesus blessed me with a tooth half, then shunned me with a spinach roll.
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
December 18 2014 16:52 GMT
#270
Kazahk, Destiny can string swear words together like nobody. It doesn't bother me! So what if he swears? Or as you put it "sounded liked a kid". So what?

How can that in anyway shape or form negate that article? What on earth has it got to do with it? He's vocal, swears: therefore what he says is irrelevant? Huh.

It's presented well, and written well. Sources and links to various items to help back up points.. If people are stupid enough to dismiss someone out of hand without thinking or reading what's being discussed. More the fool them.

Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17878 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 17:22:33
December 18 2014 17:18 GMT
#271
the problem with frequently using swear words with no precise meaning is it lowers the signal to noise ratio of your message.
in a debate about the deep nuances of entertainment software monetization this can mean the difference between being understood or not being understood.

extracting hundreds of millions of dollars from millions of consumers is a deep, intricate, complex task.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 17:29:49
December 18 2014 17:27 GMT
#272
Is it financially worthwhile for Blizzard to allocate resources to Starcraft to continually support it in the way Valve and Riot support their games? Destiny says:

"And on top of all of this, they found a way to finance their development teams – by using the Steam market to sell skins and keys."

Can Blizzard monetize Starcaft besides initial sale? It's not the same as a MOBA or FPS, and I doubt it. So you can't blame Blizzard for not supporting an RTS in the same way as those comanies support their games.

And no, Blizzard isn't going to make SC2 more like Brood War. That might be good for the TL superfans, but not for Blizzard's financial interest in attracting casuals.

And let's not forget Blizzard has propped up the GSL with their own money since the very beginning. They do WCS basically as charity to the community.
robopork
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States511 Posts
December 18 2014 17:50 GMT
#273
On December 18 2014 19:52 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 06:48 CCa1ss1e wrote:
Sorry, but the way Destiny acts around other users and even that blizz PR is disgusting. What an a-hole.

Why is it that so many people seem to think that "you're mean!" is an argument? He made some points about the game, which you are free to dispute. Calling him a poo-poo head does not refute those points in any way. Everything he's saying has been said for more than four years now. He's hardly alone in holding these views. My patience with Blizzards fluffy answers and general intractability is wearing thin too.


This exactly. I don't like the way the guy treats or talks to people, but he's right.
“This left me alone to solve the coffee problem - a sort of catch-22, as in order to think straight I need caffeine, and in order to make that happen I need to think straight.”
Exitor45
Profile Joined August 2012
United States72 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 19:27:01
December 18 2014 19:26 GMT
#274
I have not always agreed with destiny in the past, but there was a lot of strong points in his post that Blizzard should seriously take into consideration. Well written.
Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 18 2014 19:54 GMT
#275
On December 18 2014 22:21 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 19:52 Squat wrote:
On December 18 2014 06:48 CCa1ss1e wrote:
Sorry, but the way Destiny acts around other users and even that blizz PR is disgusting. What an a-hole.

Why is it that so many people seem to think that "you're mean!" is an argument? He made some points about the game, which you are free to dispute. Calling him a poo-poo head does not refute those points in any way. Everything he's saying has been said for more than four years now. He's hardly alone in holding these views. My patience with Blizzards fluffy answers and general intractability is wearing thin too.

Because quite a lot of people expect others to be polite and modest?

That is still not an argument. It is a whine. The points stand regardless of whether someone had their feelings hurt.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
alpenrahm
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany629 Posts
December 18 2014 19:56 GMT
#276
hey, since we all agree that something has to be done why don´t we just spam the fuck outta Blizzards Bnetforum?

Everybody just copy paste the OP open a thread on their forum and put your signature under it in!
alpenrahm
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany629 Posts
December 18 2014 19:57 GMT
#277
im gonna start now... will probably be doing this for a while. i d like the message to sink in
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 20:08:13
December 18 2014 20:02 GMT
#278
On December 18 2014 18:54 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 18:12 pieroog wrote:
AFAIK Destiny started the whole cry about dead-game (which poisoned a lot of people I know) and he's what... a saviour now?


is destiny solely responsible for the negativity surrounding the game's decline?

you're giving him too much credit there.

He's genuinely a huge part of it. Perception is so important. Go on Reddit's homepage, click on the top right and search 'StarCraft', look at the first result.
alpenrahm
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany629 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 20:02:41
December 18 2014 20:02 GMT
#279
On December 19 2014 02:50 robopork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 19:52 Squat wrote:
On December 18 2014 06:48 CCa1ss1e wrote:
Sorry, but the way Destiny acts around other users and even that blizz PR is disgusting. What an a-hole.

Why is it that so many people seem to think that "you're mean!" is an argument? He made some points about the game, which you are free to dispute. Calling him a poo-poo head does not refute those points in any way. Everything he's saying has been said for more than four years now. He's hardly alone in holding these views. My patience with Blizzards fluffy answers and general intractability is wearing thin too.


This exactly. I don't like the way the guy treats or talks to people, but he's right.


yea destiny is a B***hole but the time for asking pleasantry is gone. we have to hammer it into their lazy ass numb skulls.
JokerAi
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany142 Posts
December 18 2014 20:03 GMT
#280
main problem with sc2 it is that casuals cant play this game becouse they must lrean to much befor they can win games.
It´s frustraiting to lose in sc2 you are working so hard and you need so long time to play better.
http://www.twitch.tv/jokersfun
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