• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 15:37
CET 21:37
KST 05:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1723 users

San, ToD advance from Group D of WCS EU Ro32

Forum Index > SC2 General
45 CommentsPost a Reply
Normal
TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
May 22 2014 22:45 GMT
#1
[image loading]

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_WCS_Season_2_Europe/Premier
VODs on Youtube

[image loading]
The upsets kept coming in the WCS Europe Premier League. Though it was no great shock to see last season's semifinalist (P)yoeFW.San take first place in Group D of the Ro32, few expected StarCraft 2 legend (T)IM_Mvp to exit the group in last place.

Instead, it fell to occasional WCS Europe commentator (P)XMG.ToD and Premier League newcomer (T)AT|uThermal to contend for the second place spot. At the end of a back and forth series, ToD clinched the victory in game three, holding out against uThermal's constant infantry-mine aggression to claim a spot in the Ro16.

The WCS Europe Ro32 continues in two days with Group E, featuring BabyKnight, First, StarDust, and FireCake.


Next game day:
Group E: (P)StarDust, (P)BabyKnight, (P)First, (Z)FireCake

Players qualified for Ro16: (P)Welmu, (Z)Nerchio, (Z)Snute, (P)MaNa, (P)Harstem, (T)YoDa, (P)San, (P)ToD
Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
Titetouf
Profile Joined September 2011
France4 Posts
May 22 2014 22:47 GMT
#2
Le ToD \o/
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
May 22 2014 22:47 GMT
#3
Awww Mvp. Ro32 hurdle is too much.
Someone call down the Thunder?
TeamBanished
Profile Joined September 2011
United States301 Posts
May 22 2014 22:59 GMT
#4
MVP retirement incoming?
For Aiur
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
May 22 2014 22:59 GMT
#5
Siiiickkkkkkkk

For me, San was guaranteed to advance, but ToD? Damn, you're a fine caster!
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 23:04:01
May 22 2014 23:02 GMT
#6
On May 23 2014 07:59 morevox wrote:
MVP retirement incoming?


Nowhere near it. GEM just hooked him up with an Azubu streaming deal, after all.

In the meantime, however, congratulations to Ret for securing himself another casting gig.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
OldLadyStarCraft
Profile Joined November 2013
United States66 Posts
May 22 2014 23:12 GMT
#7
Todd played his heart out. Congrats! Always good to see foreigners through but we need more terrans!
Frankenberry
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark302 Posts
May 22 2014 23:13 GMT
#8
It is pretty impressing to me that TOD has lately consistently delivered good result. Casting or no casting to be honest ^^ gj ^^
bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
May 23 2014 00:03 GMT
#9
i love you,mvp!


congratulations to tod, he deserves it.
Top50 GM EU Protoss from Bulgaria. Streaming with commentary : www.twitch.tv/hwbgmethix
DaftFunk
Profile Joined June 2013
194 Posts
May 23 2014 00:04 GMT
#10
King of Wings =[
iViNtaGe
Profile Joined July 2012
United States254 Posts
May 23 2014 00:21 GMT
#11
Mvp
Favorite Players: Bomber | Maru | Life | PartinG | InnoVation | Bbyong
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 23 2014 00:28 GMT
#12
Has Mvp done military service yet?
kiss kiss fall in love
AKAvg
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil298 Posts
May 23 2014 00:37 GMT
#13
Was very sad to see the King dropping out like this.
Truth be told, he wasn't playing well. Even so...
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
May 23 2014 00:42 GMT
#14
LE TOD!!

VIVE LA FRANCE
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 23 2014 00:45 GMT
#15
ToD is a beast! Slowly inching his way up to top foreigner Protoss status now that BBK is out of the picture.

Will be cool to see him compete in the studio! He must be so happy :D
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
May 23 2014 00:54 GMT
#16
TOD next bonjwa
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
May 23 2014 01:33 GMT
#17
Mvp T_T
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
May 23 2014 02:01 GMT
#18
Mvp has done enough that I will never doubt him for a life time. He'll get it next time.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
May 23 2014 02:34 GMT
#19
ToD!!! <33
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
May 23 2014 02:51 GMT
#20
LE TOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Towelie.635
Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
May 23 2014 02:57 GMT
#21
ToD so good!!
"HSC casting is essentially an LR thread read aloud." -ThomasjServo
KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
May 23 2014 03:33 GMT
#22
MVP, why?
Jinro, Polt, Bomber, ForGG, MajOr, Flash, Maru. Terran Fighting...
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 03:35:29
May 23 2014 03:33 GMT
#23
i camt to find the "mimimi the 2 p won and 2 t are out" posts ...
pretty happy to not find them

its RLY sad that uthermal went out, i think he was on same level then san and tod today and thats ... super ... sad ...

san rly got a lucky day

when i look at all the games you start to see its not the KOREANS who are imba, its not a jakji a mvp or a mc ...
look at all the koreans loosing to foreigns in wcs and see they moved to europe !

