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Source: http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=108676&iskin=esports
Group A:
Zest (P) v. Tails (P)
Dark (Z) v. Bbyong (T)
Group B:
SoO (Z) v. Ragnarok (Z)
True (Z) vs. Trap (P)
Group C:
Rain (P) vs. Stork (P)
Ruin (P) vs. Symbol (Z)
Group D:
Life (Z) vs. Rogue (Z)
Hydra (Z) vs. Classic (P)
Group E
Maru (T) vs. Myungsik (P)
ParalyzE (P) vs. DongRaeGu (Z)
Group F
Parting (P) vs. Byul (Z)
Solar (Z) vs. SuperNova (T)
Group G
sOs (P) vs. Shine (Z)
YongHwa (P) vs. Soulkey (Z)
Group H
herO (P) vs. INnoVation (T)
Leenock (Z) vs. Squirtle (P)
Edit: Forgot to write that Code S starts April 30 6pm KST (usual time).
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Poll: Group of DeathA (12) 2% B (4) 1% C (7) 1% D (65) 11% E (24) 4% F (38) 6% G (60) 10% H (386) 65% 596 total votes Your vote: Group of Death (Vote): A
(Vote): B
(Vote): C
(Vote): D
(Vote): E
(Vote): F
(Vote): G
(Vote): H
Poor INnoVation, herO is too good. But maybe he can get 2nd in his group. As I have the 2nd post I'll edit the poll in my post!
EDIT: Fixed the poll, gotta vote new though. Twice now, me so chobo. >_<
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Edit: already group of death poll
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No group of death really.
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Nothing resembling a group of death.
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On April 22 2014 23:01 TameNaken wrote:
Edit: already group of death poll
Actually I took your poll, but it seems like the votes don't move over. So thanks for making it.
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it somehow feels that code s loosed some of its glory with all the code s terrans missing
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Group H isn't in the poll, which is my vote.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Why does this Code S feel easier than last season
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On April 22 2014 23:07 lichter wrote:
Why does this Code S feel easier than last season
more terrans
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Out of the terrans I feel like Bbyong has a very good chance of advancing 2nd. Maru will come out of his group in first place. SuperNova has an easy first match and I think he could take out Byul with his intelligent mech play but Parting is another story.
At first glance Innovation vs herO seems like innovation will lose out but Innovation is 11-3 against hero in games and 6-1 in Sets. Yet so much has changed for both players. I think Innovation will end up losing to herO but i'd strongly favour Inno against Leenock and Squirtle.
So I'm guessing 3 terrans advance with SuNo being the terran ro.32 sacrifice.
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If everything goes well, we might have terranless ro16
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On April 22 2014 23:07 lichter wrote:
Why does this Code S feel easier than last season
It does feel that way, doesn't it?
Anyway, I hope Maru can win it all this time.
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Group A looks EZ...Zest got that,Myungsik sorry bro :/...
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I voted group F as the death group. All those guys are solid lately.
After getting past Bogus and herO in H it starts to break down. Leenock and Squirtle are not in top form right now, they just have star power.
Poor Symbol xD. A group of his worst matchup.
Yonghwa is fucked. Another ro32 for him.
All Terrans except SuNo will probably make it (tough group qq)
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On April 22 2014 23:07 lichter wrote:
Why does this Code S feel easier than last season
Last season was not too hard either. It was more than 10 new players in Code S last season. Code S has been easier since HotS and the new WCS system.
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Wow WTF is this, Maru with an easy group (after I said that he might just drop out...)?
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
O damn Inno has a tough group D: I reckon he can make it though I consider him superior to Squirtle and Leenock but herO will fucking tough
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Group H have definitely most hyped players. E is most difficult IMO
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i predict Maru and Supernova to be the advancing terrans.
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No group has 3 players you'd expect to see in the Ro16.
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Groups D, F, G, and H are all pretty stacked and should be (hopefully) amazing days of games!
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All the groups actually seem fairly balanced. Should be sick
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Wow inno has a tough group, but i think he can advance easily. Go Bogus.
