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IEM Toronto 2014 - Power Rank! - Page 8

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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 28 2014 20:13 GMT
#141
Bunny too high
MC a bit too high
Scarlett a bit too low
Life way too low.

god shouldnt be part of rankings.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 21:07:24
August 28 2014 20:39 GMT
#142
Zest rank1?. He got nydused! And had quite a tough time with his GSL group. No way. Violet should be higher (he beat Hyun, the #1 player in the world!!!) and Stardust should be higher too.

Taeja will win this if his wrists are good.
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Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
August 28 2014 20:43 GMT
#143
OK, this is a sick list of players. It looks like a GSL world finals (emphasis on the world part), amazing!
fatalbino
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada11 Posts
August 28 2014 22:35 GMT
#144
On August 28 2014 18:42 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 17:38 fatalbino wrote:
I think Taeja should be first. He is by far one of the most consistent Starcraft II players in the world right now. Did you forget how recently Taeja 3-0'd Zest? He won the most recent IEM, Shenzhen, and came really close to winning the RedBull Detroit. I really think if you are going to rank someone it should be on recent results, not overall achievements.


Consistent because he doesn't play with the big boys in Korea anymore. He left Korea to win some money in Europe and America before retiring very soon™

Zest Flash $O$ and herO are more than a match for him and are rightly ranked above him.
Like Licther said in the rank, Polt's TvT is not even said to be that good and he rolled Taeja in the final. Also if you look at who they beat to get there to the final of that tournament....

He is a good player, no question. But is he better than the 4 people above him. No not for me he isn't.


You make it sound like just because Taeja has moved out of Korea he hasn't been playing top tier Koreans. He's beaten Zest, Solar, Innovation, rain, life (too many times to count), sOs, etc. multiple times.

And it's completely unfair to say Taeja isn't doing well because he didn't win every single tournament he entered in. Oh he lost in the finals against Polt? Polt's tvt sucks? Taeja must be in a slump. Taeja lost a map to hendralisk? Wow he should have 2-0'd him, what a scrub.

The fact that in the most recent IEM tournament Taeja bested Zest 3-0 tells me that Taeja should be above Zest in the ranking. It's sad that people keep dismissing it as just "zest not himself, he is usually much better". People often forget when players make mistakes, it's because the opponent forces it out of them.
Terran for life <3
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
August 29 2014 02:39 GMT
#145
On August 29 2014 07:35 fatalbino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 18:42 Pandemona wrote:
On August 28 2014 17:38 fatalbino wrote:
I think Taeja should be first. He is by far one of the most consistent Starcraft II players in the world right now. Did you forget how recently Taeja 3-0'd Zest? He won the most recent IEM, Shenzhen, and came really close to winning the RedBull Detroit. I really think if you are going to rank someone it should be on recent results, not overall achievements.


Consistent because he doesn't play with the big boys in Korea anymore. He left Korea to win some money in Europe and America before retiring very soon™

Zest Flash $O$ and herO are more than a match for him and are rightly ranked above him.
Like Licther said in the rank, Polt's TvT is not even said to be that good and he rolled Taeja in the final. Also if you look at who they beat to get there to the final of that tournament....

He is a good player, no question. But is he better than the 4 people above him. No not for me he isn't.


You make it sound like just because Taeja has moved out of Korea he hasn't been playing top tier Koreans. He's beaten Zest, Solar, Innovation, rain, life (too many times to count), sOs, etc. multiple times.


In 2014, he...actually hasn't. Outside of the Zest series and beating Life a few times (whose form has been sporadic ever since HoTS came out), he barely beat Solar, traded series with Inno, lost to sOs, Action, and Dear (I'll ignore the losses to the likes of Pigbaby just like I'll ignore the beatings he gave to the foreign Koreans and foreigners during this time).

So, no, he hasn't played Koreans still training for the GSL that often in tournaments these past months. However, no one is saying that Taeja isn't a top 5 Terran right now or anything like that, but the person you're responding to was responding to another person saying that Taeja should #1 in these rankings based on recent results, and that's highly questionable.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 29 2014 03:20 GMT
#146
This has the potential to be a great weekend.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 29 2014 03:45 GMT
#147
That Jer section hahha.
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fatalbino
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada11 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 03:46:29
August 29 2014 03:45 GMT
#148
x
Terran for life <3
fatalbino
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada11 Posts
August 29 2014 03:52 GMT
#149
On August 29 2014 11:39 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 07:35 fatalbino wrote:
On August 28 2014 18:42 Pandemona wrote:
On August 28 2014 17:38 fatalbino wrote:
I think Taeja should be first. He is by far one of the most consistent Starcraft II players in the world right now. Did you forget how recently Taeja 3-0'd Zest? He won the most recent IEM, Shenzhen, and came really close to winning the RedBull Detroit. I really think if you are going to rank someone it should be on recent results, not overall achievements.


Consistent because he doesn't play with the big boys in Korea anymore. He left Korea to win some money in Europe and America before retiring very soon™

Zest Flash $O$ and herO are more than a match for him and are rightly ranked above him.
Like Licther said in the rank, Polt's TvT is not even said to be that good and he rolled Taeja in the final. Also if you look at who they beat to get there to the final of that tournament....

He is a good player, no question. But is he better than the 4 people above him. No not for me he isn't.


You make it sound like just because Taeja has moved out of Korea he hasn't been playing top tier Koreans. He's beaten Zest, Solar, Innovation, rain, life (too many times to count), sOs, etc. multiple times.


