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crazyweasel
Profile Joined March 2011
607 Posts
April 13 2014 00:09 GMT
#21
note that in the line up thread roro was facing hush and not effort. whos right here?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-13 00:17:25
April 13 2014 00:12 GMT
#22
On April 13 2014 07:23 Bagration wrote:
Maybe IM isn't playing up to its potential because it's barely a team anymore, just a collection of players playing together. You have IM, then Startale, then HerO and Oz, which represent not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR different teams.

You can't just win stuff by making partnerships with everyone


How does that even make any sense?

If you've been keeping track of their lineups and what Zealously wrote they aren't even making use of their partnerships as much as they should. Curious played in 1 match, Life 2, and HerO 3 for round 2. The majority of their lineup for each match consists of their own people. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not in favor of the partnerships either and would rather they pick up 1-2 more solid players because not much is being gained with them aside from Life (another zerg and possible ace material).

No, it's that Yonghwa, Squirtle and Trap are rather inconsistent atm and everyone's pvp appears to suck. Byul is probably the only player that even with a losing record in the last round, played strong games even in defeat. A guy that showed signs of stability and improvement.

The biggest hole in IM is the lack of racial diversity and a super ace, where only Life and Byul are looking to possibly ascend to being the latter. Ruin is also someone to keep an eye on and will probably be replacing Yonghwa this round (at least I hope).
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 13 2014 00:19 GMT
#23
On April 13 2014 09:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 07:23 Bagration wrote:
Maybe IM isn't playing up to its potential because it's barely a team anymore, just a collection of players playing together. You have IM, then Startale, then HerO and Oz, which represent not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR different teams.

You can't just win stuff by making partnerships with everyone


How does that even make any sense?

If you've been keeping track of their lineups and what Zealously wrote they aren't even making use of their partnerships as much as they should. Curious played in 1 match, Life 2, and HerO 3 for round 2. The majority of their lineup for each match consists of their own people. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not in favor of the partnerships either and would rather they pick up 1-2 more solid players because not much is being gained with them aside from Life (another zerg and possible ace material).

No, it's that Yonghwa, Squirtle and Trap are rather inconsistent atm and everyone's pvp appears to suck. Byul is probably the only player that even with a losing record in the last round, played strong games even in defeat. A guy that showed signs of stability and improvement.

The biggest hole in IM is the lack of racial diversity and a super ace, where only Life and Byul are looking to possibly ascend to being the latter. Ruin is also someone to keep an eye on and will probably be replacing Yonghwa this round (at least I hope).

I think Trap is their strongest player atm. 4-1 last round, and even though his opponents weren't that strong he showed strong play. I think he's their most likely ace along with Byul
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zEEzz
Profile Joined October 2012
93 Posts
April 13 2014 00:37 GMT
#24
seriously

i really expect someone to answer me

where is byun and why isn't he playing ?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 13 2014 00:43 GMT
#25
On April 13 2014 09:37 zEEzz wrote:
seriously

i really expect someone to answer me

where is byun and why isn't he playing ?


I believe there was a blog about it. He's in kespa jail.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-13 00:48:35
April 13 2014 00:46 GMT
#26
On April 13 2014 09:19 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 09:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 13 2014 07:23 Bagration wrote:
Maybe IM isn't playing up to its potential because it's barely a team anymore, just a collection of players playing together. You have IM, then Startale, then HerO and Oz, which represent not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR different teams.

You can't just win stuff by making partnerships with everyone


How does that even make any sense?

If you've been keeping track of their lineups and what Zealously wrote they aren't even making use of their partnerships as much as they should. Curious played in 1 match, Life 2, and HerO 3 for round 2. The majority of their lineup for each match consists of their own people. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not in favor of the partnerships either and would rather they pick up 1-2 more solid players because not much is being gained with them aside from Life (another zerg and possible ace material).

No, it's that Yonghwa, Squirtle and Trap are rather inconsistent atm and everyone's pvp appears to suck. Byul is probably the only player that even with a losing record in the last round, played strong games even in defeat. A guy that showed signs of stability and improvement.

