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WCS America - Ro32 Group G Preview (Season 2)

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WCS America - Ro32 Group G Preview (Season 2)

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June 3rd, 2014 13:57 GMT
2014 WCS

WCS America Season 2
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Ro32: Group G Preview

(T)Polt, (Z)Courage, (T)MajOr, (P)MacSed
Countdown:


by Darkhorse

In yesterday's Group F, TooDming became the first foreigner to reach the Ro16 after eleven straight Korean advancements here in WCS America Season 2. Now you could say things like, "There were three foreigners in the group so one had to get out," but hey – a win's a win.

Today's group is another one of those three foreigner groups with two Chinese players in MacSed and Courage battling the Mexican Terran MajOr to see who will be the next foreigner to advance into the Ro16. With Polt in the group, it is likely to be a battle for second place, but of course all three of the others would like to book their trips to LA for the live portion of the tournament.

The heavy favorite in the group has to be the Tactical Genius and sorta-American (T)CMStorm.Polt. While his hopes of a WCS America three-peat were dashed by his teammate Revival in last season's quarterfinals, Polt is still a threat to take the WCS crown in any season. It bears repeating that Polt is the only two time WCS champion across all regions, and should take a Korean-less group with relative ease.

Of course, this does not mean that Polt is completely safe. As players like HerO and Jaedong can attest to, no one is safe in WCS America, even if they are multi-premier tournament winners. Polt doesn't necessarily have a "weak" matchup, or at least a matchup that would qualify as "weak" for the average SC2 progamer, but his TvZ has looked relatively weak since his loss to Revival in last season's Ro8. He subsequently was beaten down 4-2 by Jaedong in the finals of LSC3 and has lost important matches in online qualifiers to the likes of viOLet and Armani. If Polt can get over the TvZ hump in his first match of the night, he should most likely come out on top in this group.

The Chinese Zerg (Z)ZOO.Courage will be the first player to challenge Captain America. Much like the other Chinese players, he doesn't offer us much data to go on as far as predicting his placement. Last season his ascension through WCS America stalled in Challenger as he drew one of the toughest opponents he could have in Axiom's Alicia and lost 1-3. This season he managed to 3-0 TheStC to advance to Premier, but that doesn't say much considering TheStC had been in poor form for some time and actually announced his retirement immediately following his loss in the match.

The Chinese Zergs always seem to bring interesting builds to the table, and Courage will no doubt be looking to follow the footsteps of his Zerg teammate TooDming who advanced last night. The opening match will be an incredible challenge for Courage, as Polt's TvZ mixes brilliant micro with great multi tasking. If Courage hopes to win, he will likely have to put the pressure on Polt early and not let him get comfortable. Should he lose his first match, he has a huge mountain to climb, as MajOr is no slouch in the matchup either and Courage currently holds a dismal 1-8 record against MacSed in streamed matches.

Always one of the strongest players in the NA, (T)MajOr is now one of two remaining North American hopes to make the Ro16 of Premier League. The interesting thing here is that (dare I say it?) MajOr seems like a reasonable candidate to advance here. He seems to be in good form as he has carried Mexico into the Semifinals of Nation Wars II over strong opponents Finland and Canada and beat down KingKong 3-0 in Challenger to make it back to Premier. He had a tragic Season 1, in which he won his opening set in a shocking upset over Taeja but fell to CranK in the winner's match and lost the rematch to Taeja to fall out of Premier. He will no doubt be glad to avoid another three Korean group, and will be looking to improve on his Ro32 finish last season.

MajOr He had a disappointing showing at LSC3, but he can make up for that and more by advancing here. The young foreign Terrans Neeb and MaSa were halted; the old guard of qxc and Illusion fell just the same. Can MajOr surpass them all and be the first American in the Ro16?

Not if (P)iG.MacSed has anything to say about it! The Chinese Protoss has, believe it or not, been one of the more consistent players in WCS America (a region where consistency is hard to come by). Last year he impressed by achieving two straight Ro8's in WCS, a feat not matched by any other foreigner. Last season he once again advanced to the offline portion with a win over his Ro32 group, but then fell flat in the Ro16 with hard losses to both Taeja and TooDming. MacSed hasn't missed the offline portion of the tournament in three straight seasons, showing that he really seems to handle the online Ro32 well.

