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Billowy has joined SKT.He's the second ex-MVP player to join SKT,
Dream being the first.SKT's complete active roster:
BillowyClassic
DarkDreamINnoVationParalyzEsoOSorry
Billowy joins SKT T1
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
Billowy has joined SKT.He's the second ex-MVP player to join SKT, Dream being the first.SKT's complete active roster: BillowyClassicDarkDreamINnoVationParalyzEsoOSorry
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GreenMash
Norway1746 Posts
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Jer99
Canada8157 Posts
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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Fuell
Netherlands3111 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:09 Jer99 wrote: Look for him in FPL, gonna be cheap and produce decent results how is he gonna produce results if he's never fielded | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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REyeM
2674 Posts
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wmb
Sweden282 Posts
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:12 sabas123 wrote: this roster looks so small:/ I hope they still have b-teamers left? Small but everyone is a beast so its ok. | ||
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Random_0
United States1163 Posts
I hope iloveoov still has some magic in his coaching hat. | ||
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Jer99
Canada8157 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:10 Fuell wrote: how is he gonna produce results if he's never fielded They'll play him | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:14 Random_0 wrote: Damn. SKT roster went from Rain, PartinG, and Soulkey to these scrubs?I hope iloveoov still has some magic in his coaching hat. soO and INnoVation are both S-classClassic is a GSL championBillowy is a really solid teamleague playerDark , ParalyzE , Dream and Sorry are much better than what people give them credit forstill better roster than most teams IMHO (also they can ban Parting from ST) | ||
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SkySC2
Germany303 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:18 Ej_ wrote: soO and INnoVation are both S-classClassic is a GSL championBillowy is a really solid teamleague playerDark , ParalyzE , Dream and Sorry are much better than what people give them credit forstill better roster than most teams IMHO (also they can ban Parting from ST) seed is a gsl champion aswell and doesnt count to the "top players" for a long time now.. sooo | ||
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Liliputin
Czech Republic458 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:21 SkySC2 wrote: seed is a gsl champion aswell and doesnt count to the "top players" for a long time now.. sooo GSL Champion within the last year might be a better way of putting it. | ||
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REyeM
2674 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:22 Liliputin wrote: He doesn't go through Prime's tryouts, he goes to SKT :DD... This looks like a desperation move to me... SKT has a much bigger potentional than this... ^^ Yes, but.. no one decent to recruit. =\ | ||
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SkySC2
Germany303 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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hfsrj
Germany166 Posts
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
<3 this guy. He's done some amazingly stupid builds in the past (hidden island base and all). Hope he does well. | ||
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:30 hfsrj wrote: Classic showed really strong results, I dunno why some still dismiss him that easily... Classic is so underrated. The guy is really good yet he's written off as a patch toss because he won his GSL when Protoss was strong. | ||
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SkySC2
Germany303 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:29 DarkLordOlli wrote: You'll all be surprised by Dream. The kid has massive, MASSIVE potential. so the terran equivalant to life ? | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
Maybe, but not very often. soO, Innovation and Classic should all play most of the time. But I'm sure that the first two will be off to other tournaments at times so that they don't want or can't play. However, there are other players. If Proleague once again uses the Bo5 format, then I say he will maybe play 1 or 2 times unless he shows really good games in practise which is possible. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:29 DarkLordOlli wrote: You'll all be surprised by Dream. The kid has massive, MASSIVE potential. Isn't it what people say for years about him? | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:35 TheDwf wrote: Isn't it what people say for years about him? Dream is the korean Demuslim. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