i think the kors in usa still play on kor server which makes the point i always said
its not KOREANS are better then we by simply being "korean" its the circumstances !

a server with the highest by far highest skill to train.
and even more TEAMHOUSES with coaches that have years of experiance putting more time in the game then anyone out of korea ....

koreans arent imba ... korea is ! xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
May 23 2014 04:30 GMT
#24
On May 23 2014 12:33 Drake wrote:
i camt to find the "mimimi the 2 p won and 2 t are out" posts ...
pretty happy to not find them

its RLY sad that uthermal went out, i think he was on same level then san and tod today and thats ... super ... sad ...

san rly got a lucky day

when i look at all the games you start to see its not the KOREANS who are imba, its not a jakji a mvp or a mc ...
look at all the koreans loosing to foreigns in wcs and see they moved to europe !

i think the kors in usa still play on kor server which makes the point i always said
its not KOREANS are better then we by simply being "korean" its the circumstances !

a server with the highest by far highest skill to train.
and even more TEAMHOUSES with coaches that have years of experiance putting more time in the game then anyone out of korea ....

koreans arent imba ... korea is ! xD

I think we all knew that...

Anyways, really sad for Mvp, but I'm still happy for San and ToD.
Really hoping for an Mvp top 2 next season though. I BELIEVE!!!
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
utyske
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark185 Posts
May 23 2014 05:13 GMT
#25
Le ToD was amazing, great games. And good games from uThermal too.
He's not the fastest zergling in the control group - Day9
owenose
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany108 Posts
May 23 2014 05:20 GMT
#26
On May 23 2014 12:33 Drake wrote:
i camt to find the "mimimi the 2 p won and 2 t are out" posts ...
pretty happy to not find them

its RLY sad that uthermal went out, i think he was on same level then san and tod today and thats ... super ... sad ...

san rly got a lucky day

when i look at all the games you start to see its not the KOREANS who are imba, its not a jakji a mvp or a mc ...
look at all the koreans loosing to foreigns in wcs and see they moved to europe !

i think the kors in usa still play on kor server which makes the point i always said
its not KOREANS are better then we by simply being "korean" its the circumstances !

a server with the highest by far highest skill to train.
and even more TEAMHOUSES with coaches that have years of experiance putting more time in the game then anyone out of korea ....

koreans arent imba ... korea is ! xD

I guess nobody here really thought korean DNA would make you imba in RTS Games or sth oO
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 23 2014 05:37 GMT
#27
Yay for San!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
May 23 2014 07:04 GMT
#28
Congrats to ToD! Very unexpected, I haven't seen any of his games but he must have played really well! Also, uThermal was impressive Hope he makes into the RO16 next season.
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
Rhaeide
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain304 Posts
May 23 2014 07:38 GMT
#29
ToD was even close to win 3rd game vs San, he's solid atm.
♪ www.youtube.com/Rhaeide ♫ LucifroN/VortiX/herO/Scarlett/Flash/EffOrt/BoxeR/Kingdom/Nal_rA
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
May 23 2014 07:40 GMT
#30
Le TOD, champion of the people.
vhapter
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil677 Posts
May 23 2014 07:57 GMT
#31
Le ToD! <3
To live is to fight, to fight is to live!
niekoz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
May 23 2014 08:02 GMT
#32
Teerraaaaaaaaaaaaan!

Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
May 23 2014 08:36 GMT
#33
On May 23 2014 07:47 Titetouf wrote:
Le ToD \o/

lol just 2 weeks ago he said about terran "I don't know what to do against that race", almost felt like balance whine, just to knock out the king of wings shortly after...
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
May 23 2014 08:37 GMT
#34
On May 23 2014 12:33 Drake wrote:
i camt to find the "mimimi the 2 p won and 2 t are out" posts ...
pretty happy to not find them

its RLY sad that uthermal went out, i think he was on same level then san and tod today and thats ... super ... sad ...

san rly got a lucky day

when i look at all the games you start to see its not the KOREANS who are imba, its not a jakji a mvp or a mc ...
look at all the koreans loosing to foreigns in wcs and see they moved to europe !

i think the kors in usa still play on kor server which makes the point i always said
its not KOREANS are better then we by simply being "korean" its the circumstances !

a server with the highest by far highest skill to train.
and even more TEAMHOUSES with coaches that have years of experiance putting more time in the game then anyone out of korea ....

koreans arent imba ... korea is ! xD

ppl stopped complaining about the obvious, and accepted how it is.
You cannot denie there is a slight imbalance, but what does the whining do since WoL because Blizzard isn't going to change it
[DVH]Huginn
Profile Joined July 2013
Netherlands32 Posts
May 23 2014 09:06 GMT
#35
I would love to see the upsets continue tomorrow, ToD and uThermal going through over Mvp and San would be so much fun to watch.

Gogo Harstem!


