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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 21 2014 21:17 GMT
#41
You shouldn't be surprised to see a gaming organization with no money anymore guys. This is esport we are talking about. One day, they'll release some "exciting good news" ahead. The next day, that news will be that the team have learned a lot in the past and it was a good experience for the players but it is time to move on to the "next chapter".
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 21:50:07
August 21 2014 21:46 GMT
#42
On August 22 2014 05:37 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 05:31 Zealously wrote:
On August 21 2014 23:31 Ovid wrote:
On August 21 2014 23:20 brickrd wrote:
On August 21 2014 23:19 DinoMight wrote:
On August 21 2014 23:15 brickrd wrote:
On August 21 2014 23:14 Ovid wrote:
On August 21 2014 22:45 shid0x wrote:
Recruiting international players would maybe help sponsors decision ^^ ( Don't wanna be rude but a full korean team is pretty bad marketing wise except in korea itself )


All a sponsor cares about is exposure, unless that sponsor is a SC2 fan and wants his region to be better supported then having some international players isn't going to make a difference.

Startale doesn't get that much exposure as current, the only player that usually is in the limelight is life unless they join a regular league they wont get any consistent exposure.

hes saying foreign sponsors would have more interest in a team with foreign players because foreign demographics tend to be more interested in foreign players o_O


If you want a foreign sponsor, you need to give them a reason to sponsor you. Foreign companies want to make sure that by sponsoring you they will reach their target demo. An all-Korean line-up that doesn't travel much outside Korea and gets little exposure won't help this.

That's what he's trying to say.

thats... exactly what i just said


ST should just join proleague and be done with it, I know some of their players (Life) probably want to play more foreign tournaments than be bogged down with one but it provides financial stability


Life might (might) leave Startale if he finds his freedom restricted by Proleague commitments. It's not "just join Proleague" if the players leave when it happens.


Is that something sourceable or just a personal opinion?


I talk to him occasionally (issues that stem from broken English included) and I get the feeling that he enjoys freedom of travel a great deal more than many players in Korea. If he's not on a top team, I wouldn't be surprised if he considers the ability to go overseas more valuable than playing in PL.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
August 21 2014 21:52 GMT
#43
On August 22 2014 06:17 Xiphos wrote:
You shouldn't be surprised to see a gaming organization with no money anymore guys. This is esport we are talking about.

Funny thing is that this begun with sc2. BW and WC3 had alot more money (especially before banking crises 2008). From all EU/US teams, that had wc3 roster before sc2, only EG was able NOT to go a step down. Examples? Fnatic had a full korean roster, mouz had two top10 worldwide players etc

banking crises 2008 hitted pretty hard to wc3, I remember that all of top25 worldwide players were teamless for at least 1month at the same time.
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eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
August 21 2014 22:18 GMT
#44
On August 22 2014 06:46 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 05:37 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On August 22 2014 05:31 Zealously wrote:
On August 21 2014 23:31 Ovid wrote:
On August 21 2014 23:20 brickrd wrote:
On August 21 2014 23:19 DinoMight wrote:
On August 21 2014 23:15 brickrd wrote:
On August 21 2014 23:14 Ovid wrote:
On August 21 2014 22:45 shid0x wrote:
Recruiting international players would maybe help sponsors decision ^^ ( Don't wanna be rude but a full korean team is pretty bad marketing wise except in korea itself )


All a sponsor cares about is exposure, unless that sponsor is a SC2 fan and wants his region to be better supported then having some international players isn't going to make a difference.

Startale doesn't get that much exposure as current, the only player that usually is in the limelight is life unless they join a regular league they wont get any consistent exposure.

hes saying foreign sponsors would have more interest in a team with foreign players because foreign demographics tend to be more interested in foreign players o_O


If you want a foreign sponsor, you need to give them a reason to sponsor you. Foreign companies want to make sure that by sponsoring you they will reach their target demo. An all-Korean line-up that doesn't travel much outside Korea and gets little exposure won't help this.

That's what he's trying to say.

thats... exactly what i just said


ST should just join proleague and be done with it, I know some of their players (Life) probably want to play more foreign tournaments than be bogged down with one but it provides financial stability


Life might (might) leave Startale if he finds his freedom restricted by Proleague commitments. It's not "just join Proleague" if the players leave when it happens.