He's bizzaro Maru. Everything Maru is but never fulfilling his potential. On December 11 2014 00:35 TheDwf wrote: Isn't it what people say for years about him? It's gonna happen damn it!  | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:35 TheDwf wrote: Isn't it what people say for years about him? People said the same about Maru for years and he only rarely showed flashes of brilliance, until he finally got a good practice environment. I believe in Kespa. | ||
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REyeM
2674 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:18 Ej_ wrote: soO and INnoVation are both S-classClassic is a GSL championBillowy is a really solid teamleague playerDark , ParalyzE , Dream and Sorry are much better than what people give them credit forstill better roster than most teams IMHO (also they can ban Parting from ST) Dark is safe choice for top-3 Zerg in Korea next season and he's top-5 already. That's not Jin Air roster, but who cares, it's time to win, 4 years without gold is a lot. If bo7 SPL happens, T1 might have a bit of problems in first rounds, but if it's bo5, i don't see a single reason why can't it happen. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Dark is safe choice for top-3 Zerg in Korea next season and he's top-5 already. That's not Jin Air roster, but who cares, it's time to win, 4 years without gold is a lot. If bo7 SPL happens, T1 might have a bit of problems in first rounds, but if it's bo5, i don't see a single reason why can't it happen. Yo JINAIR GREEN WINGS Try again in 10 years plz | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:41 OtherWorld wrote: Wow that's a pretty big stretch between Prime and SKT, I wonder if he left Prime because of his contacts with SKT. SKT's roster looks solid now, not as solid as KT/JAGW/CJ/(and possibly Startale depending on how players synergize with each other) though You really think SKT isn't as strong as CJ? CJ has 0 GSL finals vs current SKT's 7. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Dark is safe choice for top-3 Zerg in Korea next season and he's top-5 already. That's not Jin Air roster, but who cares, it's time to win, 4 years without gold is a lot. If bo7 SPL happens, T1 might have a bit of problems in first rounds, but if it's bo5, i don't see a single reason why can't it happen. What has Dark done lately? Admittedly, I tend to forget about him myself even when he's been code S all year, but top 5 Zerg seems like a bit of a stretch. That's even with Zerg having the weakest player pool. Life, soO, Soulkey, Solar, DRG imo. Dark is more in the demi-god tier with Rogue and ByuL. | ||
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Pyloss
Germany1515 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: What has Dark done lately? I tend to forget about him myself when he has at least been code S all year, but top 5 Zerg seems like a bit of a stretch. That's even with Zerg having the weakest player pool. Life, soO, Soulkey, Solar, DRG imo. Dark is more in the demi-god tier with Rogue and ByuL. I think Rogue is underrated, he's been #1 GM in korea for a good chunk of time recently, which historically has been a good indicator of skill. Dark is considered very good in practice too from what I heard. | ||
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Liliputin
Czech Republic458 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:36 DarkLordOlli wrote: People said the same about Maru for years and he only rarely showed flashes of brilliance, until he finally got a good practice environment. I believe in Kespa. Maru is the work of Prime, noone can take that from me... | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:44 ZAiNs wrote: You really think SKT isn't as strong as CJ? CJ has 0 GSL finals vs current SKT's 7. If we think about individual leagues KT didn't have a single GSL finals (iirc, I might be wrong on that) at the beginning of the last SPL season. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:46 DarkLordOlli wrote: I think Rogue is underrated, he's been #1 GM in korea for a good chunk of time recently, which historically has been a good indicator of skill. Dark is considered very good in practice too from what I heard. Yeah Rogue is definitely up there with Solar and DRG, maybe not quite Soulkey, Life, soO but he will be I think. Can't wait to put him in my fpl team  . | ||
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
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algue
France1436 Posts
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
Love that guy , he builds like 1000 observers every game | ||
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SkySC2
Germany303 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
Maybe if it's BO7, but in BO5 I would doubt it will happen much. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
Good luck Billowy! | ||
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REyeM
2674 Posts
Sorry guys, everyone always seems to forget him. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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Hier
2391 Posts
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wmb
Sweden282 Posts
On December 11 2014 01:19 REyeM wrote: Also.. don't forget Sorry guys, everyone always seems to forget him.no one forgets him its just that some of the roster is better than him atm | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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gneGne