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Great groups, glad all the Terrans are in different groups to give us a mix of matches in the Ro32.
The groups that are race stacked (with 3Z or 3P) have great players to make those mirrors occur, so I think we win across the board here.
Looking forward to it all! :D
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I was hoping for a group of all 4 Terrans 
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On April 22 2014 23:07 lichter wrote:
Why does this Code S feel easier than last season
Was thinking the same thing T_T. Maybe if Flash, Dear, Stats and TY didn't disappoint in Code A it'd look stronger.
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looks like inno wont win
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I don't get where people are thinking Innovation won't get through Group H pretty easily. Squirtle has not looked strong at ALL lately, and Leenock is simply not on Inno's level right now. He might (probably will) lose to CJ herO, but the rest of the group can't keep up with him.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Life is pretty much guaranteed to get out of a group with mostly ZvZ which makes me happy, and Bbyong might just win group A
Don't doubt the Bbyongjwa
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On April 23 2014 01:53 Circumstance wrote:
I don't get where people are thinking Innovation won't get through Group H pretty easily. Squirtle has not looked strong at ALL lately, and Leenock is simply not on Inno's level right now. He might (probably will) lose to CJ herO, but the rest of the group can't keep up with him.
pretty much this
Group G looks way deadlier for me. sOs vs Shine is gonna be weirdly awesome, and while SoulKey would roflstomp YH, I wouldnt favor him over the aforementioned two.
Group D is rather hard to guess two. 3 consistently unpredictable zergs + a top notch protoss in Classic, I'd rather flip some coins.
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Maru vs Myungsik sounds good! Gogo Terrans!
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Holy shit, Group H for group of death for sure... one of the toughest Ro32 Groups ever imo.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On April 23 2014 02:15 kochanfe wrote:
Holy shit, Group H for group of death for sure... one of the toughest Ro32 Groups ever imo.
In terms of name value sure, but not in terms of current form. herO is in contention for the top Protoss spot but Innovation, Leenock and Squirtle have all seen (much) better days. Innovation is looking quite alright at the moment, but both Leenock and Squirtle unfortunately look well below their peaks at the moment.
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I don't get how group H would be the group of death. Just because of HerO? No one else in that group has posted results since early 2013.... If anything, Zest's group would be the closest to a group of death. Zest + BByong. Which btw, for those not following, BByong is 8-3 in Proleague (I believe that is right) and made it to the RO 16 Code S last season, blew through his Code A this season. That kid is on a tear and just isn't given the credit for it. Or, if we are giving group of death because of 1 player, Maru and Soulkey both are scarier than HerO...
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United States23455 Posts
All of these groups seem fairly even.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Group H isnt GoD. There are 2 clear cut favourites with Inno and herO
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My predictions :
Group X : 1st & 2nd
Group A : Zest & Bbyong
Group B : soO & RagnaroK
Group C : Rain & Symbol
Group D : Life & Rogue
Group E : Maru & DRG
Group F : Parting & Supernova
Group G : Soulkey & Yhongwa
Group H : Innovation & herO
Dat group H tho !
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United States33389 Posts
zest with the revenge pick on tails, nice one
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this Code S season looks really underwhelming for some reason.
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I don't really think there is a group of death. Pretty clear front runner in every group and the second place is either also clear or nobody stands out as a favorite
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not really any group of deaths this time...
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Poor INnoVation, herO is too good. But maybe he can get 2nd in his group.
Oh really? Did you think the same about INnoVation back in the 2013 group of death? This is his comeback, i know it
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H would be if Leenock and Squirtle were in their primes. I think though that Parting ByuL Solar and Supernova combined have higher skill than the current state of the players in H.
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You underestimate Leenocks TvZ. I think Inno has more chances to beat hero.
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I'm not sure on the level of either Innovation, Leenock or Squirtle, so whle herO is an easy pick, the 2nd player is completely up for grabs IMO.
