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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
May 13 2014 03:35 GMT
#21
I hope Welmu will advance.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
May 13 2014 04:48 GMT
#22
Hoping for Demuslim Stephano. Most likely Nerchio and Welmu coming out though
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
May 13 2014 05:45 GMT
#23
Stephano in da house!Can't wait :D
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
May 13 2014 08:58 GMT
#24
On May 13 2014 06:33 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Thankfully for viewers who don't want to be watching WCS until 1AM, the second Zerg in the group is as adverse to using Swarm Hosts as Stephano is fond of them. (Z)Acer.Nerchio didn't mind abusing masses of free units in the BL-infestor days, riding the composition to become the top Zerg in Europe behind Stephano (a title he contested with VortiX at times). However, he's had a rougher time in HotS, unable to make it back to the top with his more 'conscientious' unit compositions.


I don't think, that this does Nerchio justice, he was considered the best zerg outside of korea by many, long before the BL/infestor composition existed and also before Stephano himself rised. The amout of online domination shown by Nerchio at times in 2011 was incredible.
Dawg_Snow
Profile Joined September 2011
France425 Posts
May 13 2014 08:59 GMT
#25
On May 13 2014 10:46 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 07:08 Nerchio wrote:
Wrong prediction. Nerchio ezpz


ROFL, this guy....

[image loading]


haha epic
Stephano, Sarens, Tarson, Mana, MMA, MVP -- Dawg EU Master Terran
v_lm
Profile Joined September 2012
France202 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 09:03:50
May 13 2014 09:03 GMT
#26
I'll go ahead and pick Nerchio and Stephano 'cause they're entertaining and zergs.
A friend is someone you know well and still love.
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
May 13 2014 09:14 GMT
#27
On May 13 2014 17:58 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 06:33 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Thankfully for viewers who don't want to be watching WCS until 1AM, the second Zerg in the group is as adverse to using Swarm Hosts as Stephano is fond of them. (Z)Acer.Nerchio didn't mind abusing masses of free units in the BL-infestor days, riding the composition to become the top Zerg in Europe behind Stephano (a title he contested with VortiX at times). However, he's had a rougher time in HotS, unable to make it back to the top with his more 'conscientious' unit compositions.


I don't think, that this does Nerchio justice, he was considered the best zerg outside of korea by many, long before the BL/infestor composition existed and also before Stephano himself rised. The amout of online domination shown by Nerchio at times in 2011 was incredible.


Yes but many players have had 'online domination' with minimal offline success. In 2012 Nerchio won a Dreamhack and Home Story Cup. So no doubt he was successful and had his moments. But after IPL in 2011 when Stephano emerged and rose to the top, Stephano would almost always be favoured. This continued until the day Stephano 'retired'. It was an arms race between the two (and VortiX) but Stephano was almost always on top.
Jaedong <3
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
May 13 2014 09:27 GMT
#28
Stephano isn't only deafeating others, he is defeating defeating
WCS Europe qualifiers, defeating defeating uzer 2-0,
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
May 13 2014 09:31 GMT
#29
Go go Nerchio!
Year of MaxPax
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
May 13 2014 09:32 GMT
#30
What a great group, so looking forward to it!
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 13 2014 09:36 GMT
#31
On May 13 2014 18:14 Trasko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 17:58 Xoronius wrote:
On May 13 2014 06:33 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Thankfully for viewers who don't want to be watching WCS until 1AM, the second Zerg in the group is as adverse to using Swarm Hosts as Stephano is fond of them. (Z)Acer.Nerchio didn't mind abusing masses of free units in the BL-infestor days, riding the composition to become the top Zerg in Europe behind Stephano (a title he contested with VortiX at times). However, he's had a rougher time in HotS, unable to make it back to the top with his more 'conscientious' unit compositions.


I don't think, that this does Nerchio justice, he was considered the best zerg outside of korea by many, long before the BL/infestor composition existed and also before Stephano himself rised. The amout of online domination shown by Nerchio at times in 2011 was incredible.


Yes but many players have had 'online domination' with minimal offline success. In 2012 Nerchio won a Dreamhack and Home Story Cup. So no doubt he was successful and had his moments. But after IPL in 2011 when Stephano emerged and rose to the top, Stephano would almost always be favoured. This continued until the day Stephano 'retired'. It was an arms race between the two (and VortiX) but Stephano was almost always on top.


It is not about him against Stephano, it is the "riding the composition to become the top Zerg in Europe" part. He already was that.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
IMScientist
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy125 Posts
May 13 2014 09:40 GMT
#32
Hmm Welmu and Nerchio but it chould be Stephano if he plays like he did vs JD
This guy plays like he was sent down from heavens
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
May 13 2014 09:40 GMT
#33
On May 13 2014 18:36 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 18:14 Trasko wrote:
On May 13 2014 17:58 Xoronius wrote:
On May 13 2014 06:33 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Thankfully for viewers who don't want to be watching WCS until 1AM, the second Zerg in the group is as adverse to using Swarm Hosts as Stephano is fond of them. (Z)Acer.Nerchio didn't mind abusing masses of free units in the BL-infestor days, riding the composition to become the top Zerg in Europe behind Stephano (a title he contested with VortiX at times). However, he's had a rougher time in HotS, unable to make it back to the top with his more 'conscientious' unit compositions.