I guess I got half of it right, still made me smile because it's ToD. Sad to see the terrans losing though as a Terran myself. But hey, all coins have two sides.
blackbrrd
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway477 Posts
May 23 2014 10:11 GMT
#36
I am really happy for ToD, I am a bit sad that he isn't commentating WCS EU though, he did a really good job. WCS EU was really lucky to have him as a commentator.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
May 23 2014 10:14 GMT
#37
So happy for le ToD ! Especially this win over Mvp ! Feels good :D
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
May 23 2014 10:17 GMT
#38
Beautiful play ToD !!! xD
*burp*
DroopyFR
Profile Joined August 2011
France138 Posts
May 23 2014 10:22 GMT
#39
On May 23 2014 19:17 Parcelleus wrote:
Beautiful play ToD !!! xD

LE TOD LE TOD ALWAYS LE TOD !!! xD
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
May 23 2014 10:56 GMT
#40
really really happy that ToD made it, but god as a big Mvp fanboy, those games were painful to watch.
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
May 23 2014 11:08 GMT
#41
Sick ToD!! Grats!!
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
May 23 2014 11:13 GMT
#42
ToD is just silently one of the better non-koreans and one awesome caster at the same time ^_^
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
MChrome
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
May 23 2014 12:06 GMT
#43
uThermal was pretty impressive tbh. I did not expect him to do as well as he did. He did earn another fan yesterday
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
elwood.sc2
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany35 Posts
May 23 2014 13:47 GMT
#44
On May 23 2014 12:33 Drake wrote:
i camt to find the "mimimi the 2 p won and 2 t are out" posts ...
pretty happy to not find them

its RLY sad that uthermal went out, i think he was on same level then san and tod today and thats ... super ... sad ...

san rly got a lucky day

when i look at all the games you start to see its not the KOREANS who are imba, its not a jakji a mvp or a mc ...
look at all the koreans loosing to foreigns in wcs and see they moved to europe !

i think the kors in usa still play on kor server which makes the point i always said
its not KOREANS are better then we by simply being "korean" its the circumstances !

a server with the highest by far highest skill to train.
and even more TEAMHOUSES with coaches that have years of experiance putting more time in the game then anyone out of korea ....

koreans arent imba ... korea is ! xD



Well, that seems to be the case ;-) If You didn't read this article "Why Are Koreans So Good at Starcraft 2?", yet, do it.

An interesting conclusion could be: Koreans, which play in EU are worsening over time.
sOs - Dear - Maru - Life - Soulkey ### "The void claims its own."
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
May 23 2014 17:00 GMT
#45
MVP has fallen even lower than nestea now. It's a sad thing to watch the demise of the king like this.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
May 25 2014 18:30 GMT
#46
On May 23 2014 22:47 elwood.sc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 12:33 Drake wrote:
i camt to find the "mimimi the 2 p won and 2 t are out" posts ...
pretty happy to not find them

its RLY sad that uthermal went out, i think he was on same level then san and tod today and thats ... super ... sad ...

san rly got a lucky day

when i look at all the games you start to see its not the KOREANS who are imba, its not a jakji a mvp or a mc ...
look at all the koreans loosing to foreigns in wcs and see they moved to europe !

i think the kors in usa still play on kor server which makes the point i always said
its not KOREANS are better then we by simply being "korean" its the circumstances !

a server with the highest by far highest skill to train.
and even more TEAMHOUSES with coaches that have years of experiance putting more time in the game then anyone out of korea ....

koreans arent imba ... korea is ! xD



Well, that seems to be the case ;-) If You didn't read this article "Why Are Koreans So Good at Starcraft 2?", yet, do it.

An interesting conclusion could be: Koreans, which play in EU are worsening over time.

that is not really surprising, as over time, you adapt to the level you need to play to win.
That is what happens too every sportsman in every league or sport
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
20:00
Bracket - LB Quarterfinals
StRyKeR vs eOnzErG
Bonyth vs Sziky
ZZZero.O206
LiquipediaDiscussion
Ladder Legends
17:00
WWG Masters Showdown
SteadfastSC268
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
White-Ra 461
SteadfastSC 268
IndyStarCraft 196
ProTech142
BRAT_OK 111
CosmosSc2 42
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 1750
Shuttle 473
ZZZero.O 206
Mini 112
Dewaltoss 97
Hyun 91
ggaemo 49
910 31
soO 25
Killer 15
[ Show more ]
HiyA 7
Counter-Strike
fl0m1248
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor419
Other Games
Grubby3233
FrodaN2798
B2W.Neo844
Beastyqt774
mouzStarbuck315
Liquid`Hasu280
ArmadaUGS128
QueenE91
Mew2King45
Chillindude21
Organizations
Other Games
PGL1374
gamesdonequick1126
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 37
• HeavenSC 26
• Reevou 20
• Adnapsc2 9
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV1027
• HappyZerGling68
Other Games
• imaqtpie1951
• Shiphtur219
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
12h 23m
Wardi Open
15h 23m
Monday Night Weeklies
20h 23m
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.