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Group C Ruin and Rain are too good I have a feeling Stork won't make it out =(
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United States301 Posts
Hopefully this is Rain's chance to become a GSL champion.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 23 2014 00:47 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 23:07 lichter wrote:
Why does this Code S feel easier than last season Was thinking the same thing T_T. Maybe if Flash, Dear, Stats and TY didn't disappoint in Code A it'd look stronger.
I think its stronger cause none of them made it.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On April 23 2014 03:25 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 00:47 ZAiNs wrote:On April 22 2014 23:07 lichter wrote:
Why does this Code S feel easier than last season Was thinking the same thing T_T. Maybe if Flash, Dear, Stats and TY didn't disappoint in Code A it'd look stronger. I think its stronger cause none of them made it.
Damn Stuchiu TY aint bad yo
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Group A and Group C are the only ones that are hard to call 2 favorites to make it out.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 23 2014 03:27 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 03:25 stuchiu wrote:On April 23 2014 00:47 ZAiNs wrote:On April 22 2014 23:07 lichter wrote:
Why does this Code S feel easier than last season Was thinking the same thing T_T. Maybe if Flash, Dear, Stats and TY didn't disappoint in Code A it'd look stronger. I think its stronger cause none of them made it. Damn Stuchiu TY aint bad yo
Too bad he ran into Supernova in God mode.
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Group D is the group of death . All are very good ZvZers and Classic probably the slight favourite to get out of the group , but it could very well be anyone .
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The lack of terrans is seriously hurting the entertainment value of code S. That's not balance whine, I wouldn't really care if one race were slightly OP or UP as I long ago realised that I don't play at a level where balance matters, but it's just bad for the show. I would probably watch more if there were more Ts.
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The Power of Zerg and Prottos - the game is balanced 
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Group F is without a doubt group of death... D is second (Hydra doesn't fit). I mean really, people are voting for H?! I like Leenock and Squirtle but they haven't been group of death material since 2012.
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Group H? I dont get it. Leenock isnt that good nowadays and Squirtle is terrible, his play is super shaky. Hero is a big favourite following Innovation. Group D and F are way stronger imo.
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EZ group for sOs and Classic!
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Maru and DRG are basically shoe-ins for the ro16 unless they don't play well. Feel bad for Myungsik and Paralyze tho
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United States23455 Posts
On April 23 2014 04:01 Synergysc wrote:
Maru and DRG are basically shoe-ins for the ro16 unless they don't play well. Feel bad for Myungsik and Paralyze tho
I dunno Paralyze wasn't supposed to make Code S either D:
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Shine must have pulled some major strings to be put in a group with Soulkey.
Most of the groups are very close; a lot of the underdogs are very dangerous. G and H are the least interesting ones; unless Shine really does have some kind of magic over Soulkey, sOs/Soulkey and herO/Innovation should make it easily. I also give Maru and Rain a very strong chance of advancing though second place in their groups is not so easy.
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well, my bets
zest/tails
soo/trap
rain/stork
life/classic
maru/drg
parting/byul
sos/soulkey
hero/inno
it'd be a nice ro16
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I actually voted for group A as group of death. When looking at current form, Tails, Dark and Bbyong are all in superb shape atm. And then you have Zest... Like, pretty insane. I'm even gna bet on Bbyong/Tails
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United States97276 Posts
I like Maru's group although the protoss in it should definitely not be underestimated. Both Paralyze and Myungsik played better in Code A than I was expecting
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On April 23 2014 01:53 Circumstance wrote:
I don't get where people are thinking Innovation won't get through Group H pretty easily. Squirtle has not looked strong at ALL lately, and Leenock is simply not on Inno's level right now. He might (probably will) lose to CJ herO, but the rest of the group can't keep up with him.
Leenock not on Inno's level? TvZ is Leenock's best MU and, right now, Inno's worst. He went 2-1 against Dark getting into Code A. Thin line between 2-1 and 1-2. So unless you think Dark and Leenock are on different levels... herO is an easy pick for first place, but second will be a battle.
