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Josh_Video
Canada798 Posts
Congratz to Kas and Cascade | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12450 Posts
On May 25 2014 03:15 nkr wrote: can you explain how being sponsored by a sports betting site is related to any of this? Don't you know that whenever you're cheating it's good to associate yourself with the site you're cheating on so that playa can make the connexion and unveil everything like a hero? | ||
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Kenobii
Canada35 Posts
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miScythe
Norway16 Posts
 GL KAS!Edit: Wow, my signature is OLD. | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On May 25 2014 07:42 Drake wrote: wow ^^ in good old times you would not have been warned for that but an instapermban ... dude wtf your talking ? even if your joking its not funny its so bs to start such talking you rly deserve a hour in the corner ! with the hat ! reading your next post i think a hour wont make it ... god rly because of guys like you everyone is so ***** nowadays ... he surely not have to explain his thoughts to a guy LIKE YOU ... hope no one jumps on your shittrain ... GL to kas and i hope to see many more good games of you What does that even mean? I'm a GM Toss who has never encountered anything like this before. I've even played Kas before. If not spending any minerals/gas when you have 4k/2k plus for 10 minutes is sensible to him, then he should stay retired. | ||
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ETisME
12710 Posts
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Seifa
Italy9 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On May 25 2014 03:06 playa wrote: http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/matches/kas-vs-patience/game-1 In the late/late game, he realizes his opponent is maxed or at least has to proceed as if his opponent is maxed, yet he doesn't have any interest in going above 170 supply, despite having a massive bank. At the end, he decides to engage into a ridiculous position at around 160 supply, despite having the means to max first, and then he decides, first time in forever, to make units, after the engagement when he is reduced to 100 supply and it's obvious he has to gg soon. I understand trying to be prudent with where you allocate your resources when you're uncertain of how much incoming funds you will have and the idea of not wanting to have "wasted supply." Ie; over making vikings when they end up only being ground. But given understanding things like this, the game in question still makes 0 sense to me. I simply think it's suspicious and Kas should explain his thought process, especially now that he has joined a team sponsored by a betting site... You think it's possible he could be on tilt after losing so many games in a row in a tournament? Never mind, let's accuse one of the hardest working, fair, veteran players of cheating with no evidence. Disgusting. Best of luck to Kas and his new team. Maybe he'll feel less pressure with a local team and friends. | ||
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StarMoon
Canada682 Posts
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
GL to Kas and myself! + Show Spoiler + No, I have no connection to the team.+ Show Spoiler + Taking offers for this account though, winkwink.   | ||
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
What does that even mean? I'm a GM Toss who has never encountered anything like this before. That means that nobody cares who you are, nobody is going to do any explaining to you, and nobody is going to listen to your advise on retirement. Move on with your life. | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On May 25 2014 11:58 TRaFFiC wrote: You think it's possible he could be on tilt after losing so many games in a row in a tournament? Never mind, let's accuse one of the hardest working, fair, veteran players of cheating with no evidence. Disgusting. Best of luck to Kas and his new team. Maybe he'll feel less pressure with a local team and friends. Do you think it's possible you might be talking out of your ass? It was the first game in his challenger league series (there is only 1 series played in challenger). I was watching Grubby stream a few days before the match, and he played against Kas, and Kas was plenty aware that he would lose the series (as Koreans are better). I love betting on sports. If you can play like this and not have to answer/explain anything, then I'd be crazy to not throw games if I were ever to be in a spot to profit from it. I've yet to bet on SC 2, though, so I don't know all of the bets. I just know I heard of there being bets you can make in SC 2 that involve whether a player will win at least 1 game in the series, though. Straight up series bet, you'd get horrible odds, but if you try to go for the 0-4, then you could probably get something worth betting/accomplishing. Kas was the hardest working player, but he was also on the verge of quiting. And, if anyone has peaked out, it's going to be him. If you can play like that, yet not have eye brows raised, then there is no reason to not expect SC 2 to go down the same path broodwar did. Just explain the thought process. If it makes sense, OK. If not, maybe he didn't want to win... Doing interviews and talking about WCS games is pretty standard after all. Not exactly asking for something that's unreasonable. What would people say if someone accused Savior of match fixing before people realized he was. They would say, wtf, that's impossible. Why would one of the greatest players in SC need to resort to something like this. He's already making so much! It's more of a stretch to think no one is betting against themselves in pro SC 2 than vice versa. And, this is one of the most suspicious games I've seen. Thus, if you can't even pose a question to try to understand it better, then you don't know what you're talking about. | ||
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Roachu
Sweden692 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12450 Posts
What if Nestea threw against Huk because he had bet against himself? What if soO threw against Zest because he had bet against himself? Or maybe, just maybe, what if people just sometimes threw because throws happen, and what if maybe they didn't need people questioning their integrity with zero proof and a persistence that is largely uncalled for? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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eightym
United States76 Posts
On May 25 2014 13:01 Nebuchad wrote: Hey what if Tefel threw against Mvp because he had bet against himself? What if Nestea threw against Huk because he had bet against himself? What if soO threw against Zest because he had bet against himself? Or maybe, just maybe, what if people just sometimes threw because throws happen, and what if maybe they didn't need people questioning their integrity with zero proof and a persistence that is largely uncalled for? I automatically play like garbage when I know I'm playing vs a streamer. Nobody ever accuses me of match fixing. Then again I'm not good enough for people to have a personal grudge against me. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
not 1000 posts but acting like someone knowing anything xD go plz play with lego and dont come back to make kas bad ok ? that we even have to talk about such bs is disgusting | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On May 25 2014 14:51 eightym wrote: I automatically play like garbage when I know I'm playing vs a streamer. Nobody ever accuses me of match fixing. Then again I'm not good enough for people to have a personal grudge against me. I'm pretty sure everyone does that, until they get used to it. As for personal grudges, the only time I play Kas are the few times he goes onto NA (rare). Hard to have a grudge against someone you don't have history with. Kas made a conscious decision to not make units. That has 0 to do with playing bad in the sense of, o, I missed a force field or my macro slipped. It was intentional. I'm just deeply confused as to how a Terran can expect to beat a maxed Toss army with only 160 supply. If Kas was playing with the intention of trying to win, then I'm still just as curious as to why. It would mean he is seeing the game differently than anyone else and has some kinda special understanding of the matchup. If you want to defend the guy, start with explaining the merits for choosing to not make units. Anything else is completely irrelevant. You'd have to figure someone could just ask him. Anomalies are interesting. I doubt I could find another pro t vs p game like it. Knowing your opponents unit composition and having the money and free supply to make anything you want. At what point do you consider making something? 10k/10k? Even if he were to match fix, who could blame him. Given what I've seen, while having that much money at any given time is hard to accomplish, I'd try to do it myself... User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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