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BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 02:14:05
June 04 2014 02:02 GMT
#101
On June 04 2014 04:25 Niko_Thien wrote:
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On June 04 2014 04:24 Squat wrote:
I am totally shocked and appalled by this utterly unforeseen turn of events. I am also confident that everyone involved will be compensated fully within a reasonable period of time.

I mean how much longer are we going to be bedazzled by the same hucksters pulling the same old stunt?

Any bets on how long GEM and Abuzu 2.0 will last?

It's Korea. One must ask the question, "Will azubu get KeSPA's support?" before we can really say anything about that. I also want to point out that everything made in Korea - in general - is stable due to the monopoly-like economy.
On June 04 2014 10:53 lichter wrote:
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On June 04 2014 06:23 Dodgin wrote:
Free Terry.


[image loading]

I'm with these guys.

Terry got paid Jack and shit just as Jack left town at NASL. While I understand that not everyone can actually do something like this unpaid, especially post-university years, that shows real passion. Real love for what you do.

The guys at ESGN, well, they love what they do, but I imagine all of them are now beyond their university years. They have no viable way of doing stuff for free for extended periods of time any more.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
June 04 2014 02:15 GMT
#102
I like how they said "We had no choice but to shut down.". Really? How hard is it to make sure you don't overspend on hiring employees, prize money and studio costs. Ugh it pisses me off how dumb some of these start up esport companies are. It really isn't that hard to figure out a budget plan that you can handle and not rely on imaginary money you think you'll make to cover costs. It was never that "We had no choice but to shut down." it was their own stupidity from the beginning that led to this not because they didn't have a choice. This is just disgusting and shitty for all those who won't get paid.
JD, need I say more? :D
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
June 04 2014 02:25 GMT
#103
On June 04 2014 04:21 Niko_Thien wrote:
Oh yeah.."people will be paid" :D Does anyone actually believe this at this point?


people will get laid paid...
this will be another "thank you" scenario...
-
ZachFreeman
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia484 Posts
June 04 2014 02:26 GMT
#104
Who would have thought?
GIVE ME COMMAND
Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
June 04 2014 02:43 GMT
#105
In a move, supposedly to ensure that no equipment was taken, the studio was just locked and no-one informed. Staff turned up to the studio only to find their access denied.

LOOOOOL this is just hilarious to be honest. I mean, it sucks for the people involved, but... wow. What a mess!
Towelie.635
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
June 04 2014 03:31 GMT
#106
well its good to know they had a solid business model that was able to see them through a whole three months of content production before going belly up.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 04 2014 03:59 GMT
#107
This quote sums everything up perfectly

"Honest answer is we haven't put much thought into this," Reichert said.
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sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
June 04 2014 04:16 GMT
#108
On June 04 2014 04:38 ahswtini wrote:
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On June 04 2014 04:35 ssxsilver wrote:
I take it all the people who moved to Germany are gonna have to pay their own flights back =/...

May be the least of their worries - will they even have anything to go back to

they have experiences to put into their resume, and future employers will recruit them out of sympathy
'worked for clauf and abuzu, that notorious paper company that scammed me and others of months of salary'
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
June 04 2014 04:18 GMT
#109
On June 04 2014 13:16 sharky246 wrote:
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On June 04 2014 04:38 ahswtini wrote:
On June 04 2014 04:35 ssxsilver wrote:
I take it all the people who moved to Germany are gonna have to pay their own flights back =/...

May be the least of their worries - will they even have anything to go back to

they have experiences to put into their resume, and future employers will recruit them out of sympathy
'worked for clauf and abuzu, that notorious paper company that scammed me and others of months of salary'


Displays loyalty too. It sends them a message that "Wow so even if my payment to their salaries comes a bit late, they wouldn't make complaints about it and just plow through their works. Those people have great work ethics."
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 04 2014 05:48 GMT
#110
On June 04 2014 06:26 tree.hugger wrote:
I'm sad for the folks who moved to Germany to pursue their passion. I guess I never really believed Clauf was a legitimate organization, so part of me feels that if people were naive enough to believe in Clauf, they deserved it. But I know that's not a good way to think about it. Taking risks to pursue your passion is to be commended, not ridiculed. That's how great things get started, from business to art to sports. It's something that all of the top Sc2 players in the world have done. I just hope that everyone who signed up with Clauf made sure they were taking a risk that they could afford to take. I'm not confident that was the case though.


Let's be fair, though. When a known crook shows up at your door and offers you your dream job on a plate and you take it, that's not following a dream, that's taking a shortcut and hoping it somehow works out in the end.

That is not how great things start.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10888 Posts
June 04 2014 05:51 GMT
#111
On June 04 2014 12:59 jmbthirteen wrote:
This quote sums everything up perfectly

Show nested quote +
"Honest answer is we haven't put much thought into this," Reichert said.

lol. Feel sorry for all the people tied into all this mess....wish the staff the best of luck in getting paid.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 04 2014 06:31 GMT
#112
On June 04 2014 04:25 Niko_Thien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 04:24 Squat wrote:
I am totally shocked and appalled by this utterly unforeseen turn of events. I am also confident that everyone involved will be compensated fully within a reasonable period of time.