On April 22 2014 23:37 Frex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 23:07 lichter wrote:
Why does this Code S feel easier than last season Last season was not too hard either. It was more than 10 new players in Code S last season. Code S has been easier since HotS and the new WCS system.
Vehement disagree. S1-3 last year were impossibly stacked. Now, though, is a different story. Too many Protoss and Zerg nobodies coming out of the woodworks and not getting turned down at the Code S door.
A: Zest/Bbyong/watch
B: SoO/Trap/not watch
C: Rain/Symbol/maybe watch
D: Life/Classic/not watch
E: Maru/DRG/maybe watch
F: PartinG/Suno/watch
G: Soulkey/sOs/watch
H: herO/Inno/watch
4 terrans in RO16? My god, what if Rain is placed in a group with three of them?!
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United States97276 Posts
On April 23 2014 05:31 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 01:53 Circumstance wrote:
I don't get where people are thinking Innovation won't get through Group H pretty easily. Squirtle has not looked strong at ALL lately, and Leenock is simply not on Inno's level right now. He might (probably will) lose to CJ herO, but the rest of the group can't keep up with him. Leenock not on Inno's level? TvZ is Leenock's best MU and, right now, Inno's worst. He went 2-1 against Dark getting into Code A. Thin line between 2-1 and 1-2. So unless you think Dark and Leenock are on different levels... herO is an easy pick for first place, but second will be a battle. Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 23:37 Frex wrote:On April 22 2014 23:07 lichter wrote:
Why does this Code S feel easier than last season Last season was not too hard either. It was more than 10 new players in Code S last season. Code S has been easier since HotS and the new WCS system. Vehement disagree. S1-3 last year were impossibly stacked. Now, though, is a different story. Too many Protoss and Zerg nobodies coming out of the woodworks and not getting turned down at the Code S door. A: Zest/Bbyong/watch B: SoO/Trap/not watch C: Rain/Symbol/maybe watch D: Life/Classic/not watch E: Maru/DRG/maybe watch F: PartinG/Suno/watch G: Soulkey/sOs/watch H: herO/Inno/watch 4 terrans in RO16? My god, what if Rain is placed in a group with three of them?!
I assume he will probably just retire
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A: Zest, BByong.
B: Soo, Trap.
C: Rain, Stork.
D: Life, Classic.
E: Maru, Myungsik(KT fanboy ism).
F: Parting, Supernova.
G: sOs, Soulkey.
H: Hero, Innovation.
If most of these guys advance, ro16 should be pretty stacked.
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Group A:
Zest, Bbyong
Group B:
Trap, soO
Group C:
Rain, Stork
Group D:
Life, Rogue
Group E
Maru, DRG
Group F
PartinG, ByuL
Group G
sOs, Soulkey
Group H
herO, INnoVation
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Woosh, groups.
Bbyong/Dark, i can go hard, right? Zest will bomb out instantly into Code B after it.
soO against drew Trap l0l, i start to think that they're choosing each other before events. Anyway, both to advance, poor TRUE ):
Stork got best group to advance lol. Rain and Symbol, sadly for Ruin no Terrans in this group.
SICKEST GROUP D. Rogue could win whole season, but ofc he had to get Life and Hydra in his group in Ro32. Classic and Life to advance.
Considering that there are 2 Protosses, Maru advances, DRG will advance as well i guess, raw skill difference should play here.
Solar again drew hard group but Byul bombed out against HyuN and Revival already, so taking PartinG and Solar isn't bad idea i guess.
sOs-SoulKey!!!! FINALLY <3333 Both to advance, idc who will be first and second.
And H is sick. InNoVation and Squirtle to advance, herO is choking a lot nowdays. Poor Leenock though.
6-7-3 distribution in Ro16? Seems legit.
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On April 22 2014 23:13 TameNaken wrote:
Out of the terrans I feel like Bbyong has a very good chance of advancing 2nd. Maru will come out of his group in first place. SuperNova has an easy first match and I think he could take out Byul with his intelligent mech play but Parting is another story.