The biggest hole in IM is the lack of racial diversity and a super ace, where only Life and Byul are looking to possibly ascend to being the latter. Ruin is also someone to keep an eye on and will probably be replacing Yonghwa this round (at least I hope).

I think Trap is their strongest player atm. 4-1 last round, and even though his opponents weren't that strong he showed strong play. I think he's their most likely ace along with Byul


It's possible, Trap had a very scary peak in the later part of 2013, but Hirai sending Byul in every single match and Byul even stating that he's switching back to KR to help IM more in SPL leads me to believe he's more likely the ace. I mean he only lost to Classic, sOs, Bbyong (vs mech on outboxer) and Rain which are all forgivable for a slight losing record.

On April 13 2014 09:37 zEEzz wrote:
seriously

i really expect someone to answer me

where is byun and why isn't he playing ?


Byun is just a tall tale used to scare Terran children at night about the dangers of pulling scvs. He isn't actually real.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Fatz
Profile Joined December 2013
United States5 Posts
April 13 2014 02:53 GMT
#27
On April 13 2014 09:09 crazyweasel wrote:
note that in the line up thread roro was facing hush and not effort. whos right here?


Looks like the Samsung vs CJ was copied from round 2 line-up instead of round 3. As further confirmation that the line-up in this post for Samsung vs CJ is wrong, the maps Yeonsu and Polar Night are out for round 3.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 13 2014 03:07 GMT
#28
On April 13 2014 09:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 09:19 Yorkie wrote:
On April 13 2014 09:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 13 2014 07:23 Bagration wrote:
Maybe IM isn't playing up to its potential because it's barely a team anymore, just a collection of players playing together. You have IM, then Startale, then HerO and Oz, which represent not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR different teams.

You can't just win stuff by making partnerships with everyone


How does that even make any sense?

If you've been keeping track of their lineups and what Zealously wrote they aren't even making use of their partnerships as much as they should. Curious played in 1 match, Life 2, and HerO 3 for round 2. The majority of their lineup for each match consists of their own people. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not in favor of the partnerships either and would rather they pick up 1-2 more solid players because not much is being gained with them aside from Life (another zerg and possible ace material).

No, it's that Yonghwa, Squirtle and Trap are rather inconsistent atm and everyone's pvp appears to suck. Byul is probably the only player that even with a losing record in the last round, played strong games even in defeat. A guy that showed signs of stability and improvement.

The biggest hole in IM is the lack of racial diversity and a super ace, where only Life and Byul are looking to possibly ascend to being the latter. Ruin is also someone to keep an eye on and will probably be replacing Yonghwa this round (at least I hope).

I think Trap is their strongest player atm. 4-1 last round, and even though his opponents weren't that strong he showed strong play. I think he's their most likely ace along with Byul


It's possible, Trap had a very scary peak in the later part of 2013, but Hirai sending Byul in every single match and Byul even stating that he's switching back to KR to help IM more in SPL leads me to believe he's more likely the ace. I mean he only lost to Classic, sOs, Bbyong (vs mech on outboxer) and Rain which are all forgivable for a slight losing record.

Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 09:37 zEEzz wrote:
seriously

i really expect someone to answer me

where is byun and why isn't he playing ?


Byun is just a tall tale used to scare Terran children at night about the dangers of pulling scvs. He isn't actually real.


I thought Byun was the last Terran hope that was being hunted down by Rain o.o
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 13 2014 07:22 GMT
#29
Oz gonna ruin antis
Saser
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden66 Posts
April 13 2014 11:19 GMT
#30
On April 13 2014 09:43 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 09:37 zEEzz wrote:
seriously

i really expect someone to answer me

where is byun and why isn't he playing ?


I believe there was a blog about it. He's in kespa jail.


Can you find that blog plz? ;__;
And what do people mean with "KeSPA jail", is he like banned from competing in KeSPA tournaments?
Humans can survive under water. But not for very long.
Rikudou
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany151 Posts
April 13 2014 15:50 GMT
#31
IM doesn't need mroe players, they need a consistent strong core of players. Jin Air has Maru, sOs, and Rogue. SKT has Rain, Parting, and SK, and KT has TY, Flash, Zest, and even Stats. IM has so many names but none of them have the same gravitas as the ones I just mentioned.