In 2014, he...actually hasn't. Outside of the Zest series and beating Life a few times (whose form has been sporadic ever since HoTS came out), he barely beat Solar, traded series with Inno, lost to sOs, Action, and Dear (I'll ignore the losses to the likes of Pigbaby just like I'll ignore the beatings he gave to the foreign Koreans and foreigners during this time).

So, no, he hasn't played Koreans still training for the GSL that often in tournaments these past months. However, no one is saying that Taeja isn't a top 5 Terran right now or anything like that, but the person you're responding to was responding to another person saying that Taeja should #1 in these rankings based on recent results, and that's highly questionable.


Yea so.... I just made a long ass reply to this comment and then it didn't go through for some reason. But anyways to recap...

The players I had listed, Taeja beat the majority of them in 2014 (with the exception of sOs and rain). Go look at liquipedia, a more reliable source. (I actually listed out each win but I am too lazy to do it again).

And to dismiss Taeja's wins versus top level Koreans (Innovation, Zest, and Solar), that of which are all in the Ro16 in the current GSL, just because he lost to pigbaby, a Korean, who went on to win WCS america season 2, is just plain ridiculous.

FYI: I did respond to the right person as I was the one who said Taeja should be #1. However, that is just my opinion. The author of this article has his own, I respect that.
Terran for life <3
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 29 2014 04:20 GMT
#150
JD is pretty high up there considering his recent results... I may be biased since I saw + Show Spoiler [IEM DAY 1 spoiler] +
that HuK 2-0'd him
but I don't think nostalgia should bring him so high up the rank.
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PassionFruit
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 04:31:28
August 29 2014 04:29 GMT
#151
That Flash writeup. I remember when he was fucking pwnface in broodwar. No one in sc2 has dominated the scene like Flash in bw during his peak. Half the players would cheese against him because they knew they'd get pwned in a straight up match. And they'd lose to 14cc anyway, lol. Summer of Taeja? What the fuck is this shit, give me a break.

Flash hype!
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
August 29 2014 04:39 GMT
#152
zest 1st will prove so wrong
And taeja below flash, no way.
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 04:45:49
August 29 2014 04:44 GMT
#153
On August 29 2014 11:39 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 07:35 fatalbino wrote:
On August 28 2014 18:42 Pandemona wrote:
On August 28 2014 17:38 fatalbino wrote:
I think Taeja should be first. He is by far one of the most consistent Starcraft II players in the world right now. Did you forget how recently Taeja 3-0'd Zest? He won the most recent IEM, Shenzhen, and came really close to winning the RedBull Detroit. I really think if you are going to rank someone it should be on recent results, not overall achievements.


Consistent because he doesn't play with the big boys in Korea anymore. He left Korea to win some money in Europe and America before retiring very soon™

Zest Flash $O$ and herO are more than a match for him and are rightly ranked above him.
Like Licther said in the rank, Polt's TvT is not even said to be that good and he rolled Taeja in the final. Also if you look at who they beat to get there to the final of that tournament....

He is a good player, no question. But is he better than the 4 people above him. No not for me he isn't.


You make it sound like just because Taeja has moved out of Korea he hasn't been playing top tier Koreans. He's beaten Zest, Solar, Innovation, rain, life (too many times to count), sOs, etc. multiple times.


In 2014, he...actually hasn't. Outside of the Zest series and beating Life a few times (whose form has been sporadic ever since HoTS came out), he barely beat Solar, traded series with Inno, lost to sOs, Action, and Dear (I'll ignore the losses to the likes of Pigbaby just like I'll ignore the beatings he gave to the foreign Koreans and foreigners during this time).

So, no, he hasn't played Koreans still training for the GSL that often in tournaments these past months. However, no one is saying that Taeja isn't a top 5 Terran right now or anything like that, but the person you're responding to was responding to another person saying that Taeja should #1 in these rankings based on recent results, and that's highly questionable.

Your data is not correct for one thing.
Taeja apparent only lost to all the Protoss with a larger portion attribution to the patch. No one won Protoss at that point in case you didn't notice.
A close series to solar? Don't you know solar 3:0 innovation just moment before? Not to mention both in GSL Ro 16 now.
The GSL hype is not because their player is definitely better, it's just they have more top players which make it so hard.
To sum up, no way taeja not in top 2
XXTN
Profile Joined June 2011
United States124 Posts
August 29 2014 04:45 GMT
#154
Polt deserves to be higher. He's super smart and consistently does really well.

Flash hasn't really proven to be a weekender type of guy where he has to adjust on the fly. He strikes me as the type whose main strength is in preparing for a specific match (i.e proleague).
Writer@TL_XXTN
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 05:39:38
August 29 2014 05:38 GMT
#155
Life too low, looks like writers didn't do their research
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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 29 2014 06:09 GMT
#156
SOS and hero way too high up, good flash writeup though
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
August 29 2014 09:21 GMT
#157
This is gonna be a bad ass tourney that I will not watch a single freaking second of!!!!!


FML work...FML
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
August 29 2014 10:19 GMT
#158
can the brackets shake out for an all KT finals? that would be a great series.
Loccstana
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States833 Posts
August 29 2014 10:27 GMT
#159
Ourk has a 1/3000000 chance of qualifying 0.o
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 29 2014 12:18 GMT
#160
On August 29 2014 19:19 negativedge wrote:
can the brackets shake out for an all KT finals? that would be a great series.


I dunno, Zest just immortal busted Flash twice in the IEM qualifier. Twas pretty bad D:
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