I don't think, that this does Nerchio justice, he was considered the best zerg outside of korea by many, long before the BL/infestor composition existed and also before Stephano himself rised. The amout of online domination shown by Nerchio at times in 2011 was incredible.


Yes but many players have had 'online domination' with minimal offline success. In 2012 Nerchio won a Dreamhack and Home Story Cup. So no doubt he was successful and had his moments. But after IPL in 2011 when Stephano emerged and rose to the top, Stephano would almost always be favoured. This continued until the day Stephano 'retired'. It was an arms race between the two (and VortiX) but Stephano was almost always on top.


It is not about him against Stephano, it is the "riding the composition to become the top Zerg in Europe" part. He already was that.


But like I said. He didn't have any major titles until the composition started going into fashion. I'm not saying he used it every single game but him along with many other Zergs used the strategy to great success.
Jaedong <3
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
May 13 2014 10:36 GMT
#34
From IPL 3 until WCS EU 2012 Stephano was always considered as "best foreigner zerg". His prime time was IPL3 (September 2011) until IPL4 (Summer 2012), then he became worse monthly but still the best zerg until WCS EU 2012.
His best performance was definitely with Millenium, around 10x better/more dominance than he showed with EG.

Even during EG time, his ZvP and ZvT results were alot better than best korean zerg had. ~13 of ~15 tournaments (where he didnt won) he was eliminated by ZvZ while almost unbeatable in ZvT and ZvP in all ~15 tournaments.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 13 2014 11:58 GMT
#35
The best foreigner will show his true form today, Nerchio ez pz.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 12:34:20
May 13 2014 12:33 GMT
#36
On May 13 2014 18:40 Trasko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 18:36 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On May 13 2014 18:14 Trasko wrote:
On May 13 2014 17:58 Xoronius wrote:
On May 13 2014 06:33 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Thankfully for viewers who don't want to be watching WCS until 1AM, the second Zerg in the group is as adverse to using Swarm Hosts as Stephano is fond of them. (Z)Acer.Nerchio didn't mind abusing masses of free units in the BL-infestor days, riding the composition to become the top Zerg in Europe behind Stephano (a title he contested with VortiX at times). However, he's had a rougher time in HotS, unable to make it back to the top with his more 'conscientious' unit compositions.


I don't think, that this does Nerchio justice, he was considered the best zerg outside of korea by many, long before the BL/infestor composition existed and also before Stephano himself rised. The amout of online domination shown by Nerchio at times in 2011 was incredible.


Yes but many players have had 'online domination' with minimal offline success. In 2012 Nerchio won a Dreamhack and Home Story Cup. So no doubt he was successful and had his moments. But after IPL in 2011 when Stephano emerged and rose to the top, Stephano would almost always be favoured. This continued until the day Stephano 'retired'. It was an arms race between the two (and VortiX) but Stephano was almost always on top.


It is not about him against Stephano, it is the "riding the composition to become the top Zerg in Europe" part. He already was that.


But like I said. He didn't have any major titles until the composition started going into fashion. I'm not saying he used it every single game but him along with many other Zergs used the strategy to great success.

Sorry, that I didn't make myself clear at first place, like AlternativeEgo said, I meant the "riding composition to become" part as well. He didn't ever travel as much as other zergs, because he still attendet university, which factored into him not having that many major titles. But his online form was easily enough to justify him being a top zerg. Sure online a lot of players have periods of domination, but what Nerchio did is not the "Siw won the last two ZOTACS in a row with 3-0 against good players, I consider him a top foreigner now" kind, but a level above anyone else. He still has 50% more won cups (Zotac and Go4) than everyone else and Hyun plays both for more than a year now. And not only the smaller cups, also the bigger events, like Shoutcrafts, Scan Invs, MSI pro cups, GSS and a 10k-dollar LAN in Berlin. Add to that his run at IPL 2.

Just as a comparism: He won more money in 2011 than Idra. I'm not arguing that post-IPL3 Stephano was clearly the top zerg, but pre-IPL 3 Nerchio was considered one of the best foreign zergs already, with only Idra, DIMAGA and Sen rivaling him. And that was far before BL/infestor.

Btw., this is all critizism on a high level, I liked the rest of the article
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
May 13 2014 12:34 GMT
#37
Stephano > all.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
May 13 2014 12:40 GMT
#38
EG boys don't stand a chance.
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
May 13 2014 13:16 GMT
#39
looking forward to next level Nerchio vs swarmhosts
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
May 13 2014 13:34 GMT
#40
Stephano just has too much swag to be counted out.
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