Netherlands697 Posts
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lastride
2390 Posts
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Pino
1032 Posts
On December 11 2014 01:41 lastride wrote: Lol what is happening to skt? Are they freaking serious? You don't need 6 S class players to win pro league. SKT had a super stacked roster last year and it didn't work. I'm fully ok with that move, and even more hope they sign a good (not necessarily great) zerg to complete the roster | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On December 11 2014 01:41 lastride wrote: Lol what is happening to skt? Are they freaking serious? They understood team leagues=/=individual leagues | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:42 SC2Toastie wrote: Yo JINAIR GREEN WINGS Try again in 10 years plz That's why Jin Air is name of company, coolio. On December 11 2014 00:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: What has Dark done lately? Admittedly, I tend to forget about him myself even when he's been code S all year, but top 5 Zerg seems like a bit of a stretch. That's even with Zerg having the weakest player pool. Life, soO, Soulkey, Solar, DRG imo. Dark is more in the demi-god tier with Rogue and ByuL. Idk, DRG had that one miracle run in Code S but i don't see him above Dark this season at all with Dark consistently performing in Code S/Proleague. We'll see though, Zergs are pretty weak outside of soO/Life/Solar in achievements this season even with cool maps in season 2. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:49 OtherWorld wrote: If we think about individual leagues KT didn't have a single GSL finals (iirc, I might be wrong on that) at the beginning of the last SPL season. Yea, I guess it doesn't mean much to point out CJ has 0 GSL finals, but SKT having 7 shows they are still a force to be reckoned with. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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skylinefan
Malaysia53 Posts
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Samx
Singapore149 Posts
All in all skt looks a notch below from last season. The loss of rain and soulkey is telling. Because they are such good players that don't rely on gimmicks or balance and just straight up show that they are superior players regardless of racial balance. I don't see with current roster skt to be able to compete with kt. Stats is grossly underrated. Zest is the best player in the world. Flash is a monster for Proleague format. Ty's multi tasking and micro is possibly the strongest amongst terran pros. Against JAGW. I don't see anyone on SKT to be as skilled as SoS. Possibly only SoO is on SoS level. Maru will exploit 11/11's unabashedly. I don't see anyone outside of Bogus, SoO and classic having a decent chance against cure. On current strength, SKT can get 2-2 against JAGW if the match ups are favourable. But will have problem against SoS in ace match. SKT need a consistent 4th leg to supplement Bogus SoO and Classic. DRG would be good. | ||
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astray71
United States325 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:12 sabas123 wrote: this roster looks so small:/ I hope they still have b-teamers left? All of the kespa teams look small now =/ SKT has soO, INnoVation, Classic, and Dark KT has Zest, TY, Flash, and Stats Jin Air has Maru, sOs, Cure, and Rogue CJ has Bbyong, herO, and ByuL Samsung has Solar and Dear Prime has no one MVP has Marineking (who still has the Mvp curse of 2nd place) Startale has Life and maybe Parting if kespa lets him play. Proleague 2015 is going to be a global thing right? We know Team Liquid probably isn't playing with HerO going to play for MVP Acer probably isn't going to play with only 4 activate players (I've never seen Paranoid) Axiom is possible The only other teams that will be able to compete with the Kespa teams are probably mYinsanity with Jjakji, Rain, and Stardust and Yoe Flash Wolves with Leenock, San and Parting. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On December 11 2014 05:26 Samx wrote: Against JAGW. I don't see anyone on SKT to be as skilled as SoS. Possibly only SoO is on SoS level. Maru will exploit 11/11's unabashedly. I don't see anyone outside of Bogus, SoO and classic having a decent chance against cure. On current strength, SKT can get 2-2 against JAGW if the match ups are favourable. But will have problem against SoS in ace match. or Maru. Or Cure. Or Rogue. Or Pigbaby. Or a dozen others. FU other teams, JAGW taking this one home ♥ | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On December 11 2014 05:31 astray71 wrote: All of the kespa teams look small now =/ SKT has soO, INnoVation, Classic, and Dark KT has Zest, TY, Flash, and Stats Jin Air has Maru, sOs, Cure, and Rogue CJ has Bbyong, herO, and ByuL Samsung has Solar and Dear Prime has no one MVP has Marineking (who still has the Mvp curse of 2nd place) Startale has Life and maybe Parting if kespa lets him play. Proleague 2015 is going to be a global thing right? We know Team Liquid probably isn't playing with HerO going to play for MVP Acer probably isn't going to play with only 4 activate players (I've never seen Paranoid) Axiom is possible The only other team that will be able to compete with the Kespa teams is probably Yoe Flash Wolves and if they do, will Parting play for them or Startale? Looking at skill and player counts, mYi shouldn't be overlooked. Jjakji, Stardust, Balloon, Kane, Rain, Sacsri. They could do it? | ||
