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herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
June 01 2014 15:14 GMT
#21
MMA why did you lose to livezerg. I still can't comprehend how he could bomb out in the ro32
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 01 2014 15:35 GMT
#22
San's season to win!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 15:55:53
June 01 2014 15:40 GMT
#23
On June 01 2014 23:54 marcesr wrote:
Terrible groups, we will most likely see 6-7 Koreans in the top 8. The only interesting group is group C.
This format cant be the future for WCS EU, it bores people to death.

boring for you is not boring for everyone

On June 02 2014 00:14 herMan wrote:
MMA why did you lose to livezerg. I still can't comprehend how he could bomb out in the ro32

tvz
Sharkken
Profile Joined October 2012
Jordan141 Posts
June 01 2014 15:46 GMT
#24
Go go ForGG, its your time to shine
Liquid HerO Best Toss in the World
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
June 01 2014 15:59 GMT
#25
Grubby!
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 01 2014 16:06 GMT
#26
Grubbyyyyyyyyyy :D
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 16:20:13
June 01 2014 16:18 GMT
#27
On June 01 2014 23:54 marcesr wrote:
Terrible groups, we will most likely see 6-7 Koreans in the top 8. The only interesting group is group C.
This format cant be the future for WCS EU, it bores people to death.


because all koreans raped trough the last group too right ? ...

do you even hear you talking ?
and boring for you means just you have a shitty taste xD

rly nice groups will be rly exiting to watch and i dont think the kors have a freewin!!!

On June 02 2014 00:40 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 23:54 marcesr wrote:
Terrible groups, we will most likely see 6-7 Koreans in the top 8. The only interesting group is group C.
This format cant be the future for WCS EU, it bores people to death.

boring for you is not boring for everyone

Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 00:14 herMan wrote:
MMA why did you lose to livezerg. I still can't comprehend how he could bomb out in the ro32

tvz


does that mean terran has whined enough about protoss and now whine about zerg ? xD


GUY keep calm and lets watch AWESOME games ^^
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 01 2014 16:21 GMT
#28
On June 02 2014 01:18 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 23:54 marcesr wrote:
Terrible groups, we will most likely see 6-7 Koreans in the top 8. The only interesting group is group C.
This format cant be the future for WCS EU, it bores people to death.


because all koreans raped trough the last group too right ? ...

do you even hear you talking ?
and boring for you means just you have a shitty taste xD

rly nice groups will be rly exiting to watch and i dont think the kors have a freewin!!!

Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 00:40 Waise wrote:
On June 01 2014 23:54 marcesr wrote:
Terrible groups, we will most likely see 6-7 Koreans in the top 8. The only interesting group is group C.
This format cant be the future for WCS EU, it bores people to death.

boring for you is not boring for everyone

On June 02 2014 00:14 herMan wrote:
MMA why did you lose to livezerg. I still can't comprehend how he could bomb out in the ro32

tvz


does that mean terran has whined enough about protoss and now whine about zerg ? xD


GUY keep calm and lets watch AWESOME games ^^

check the icon bro i'm a zerg player, and i'm not whining, it's just a commonly known fact that tvz has been broken for a while

i haven't seen many games since the hellbat patch so i dunno if that helped at all
hewo
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway119 Posts
June 01 2014 16:27 GMT
#29
Poll: Group of Death?

Group A (2)
 
5%

Group B (13)
 
33%

Group C (22)
 
56%

Group D (2)
 
5%

39 total votes

Your vote: Group of Death?

(Vote): Group A
(Vote): Group B
(Vote): Group C
(Vote): Group D



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batatm
Profile Joined June 2014
Israel116 Posts
June 01 2014 16:57 GMT
#30
so, we have 9 protoss (out of 14) in the Ro16... only 2 groups produce a terran player (2 out of 10), both because they had 3 terrans (and both qualified from the second place).
I am a zerg player but i really think the influx of protoss and the lack of terrans is hurting the game severly!
*just to be clear: I believe the game is fairly balanced ATM, but this situation really cuts into the already low diversity of the game...
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 01 2014 17:01 GMT
#31
On June 02 2014 01:57 batatm wrote:
so, we have 9 protoss (out of 14) in the Ro16... only 2 groups produce a terran player (2 out of 10), both because they had 3 terrans (and both qualified from the second place).
I am a zerg player but i really think the influx of protoss and the lack of terrans is hurting the game severly!
*just to be clear: I believe the game is fairly balanced ATM, but this situation really cuts into the already low diversity of the game...


This "situation" is known as Europe. Season 2 2013, as we were still adjusting after the hellbat patch, Europe had 6 Protoss in the Top 8, and 5 in their 6-man delegation to the season finals.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 01 2014 17:16 GMT
#32
On June 01 2014 23:54 marcesr wrote:
Terrible groups, we will most likely see 6-7 Koreans in the top 8. The only interesting group is group C.
This format cant be the future for WCS EU, it bores people to death.

has nothing to do with the format, it's on Blizzard to balance the game so we can have more Terrans and less Protoss again.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
June 01 2014 17:18 GMT
#33
I predict 4 KR 4 EU for the ro8....
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
June 01 2014 17:36 GMT
#34
If no Mvp, I'm cheering for MC. I believe he can take it all again.
Flash | Mvp
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China497 Posts
June 01 2014 17:38 GMT
#35
On June 02 2014 02:16 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 23:54 marcesr wrote:
Terrible groups, we will most likely see 6-7 Koreans in the top 8. The only interesting group is group C.
This format cant be the future for WCS EU, it bores people to death.

has nothing to do with the format, it's on Blizzard to balance the game so we can have more Terrans and less Protoss again.


Europe's best players have always been protosses, now with MC, San, Stardust and First there as well there's no stopping them. The only real surprise is that MMA and Jjaki are not up there, its up to the other players to step up there game as more koreans are showing up
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
June 01 2014 17:53 GMT
#36
How long does it usually take for the vods to get uploaded?
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
nobot87
Profile Joined December 2011
United States23 Posts
June 01 2014 18:50 GMT
#37
Whha!? More foreigners than Koreans??
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
June 01 2014 18:50 GMT
#38
Le TOD's season to win XD
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
June 01 2014 19:02 GMT
#39
On June 01 2014 22:25 Vorenius wrote:
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On June 01 2014 22:03 Dumbledore wrote:
On June 01 2014 21:55 Nine Gates wrote:
I suppose the theme of this season is inevitability. Despite all the times Europe managed to hold, we're still terrifyingly close to a 7-korean Ro8.

No, atleast 2 non-koreans will make it.

First, Golden
Yoda, MC
ForGG
Stardust San

That makes 7 koreans (unless you were making a joke that ForGG is french). Of course I could see a foreigner from Group A, as well as ForGG getting eliminated which would mean 3 foreigners in Ro8. #Dreaming


What he wanted to say is:

NOWAY WELMU WOULD LOSE SCRUBS LIKE YODA AND MC
RO8 HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gogo foreigners especially Welmu and Grubby!
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 01 2014 19:25 GMT
#40
You're so pessimistic, Koreans are foreigner in Europe so we can get 7/8 foreigners in ro8.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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