As usual with the Chinese players, it is hard to discern what kind of form MacSed is currently in. He has been a workhorse for iG in the Acer Teamstory Cup this season, where he currently holds a so-so 11-10 record. Other than that and a few Chinese cups, MacSed has been pretty quiet since Season 1. MacSed truly plays his own game, relying mostly on timing attacks and colossus builds in PvT and a wide array of two base aggression in his PvZ. His strong head to head record against Courage should give him confidence should the two meet, but his chances against the Terrans are harder to assess.

Overall Thoughts and Prediction:

Please. Polt is Captain America, the two time champ, and one of the biggest stars in the SC2 scene today. He can't possibly lose here, right? The melee to grab the second spot in the group should be brutal, but MacSed seems to be the most consistent and solid of the remaining three. Unfortunately for MajOr, I foresee him playing excellently but falling out of the group in a heartbreak loss. I'd like to see him prove me wrong, but I am calling yet another group going by without an American advancing past the first round.

Polt > Courage
MacSed < MajOr
Polt > MajOr
Courage < MacSed
MajOr < MacSed

(T)Polt and (P)MacSed advance.

Writers: Darkhorse.
Photos: ESL.
Editors: Waxangel.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
June 03 2014 14:23 GMT
#2
Polt is practically American, Major is mejor por Mexico
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 03 2014 14:43 GMT
#3
Polt, MajOr
Chylvain
Profile Joined July 2012
France43 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 15:29:29
June 03 2014 14:54 GMT
#4
Polt > Polt
Polt <Polt
Polt > Polt
Polt < Polt
Polt < Polt

Polt & Polt advance
"No GG, No Skill", that's why I never say "gg".
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 03 2014 15:05 GMT
#5
Polt > Polt
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
June 03 2014 15:24 GMT
#6
GOGO Polt!

And MajOr too!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
June 03 2014 15:37 GMT
#7
I'm sad I won't be able to see Polt destroy this group tonight, but I'm sure he will make quick work of things.

Also, interesting to see Darkhoarse predicting the traditional WCS AM trend of players meeting in the final match as a rematch with different results. Let's see how it all plays out, but I bet MacSed beats Major twice.
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TheFlock
Profile Joined September 2011
United States389 Posts
June 03 2014 15:38 GMT
#8
No offense to the chinese players as it is awesome getting to see them compete, but POLTTTTT and I hope MajOr makes it as well because Terran and 'MERICA :D
Maru | DeMusliM | TLO
tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
June 03 2014 15:45 GMT
#9
Polt and Major ftw
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
June 03 2014 15:47 GMT
#10
Polt and Courage plz!
Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
June 03 2014 15:49 GMT
#11
The script for Major is somehow misplaced XD
He is supposed to beat a Korean terran in the first match, then lose the winner's match, before he finally get beaten by the the Korean terran in the decider match.
This scenario had happened in our previous WCS AM.............for 3 consecutive seasons......XD

For Chinese player...
People all know (P)MacSed's style. He would not use storm as long as there is lag/spike.
And (Z)Courage.... His style is not that kind of what TooDming does.
TooDming likes performing different builds while possesses a strong macro/micro (when he stays calm)

On the other hand, what Courage likes to do is..........ONE thing: ROACH push
ROACH ROACH ROACH...........
chairmobile
Profile Joined July 2013
United States111 Posts
June 03 2014 15:56 GMT
#12
Go Polt! USA USA!
The game is balanced. We just suck.
Tibbroar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States161 Posts
June 03 2014 16:07 GMT
#13
WCS AmeriPolt!
I will always believe in the fallen king.
Varroth
Profile Joined April 2014
Sweden471 Posts
June 03 2014 16:11 GMT
#14
Why do people say Polt is american? Is it like with people from like Scotland,England that moved to america before inventing things and now americans go like ''It's an american invention!!''
Top10 favorite players: 1. Jaedong 2. Naniwa 3. Maru 4. ThorZaIN 5. Taeja 6. HerO 7. MC 8. Hyun 9. Soulkey 10. herO
scotch4789
Profile Joined July 2013
United States42 Posts
June 03 2014 16:11 GMT
#15
On June 04 2014 00:49 freeamount wrote:
The script for Major is somehow misplaced XD
He is supposed to beat a Korean terran in the first match, then lose the winner's match, before he finally get beaten by the the Korean terran in the decider match.
This scenario had happened in our previous WCS AM.............for 3 consecutive seasons......XD