At first glance Innovation vs herO seems like innovation will lose out but Innovation is 11-3 against hero in games and 6-1 in Sets. Yet so much has changed for both players. I think Innovation will end up losing to herO but i'd strongly favour Inno against Leenock and Squirtle.
So I'm guessing 3 terrans advance with SuNo being the terran ro.32 sacrifice.
The problem for innovation is that hero won last time they played, and the last time Innovation beat him was nearly 8 months ago
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your Country52797 Posts
Official The_Templar predictions:
+ Show Spoiler [Group A] +
TAiLS and Dark will advance because they are the only players with A's in their IDs. TAiLS will get first because his A is a capital letter. Bbyong will edge out Zest in the loser's match because his vowel, o, is slightly closer to an a than e is. This leads to a rematch of Bbyong vs Dark. Bbyong will take a map the second time because the a in dark looks more like an o than an A.
Zest 0-2 TAiLS
Dark 2-0 Bbyong
TAiLS 2-1 Dark
Zest 1-2 Bbyong
Dark 2-1 Bbyong
TAiLS and Dark to advance.
+ Show Spoiler [Group B] +
None of the players have a B in their name. Lowercase b is basically an upside down p, and that means Trap is favored. B has a lot of curves and a vertical line, sort of like g and u, more so g because rotating the g and removing the extra curve leaves a b-shaped character. However, Ragnarok also has an R, which is close to a B. soO will bomb out because his name has no straight lines. So…
soO 0-2 Ragnarok
True 0-2 Trap
Ragnarok 2-1 Trap
soO 0-2 True
True 0-2 Trap
Ragnarok and Trap to advance.
+ Show Spoiler [Group C] +
OF COURSE, this group has Rain and Ruin which are just one letter apart. With not much to go on in this group (none of the letters are close), I predict Stork because K makes the same sound as a C sometimes. I guess u is a sideways c, so I'll predict Ruin as second.
Rain 0-2 Stork
Ruin 2-1 Symbol
Stork 2-1 Ruin
Rain 1-2 Symbol
Ruin 2-1 Symbol
Stork and Ruin to advance.
+ Show Spoiler [Group D] +
Hydra is the clear favorite, as he has a d in his name. D is composed of a straight vertical line and a large 180 degree curve. R has both of those, as does u (depending on how it's written). Classic has both as well with C's and an l and i, but they are separate.
Life 0-2 Rogue
Hydra 2-0 Classic
Rogue 0-2 Hydra
Life 0-2 Classic
Rogue 2-1 Classic
Hydra and Rogue to advance.
+ Show Spoiler [Group E] +
ParalyzE and DongRaeGu advance, DRG in second because some people forget about the e in his name. Maru has no letters close to an e, but Myungsik is bound to have one somewhere, so he'll get third.
Maru 1-2 Myungsik
ParalyzE 2-1 DRG
Myungsik 0-2 Paralyze
Maru 0-2 DRG
Myungsik 0-2 DRG
ParalyzE and DRG to advance.
+ Show Spoiler [Group F] +
Why can't we have more groups like group H of code A (Flash, Hydra, Shine, some other guy)? F has three straight lines. Solar barely even has 3 straight lines in it, ByuL has 6-7ish, PartinG has 7-8ish, SuperNoVa has 9 or so. The numbers occasionally lie.
PartinG 2-1 ByuL
Solar 0-2 SuperNoVa
PartinG 1-2 SuperNoVa
ByuL 2-0 Solar
PartinG 2-1 ByuL
SuperNoVa and PartinG to advance.
+ Show Spoiler [Group G] +
YongHwa is the only one with a g in his name so he gets first place. G is a letter which has both straight lines and curves. Shine is the only one with letters such as these. Soulkey has a u and a y which don't really count that much but certainly more than the all-curve sOs.
sOs 0-2 Shine
YongHwa 2-0 Soulkey
YongHwa 2-0 Shine
sOs 1-2 Soulkey
Shine 2-0 Soulkey
YongHwa and Shine to advance.