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astray71
United States325 Posts
On December 11 2014 05:33 SC2Toastie wrote: Looking at skill and player counts, mYi shouldn't be overlooked. Jjakji, Stardust, Balloon, Kane, Rain, Sacsri. They could do it? Yeah, I forgot about them. I remembered just as I clicked Post and you posted this while I was editing lol | ||
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Anacreor
Netherlands291 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On December 11 2014 05:37 astray71 wrote: Yeah, I forgot about them. I remembered just as I clicked Post and you posted this while I was editing lol iirc Pengwin said mYi players didn't want to participate in PL | ||
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Liliputin
Czech Republic458 Posts
On December 11 2014 05:31 astray71 wrote: All of the kespa teams look small now =/ SKT has soO, INnoVation, Classic, and Dark KT has Zest, TY, Flash, and Stats Jin Air has Maru, sOs, Cure, and Rogue CJ has Bbyong, herO, and ByuL Samsung has Solar and Dear Prime has no one MVP has Marineking (who still has the Mvp curse of 2nd place) Startale has Life and maybe Parting if kespa lets him play. Proleague 2015 is going to be a global thing right? We know Team Liquid probably isn't playing with HerO going to play for MVP Acer probably isn't going to play with only 4 activate players (I've never seen Paranoid) Axiom is possible The only other teams that will be able to compete with the Kespa teams are probably mYinsanity with Jjakji, Rain, and Stardust and Yoe Flash Wolves with Leenock, San and Parting. Prime > MVP even with only 5 guys on their roster... MarineKing only viable player from MVP, can take a game, maybe YongHwa can beat TerrOr...  | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On December 11 2014 05:56 Liliputin wrote: Prime > MVP even with only 5 guys on their roster... MarineKing only viable player from MVP, can take a game, maybe YongHwa can beat TerrOr... Choya will make MVP a top4 team with ease, just like he turned MK into a top player (; | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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_TMT_
Vietnam114 Posts
On December 11 2014 05:31 astray71 wrote: All of the kespa teams look small now =/ SKT has soO, INnoVation, Classic, and Dark KT has Zest, TY, Flash, and Stats Jin Air has Maru, sOs, Cure, and Rogue CJ has Bbyong, herO, and ByuL Samsung has Solar and Dear Prime has no one MVP has Marineking (who still has the Mvp curse of 2nd place) Startale has Life and maybe Parting if kespa lets him play. Proleague 2015 is going to be a global thing right? We know Team Liquid probably isn't playing with HerO going to play for MVP Acer probably isn't going to play with only 4 activate players (I've never seen Paranoid) Axiom is possible The only other teams that will be able to compete with the Kespa teams are probably mYinsanity with Jjakji, Rain, and Stardust and Yoe Flash Wolves with Leenock, San and Parting. ST is with YFW now. That means ST/YFW has Life, Parting (if...), San, Leenock. EDIT: and Bomber too. And I find the stacking rolster thing irrelevant for proleague. Last year SKT could not pull it. And the semifinals were even matches. CJ/Jinair are not far behind. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19239 Posts
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Trius
Ukraine273 Posts
On December 11 2014 06:50 _TMT_ wrote: ST is with YFW now. That means ST/YFW has Life, Parting (if...), San, Leenock. They've also got Bomber. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10673 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8516 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
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Dragoonstorm7
United States599 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On December 11 2014 06:52 BisuDagger wrote: I spent the last year saying SKT wasn't championship caliber because they don't mesh well as a team like they did before SC2. Buying talent doesn't equal championships. Billowy could be a nice addition to the team in the same way KT has a nice supporting cast for all situations. Yeah, let's not forget how KT was at the beginning: Flash and protoss lieutenants. Look where they are now. We shouldn't dismiss players that aren't superstars (yet). | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
Hope oov can figure it out | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
Gratz Billowy | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On December 11 2014 14:08 Orcasgt24 wrote: I bet his application to the team was the video of his all killing of KT :p Gratz Billowy That's a fucking impressive argument when applicating at SKT.  | ||
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