Oh wow, I didn't realize that happened 3 times in a row! What are the odds of that?!?!
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
June 03 2014 16:23 GMT
#16
On June 04 2014 00:49 freeamount wrote:
On the other hand, what Courage likes to do is..........ONE thing: ROACH push
ROACH ROACH ROACH...........


Indeed. There's a ridiculous amount of data on Courage's play. And as you say, only one word on his scouting report: Roach.
Meh
Tibbroar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States161 Posts
June 03 2014 16:28 GMT
#17
On June 04 2014 01:11 Varroth wrote:
Why do people say Polt is american? Is it like with people from like Scotland,England that moved to america before inventing things and now americans go like ''It's an american invention!!''

Don't be silly, Polt isn't American. We're all Poltian.
I will always believe in the fallen king.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
June 03 2014 16:33 GMT
#18
Polt got this in the bag easy peasy.
Flash | Mvp
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
June 03 2014 16:42 GMT
#19
Polt will 2-0, 2-1. Because He'll play Major who will get a game off him in Winners.
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
Rikudou
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany151 Posts
June 03 2014 17:09 GMT
#20
i think you underrestimate Major
Is this real Life? No, it's StartaleLife!!!
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
June 03 2014 18:04 GMT
#21
On June 04 2014 01:11 Varroth wrote:
Why do people say Polt is american? Is it like with people from like Scotland,England that moved to america before inventing things and now americans go like ''It's an american invention!!''

I believe Americans "adopted" him after he started to study/live in USA (Texas I believe). In addition, it was just an easy way for USA to have a tournament-winning player! Obviously, no one seriously thinks of him as an American, it's just a joke.
iViNtaGe
Profile Joined July 2012
United States254 Posts
June 03 2014 19:28 GMT
#22
POLTU!
Favorite Players: Bomber | Maru | Life | PartinG | InnoVation | Bbyong
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
June 03 2014 19:32 GMT
#23
On June 04 2014 03:04 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 01:11 Varroth wrote:
Why do people say Polt is american? Is it like with people from like Scotland,England that moved to america before inventing things and now americans go like ''It's an american invention!!''

I believe Americans "adopted" him after he started to study/live in USA (Texas I believe). In addition, it was just an easy way for USA to have a tournament-winning player! Obviously, no one seriously thinks of him as an American, it's just a joke.


It's not a joke. He is American.

Bet he gets naturalized within 2 years.
IMMVP // HIKARU NAKAMURA // DEREK JETER // GARETH BALE
zEEzz
Profile Joined October 2012
93 Posts
June 03 2014 19:38 GMT
#24
macsed > major
major > macsed

dude i love that logic
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
June 03 2014 19:46 GMT
#25
Can't quite agree on the Major > MacSed, despite Major being in a monstrous form..

Will surely be good games tonight though
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
AKAvg
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil298 Posts
June 03 2014 21:42 GMT
#26
On June 04 2014 04:38 zEEzz wrote:
macsed > major
major > macsed

dude i love that logic


Lol, just realized that.
Call it 50/50
FoolSC
Profile Joined June 2014
United Kingdom11 Posts
June 03 2014 23:21 GMT
#27
Gogo Major! :D
Impossible is a word to be found only within the dictionary of Fools.
KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
June 04 2014 01:02 GMT
#28
Polt for sure and MajOr I believe in you...
Jinro, Polt, Bomber, ForGG, MajOr, Flash, Maru. Terran Fighting...
mechanik
Profile Joined February 2012
Mexico21 Posts
June 04 2014 01:48 GMT
#29
Major! congratz on passing to WCS Ro16 gogogo
none
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 04 2014 01:50 GMT
#30
Thank you for cursing China, Darkhorse!
The world is better when every background has a chance.
whatevertestname
Profile Joined June 2014
Barbados1 Post
June 07 2014 17:38 GMT
#31
awesome!
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