They have Life... StartaleLife!!!!
Is this real Life? No, it's StartaleLife!!!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 13 2014 16:00 GMT
#32
On April 13 2014 20:19 Saser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 09:43 Phredxor wrote:
On April 13 2014 09:37 zEEzz wrote:
seriously

i really expect someone to answer me

where is byun and why isn't he playing ?


I believe there was a blog about it. He's in kespa jail.


Can you find that blog plz? ;__;
And what do people mean with "KeSPA jail", is he like banned from competing in KeSPA tournaments?

KeSPA jail is a joke that people with TL+ started (?), basically if someone did something to offend KeSPA they disappeared from PL lineups and such. It's not actually a thing afaik
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Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
April 13 2014 16:44 GMT
#33
April 15th's (P)herO vs. (T)Maru has the potential to be one of the best matches of the season... or herO will just cheese Maru to death. Whatever, we're optimistic!

dude what?

Maru will just straight forward win in what ever situation he is put into.

herO can try but it won't be pretty if you are cheering protoss.

GOGO MARU!!!!!!!!!
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
April 14 2014 19:56 GMT
#34
Hmmm...

I don't agree with the A grade for SKT. Yes, they have an amazing roster, but I think that they need to be punished for not beating every other team (minus KT, JinAir maybe) with that stacked roster. Maybe I'm thinking the grades should factor how well the team is doing with their potential factored in, where the writers don't think that.

I can definitely back the rest of the grades though. Maybe Prime should be over Samsung though considering how hard they fell in round 2 compared to round 1, where Prime actually improved a lot with MKP back.
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
April 14 2014 22:09 GMT
#35
On April 13 2014 20:19 Saser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 09:43 Phredxor wrote:
On April 13 2014 09:37 zEEzz wrote:
seriously

i really expect someone to answer me

where is byun and why isn't he playing ?


I believe there was a blog about it. He's in kespa jail.


Can you find that blog plz? ;__;
And what do people mean with "KeSPA jail", is he like banned from competing in KeSPA tournaments?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/446884-where-in-the-world-is-byun
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Saser
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden66 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 09:09:51
April 15 2014 09:07 GMT
#36
On April 15 2014 07:09 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 20:19 Saser wrote:
On April 13 2014 09:43 Phredxor wrote:
On April 13 2014 09:37 zEEzz wrote:
seriously

i really expect someone to answer me

where is byun and why isn't he playing ?


I believe there was a blog about it. He's in kespa jail.


Can you find that blog plz? ;__;
And what do people mean with "KeSPA jail", is he like banned from competing in KeSPA tournaments?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/446884-where-in-the-world-is-byun


Oh, I thought he meant a serious blog. :p
The blog mentioned that ByuN was at the PL studio once, though. Did that actually happen or is it also made up?
Humans can survive under water. But not for very long.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
April 15 2014 09:17 GMT
#37
Why is CJ a B grade? They have been below par all season long to only get a mini run together in Round 2. To go from challengers for the whole tournament before round 1 as predicted to scrapping for the last play off spot i don't see how a grade B is deserving ;_;
Also IM for their vast roster which has been added even more strength by the StarTale merge, being a C+ again is way to nice. They Should be sat in the D category with Prime.
The rest of the grades seem about right though.

Probably should of had this in op as well;
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ViridianCrystal
Profile Joined January 2014
United States31 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 21:25:16
April 15 2014 21:24 GMT
#38
On April 13 2014 06:39 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Flash seemed like the odds on favorite to be the first one to win them a championship. After all, he won the most games in the first season of SC2 Proleague, and fought his way to a second place finish at 2012's MLG Dallas.

Small mistake here. I believe Flash got second at 2013's MLG Dallas.
Great write-up though. Love the constant updates to keep everyone interested in Proleague.
There will be no justice in this world until SoO wins a gsl.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 15 2014 21:52 GMT
#39
Honestly it was silly of me not to rate CJ A+

they have the Bbyongjwa after all
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