I mean how much longer are we going to be bedazzled by the same hucksters pulling the same old stunt?

Any bets on how long GEM and Abuzu 2.0 will last?


CLG already left Azubu for Twitch and they were the first ones to join Azubu. Right now Curse and GEM are keeping Azubu alive but that's it.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 04 2014 08:37 GMT
#113
I don't see how GEM could help papa Azubu to stay alive. GEM lives on Clauf stamps too.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 23:20:28
June 04 2014 23:20 GMT
#114
ahahahahaahahahaahhahahah oh god hahaha

PLEASE FNATIC DITCH ABUZU
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
June 06 2014 19:36 GMT
#115
Anyone else here see this coming the minute you saw their studio set?

Poor Frodan. Poor Chance.

So, when do we see the next incarnation?
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
June 06 2014 19:45 GMT
#116
On June 07 2014 04:36 felisconcolori wrote:
Anyone else here see this coming the minute you saw their studio set?

Poor Frodan. Poor Chance.

So, when do we see the next incarnation?

But they will continue, they still got their amazing ESGN Points system left, which absolutely amazing and will help to unify the esports scene <3
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
June 06 2014 20:30 GMT
#117
On June 07 2014 04:36 felisconcolori wrote:
Anyone else here see this coming the minute you saw their studio set?

Poor Frodan. Poor Chance.

So, when do we see the next incarnation?


According to what Richard Lewis said on the latest episode of Live on Three, they are discussing two options for ESGN atm:
a) Get a new studio that is smaller and less expensive and basically try again.
b) Become a "TV channel" for Azubu.tv with 24/7 content.

So I guess either of those options will be the next incarnation. I just feel really really sorry for all those who were desperate enough to work in eSports to take a job with ESGN. I just hope eSports will eventually get to the point where shit like this will finally stop happening. I mean anyone could tell after 1 episode of Fight Night that they were spending way too much money.
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
June 06 2014 23:38 GMT
#118
On June 07 2014 05:30 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 04:36 felisconcolori wrote:
Anyone else here see this coming the minute you saw their studio set?

Poor Frodan. Poor Chance.

So, when do we see the next incarnation?


According to what Richard Lewis said on the latest episode of Live on Three, they are discussing two options for ESGN atm:
a) Get a new studio that is smaller and less expensive and basically try again.
b) Become a "TV channel" for Azubu.tv with 24/7 content.

So I guess either of those options will be the next incarnation. I just feel really really sorry for all those who were desperate enough to work in eSports to take a job with ESGN. I just hope eSports will eventually get to the point where shit like this will finally stop happening. I mean anyone could tell after 1 episode of Fight Night that they were spending way too much money.

Who wants to watch a 24/7 esports stream in the first place? I mean thats one of the great advantages of the internet with tons of streams, VODs etc to choose from - you can make your own tv programm without relying on some "TV" channel. Don't think such a concept will ever work out.
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
June 07 2014 17:51 GMT
#119
On June 07 2014 08:38 Niko_Thien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 05:30 Lorch wrote:
On June 07 2014 04:36 felisconcolori wrote:
Anyone else here see this coming the minute you saw their studio set?

Poor Frodan. Poor Chance.

So, when do we see the next incarnation?


According to what Richard Lewis said on the latest episode of Live on Three, they are discussing two options for ESGN atm:
a) Get a new studio that is smaller and less expensive and basically try again.
b) Become a "TV channel" for Azubu.tv with 24/7 content.

So I guess either of those options will be the next incarnation. I just feel really really sorry for all those who were desperate enough to work in eSports to take a job with ESGN. I just hope eSports will eventually get to the point where shit like this will finally stop happening. I mean anyone could tell after 1 episode of Fight Night that they were spending way too much money.

Who wants to watch a 24/7 esports stream in the first place? I mean thats one of the great advantages of the internet with tons of streams, VODs etc to choose from - you can make your own tv programm without relying on some "TV" channel. Don't think such a concept will ever work out.


I dunno, but I still miss IPL running their content 24/7 with cycling events and repeats. I mean, sometimes I don't want to go looking for something to watch or listen to in the background, but I knew that they would just about always have something good running on their stream that I probably hadn't seen because of my work schedule. It's like TV - yeah, a lot of people can find what they want to watch via DVD/BluRay, streaming netflix, hulu, whatever... but when you don't have a specific show you want to watch, you can just turn it on and run through channels until you find something. You can almost do the same thing with Twitch in general, but the quality varies.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
June 07 2014 17:57 GMT
#120
ESGN had such good ideas and really many talents. It was very enjoyable.
Still it is a perfect example how even a decent product can fail if PR/marketing is not good enough. :/
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