+ Show Spoiler [Group H] +
herO has an h so he advances. However, how important is that compared to the perpendicular straight lines in H but not in h? INnoVation and Leenock have these, Leenock less so, so this group will be pretty much determined in the first match.
herO 2-1 INnoVation
Leenock 2-1 Squirtle
herO 2-0 Leenock
INnoVation 2-0 Squirtle
INnoVation 2-1 Leenock
herO and INnoVation to advance.
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Sorry, but group A is the group of death. I can't believe it only has 6 percent of the vote. Dark is an elite Zerg; he's just not well known yet. Zest is the best protoss in the world and Bbyong, as unlikely as it seems, is a top 3 Terran. He's been absolutely tearing it up. He's been playing far better than Innovation.
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Added that Code S starts April 30th into the OP.
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On April 23 2014 10:59 The_Darkness wrote:
Sorry, but group A is the group of death. I can't believe it only has 6 percent of the vote. Dark is an elite Zerg; he's just not well known yet. Zest is the best protoss in the world and Bbyong, as unlikely as it seems, is a top 3 Terran. He's been absolutely tearing it up. He's been playing far better than Innovation.
and Tails? :D
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United States97276 Posts
On April 23 2014 11:31 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 10:59 The_Darkness wrote:
Sorry, but group A is the group of death. I can't believe it only has 6 percent of the vote. Dark is an elite Zerg; he's just not well known yet. Zest is the best protoss in the world and Bbyong, as unlikely as it seems, is a top 3 Terran. He's been absolutely tearing it up. He's been playing far better than Innovation. and Tails? :D
Dark > Leenock
Zest > herO
Bbyong = Innovation
Tails = Squirtle (Squirtle looked pretty terrible lately so he could arguably be worse)
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Shouldn't even be a group of death poll, there's nothing resembling one here.
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Group E is the most tantalizing. Maru and MyungSik the favorites but ParalyzE and DRG can certainly make it interesting.
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Group A for group of death for sure.
Bbyoung is tearing things up lately.
Zest is current champion
Dark has been code s for atleast 2 straight seasons now
Tails has been really good aswell again lately.
Last but not least,
These 4 are all current part of my FPL team (NOT on my anti-team :D), so how could i NOT vote this for team of death
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so group H...how the hell is that even fair
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H is a deadly group by name power thats for sure.
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Squirtle is in dreadful form and Leenock is a shadow of his former self, looks likely for herO and INnoVation to advance imo. However, the fact that they are playing each other first means that one of them could miss out.
I am looking forward to group F the most, that looks exciting, especially with SuNo vs two zergs. Group A could deliver as well.
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On April 23 2014 17:28 Orcasgt24 wrote:
H is a deadly group by name power thats for sure.
How so? Innovation and herO are the clear favorites imo
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On April 23 2014 19:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 17:28 Orcasgt24 wrote:
H is a deadly group by name power thats for sure. How so? Innovation and herO are the clear favorites imo
Squirtle has a big name, and so does Leenock - both GSL finalists and at the time they were finalists, everyone thought they would win.
It's nothing to do with current shape, he was talking 'star power'
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Soulkey in the same group as Shine! D: D: D:
Well, at least he has pretty good chance to not meet him. ^^
Don't know why people are talking about grop H... Innovation and herO are great, but Leenock and Squirtle are very far from being "great"...
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On April 23 2014 19:58 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 19:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 23 2014 17:28 Orcasgt24 wrote:
H is a deadly group by name power thats for sure. How so? Innovation and herO are the clear favorites imo Squirtle has a big name, and so does Leenock - both GSL finalists and at the time they were finalists, everyone thought they would win. It's nothing to do with current shape, he was talking 'star power'
Hm i guess i don't look at it this way. For me Leenock and Squirtle don't really have any "star power" left
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Someone's gonna get tailsed.
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Code S feels so hollow without any TvTs =(
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Nothing deathish yet imo. Each group has at most 2 clear favorites. Ro16 is where the Death is deadliest.
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