Is that something sourceable or just a personal opinion?


I talk to him occasionally (issues that stem from broken English included) and I get the feeling that he enjoys freedom of travel a great deal more than many players in Korea. If he's not on a top team, I wouldn't be surprised if he considers the ability to go overseas more valuable than playing in PL.

Oversea tournaments are starting to become overrated. With about 10k winnings (for first place) per premier tournament and only about 20 (not including WCS) of those in a year. Unless you're Taeja, it's really hard to get stable earnings from it. Many code B koreans are getting slaughtered by top foreigners. And the KR qualifiers for each tournament is brutal as it is often stacked with code S players. I still feel the smarter thing to do is join a kespa team, participate in proleague, maintain/improve skill level, slowly work your way up and hopefully win a WCS event (or get 2nd place 3 times in a row). And with some of the bigger proleague teams, foreign tournaments is not out of reach given that players qualify.
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VVeForever
Profile Joined November 2012
United States75 Posts
August 21 2014 22:32 GMT
#45
CJ Entus Life pls!
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 21 2014 22:44 GMT
#46
You and everyone else I'm afraid.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 02:20:24
August 22 2014 00:29 GMT
#47
On August 22 2014 07:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You and everyone else I'm afraid.


DIdn't Prime find just recently find a new Sponsor?

And all the other KeSPA teams other than IM who are basically a corpse rotting away in some corner right now seem to be doing reasonable fine!

Also there is this one team, they are all Koreans, but they somehow got foreign sponsorship, they already produce one really funny video for their sponsor! I wish I could tell you to check it out, I just kinda forgot the name, something with math I think!!!

It seems that Korean teams outside of KeSPA can't really do anything in a Korean market, or really find any sponsors unless they got the church backing them
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 22 2014 00:38 GMT
#48
On August 22 2014 09:29 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 07:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You and everyone else I'm afraid.


DIdn't find just recently find a new Sponsor?



To replace our old sponsor which we lost to EG. Gimme 2 more and we can talk about maybe breaking even.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
August 22 2014 01:41 GMT
#49
On August 22 2014 09:38 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 09:29 Arvendilin wrote:
On August 22 2014 07:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You and everyone else I'm afraid.


DIdn't find just recently find a new Sponsor?



To replace our old sponsor which we lost to EG. Gimme 2 more and we can talk about maybe breaking even.


need a lol team
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 02:03:23
August 22 2014 02:02 GMT
#50
On August 22 2014 10:41 negativedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 09:38 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On August 22 2014 09:29 Arvendilin wrote:
On August 22 2014 07:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You and everyone else I'm afraid.


DIdn't find just recently find a new Sponsor?



To replace our old sponsor which we lost to EG. Gimme 2 more and we can talk about maybe breaking even.


need a lol team


does TB look like a whore to you? I'm kidding of course but that's unfortunetly true. I wish Starcraft could pull the same sponsors it once did but those darn F2P games man...
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 22 2014 02:17 GMT
#51
Not the best way to look for sponsors.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
August 22 2014 02:22 GMT
#52
On August 22 2014 09:38 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 09:29 Arvendilin wrote:
On August 22 2014 07:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You and everyone else I'm afraid.


DIdn't find just recently find a new Sponsor?



To replace our old sponsor which we lost to EG. Gimme 2 more and we can talk about maybe breaking even.


I know I know, Also I was to stupid to write Prime in there, I meant Prime jsut found a new Sponsor!

So the first part which you addressed was not about Axiom but about Prime, the second part was me trying to be funny and horribly failing ^-^

Its 3 am I hope you excuse my inability to not fuck up! <3
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 22 2014 02:37 GMT
#53
On August 22 2014 10:41 negativedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 09:38 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On August 22 2014 09:29 Arvendilin wrote:
On August 22 2014 07:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You and everyone else I'm afraid.


DIdn't find just recently find a new Sponsor?



To replace our old sponsor which we lost to EG. Gimme 2 more and we can talk about maybe breaking even.


need a lol team


Would never support a game I don't like or a company that has lied to me.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
August 22 2014 11:35 GMT
#54
Oh man, this is just like the ZeNEX one, but way less adorable
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