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WCS EU - Ro16 Group C Preview (Season 1)

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WCS EU - Ro16 Group C Preview (Season 1)

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
March 27th, 2014 09:39 GMT
2013 GSL Season 2

WCS Europe 2014
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Ro16: Group C Preview

(P)Welmu, (P)BabyKnight, (Z)TLO, (P)StarDust:

by Waxangel

Two Terrans and two Zergs have earned spots in the quarterfinals so far. Now, it's time to see how many Protoss players can force themselves into the title picture.

With three Protoss players competing in Group C, we're guaranteed at least one Protoss quarterfinalist. Whether or not that number will increase to two depends on the lone Zerg of the group in (Z)Liquid`TLO. The German Zerg player has been a part of the recent European revival movement, doing his part by eliminating Bomber from IEM Sao Paulo and defeating jjakji in the 3rd place match of SeatStory Cup. It's clear that TLO's ZvT is at a very high level, and all the Terran players left in WCS Europe have reason to fear him. However, it's his ZvP that will have to carry him through this Ro16 group.

TLO's ZvP seems quite strong when he's allowed to play longer, macro games. It's also the match up where we see TLO use his creative (there are few surer ways to annoy TLO than to blindly call anything he does "creative") strategies the most, and he's sure to have at least one or two prepared for this all Protoss group. However, I'm not quite sure about how well TLO will be able to hold off Protoss all-ins. While he's not terribly weak against them, his defenses don't seem particularly airtight either. All three of the Protoss players possess excellent micro and can execute all-ins extremely well. That's not good for TLO.

(P)mYI.StarDust, another creative player, will be TLO's initial opponent. StarDust first came to prominence in Europe by using an upgrade-heavy, gateway united oriented PvZ that no one had seen before to win DreamHack Summer. Since then, he's continued to enjoy trying all sorts of all-ins and off-kilter strategies that might catch his opponents off guard. You only need to look at the last few PvZ strats he used at the Vasacast tournamentto get a feel for what he's going to do against TLO: 2base voidrays, 7gate +1 all-in, immortal all-in, immortal all-in, immortal all-in.

Against his fellow Protoss players, StarDust might feel confident as he has a PvP win-rate close to 70% in recent months. However, PvP form has always been capricious thing. Even if a player figures PvP out and wins at a significantly higher rate than his peers for a period, it usually doesn't take long for adapting players and changing trends to bring him back down to earth. StarDust's 1-2 loss to BlinG in the Ro32 might have triggered a fall back into the realm of coin flips.

(P)Mill.BabyKnight could hope that PvP luck, condition, momentum, or dare we say it – skill – is on his side. After becoming somewhat forgotten in a packed field of European players, he's come back to our attention in 2014 through a few PvP series. He tried to rally foreign hope at ASUS ROG Winter with a 3-0 win over Alicia (as a testament to the match-up, he would lose 0-3 in the rematch), while his 2-1 win over French Protoss Lilbow granted him a return to the WCS Europe Ro16 (a win vs ForGG didn't hurt either). A lack of recent tournament matches leaves BabyKnight more shrouded than the other players headed into the group, which may work to his advantage.

On the other hand, his initial opponent (P)NrS.Welmu comes in with a headline grabbing performance. Representing team NewRoSoft in the Acer TeamStory Cup qualifiers, Welmu scored a massive all-kill against the Korean free agent coalition known as the "Bounty Hunters." By defeating HyuN, YoDa, First, and MC (twice) in a single day, Welmu made European fans start to wonder if the string of Europe > Korea upsets in the months prior wasn't just a fluke, but the start of a larger movement.

Given his momentum, Welmu seems like the perfect European to join VortiX and Snute in topping his WCS Ro16 group, but he'll need to get past notorious volatility of the PvP match-up. His recent record doesn't really reassure you: Three wins against MC and First are preceded by losses to KnowMe, Socke, and Russian Protoss AvaTaR. Strange as it seems, European fans might actually have preferred Welmu to play some Koreans instead, as long as they were Terran or Zerg.

Overall Predictions:

Welmu > BabyKnight
TLO > StarDust
Welmu > TLO
StarDust > BabyKnight
TLO > StarDust

Welmu and TLO advance.

Writers: Waxangel.
Graphics: ESL.
Front page photos: ESL.
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 27 2014 09:52 GMT
#2
WELMU!!!

I guess I'm taking my tablet to class tonight...

Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
March 27 2014 09:56 GMT
#3
StarDust,TLO! <3
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1196 Posts
March 27 2014 09:59 GMT
#4
Go Welmu!
starcraft2.fi
Vesimias
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland135 Posts
March 27 2014 10:02 GMT
#5
Welmu fighting! This group will be very even, excited to watch tonight!
Fan of: HerO, Maru, elfi, Welmu, Liquid HerO 4ever<3
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
March 27 2014 10:04 GMT
#6
Poll: Fan favorite?

Welmu (74)
 
43%

Stardust & TLO <3 (53)
 
30%

POLT! AMERICA! (33)
 
19%

Babyknight (14)
 
8%

174 total votes

Your vote: Fan favorite?

(Vote): Stardust & TLO <3
(Vote): POLT! AMERICA!
(Vote): Welmu
(Vote): Babyknight


People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
Kosak
Profile Joined August 2013
Czech Republic193 Posts
March 27 2014 10:06 GMT
#7
unfortunately for TL fans, I have to say that Welmu and Stardust have the biggest chance of advancing trough this, I don't believe that TLO can pull an upset against Protoss as much as he probably could do against Terran
it's good to be the king
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 10:16:41
March 27 2014 10:15 GMT
#8
Yeah it is nuts,,,,NUTS i say to vote against cheese dust!!
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 27 2014 10:22 GMT
#9
Hoping for Welmu and TLO, but no idea what order. Cant decide which second place would be better for VortiX
jacky9185
Profile Joined June 2012
Taiwan27 Posts
March 27 2014 10:23 GMT
#10
Welmu Fight
Taiwanese StarCraft 2 fan.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
March 27 2014 10:30 GMT
#11
Ya Welmu advances in 1st and stardust eliminated....as if....
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
March 27 2014 10:41 GMT
#12
I disagree. Welmu vs Protoss has always been his strong point. Watching his stream regularly and his PvT is not that good (even though he beat MMA) Welmu vs Stardust is way higher chance of welmu advancing than Welmu vs korean terran. His PvZ is also really strong at least in mid game.

I agree with predictions tho

Welmu fighting!!!!
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 27 2014 11:18 GMT
#13
GOGO WELMU
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Rhaeide
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain304 Posts
March 27 2014 11:49 GMT
#14
I think both Welmu & TLO can do it.
♪ www.youtube.com/Rhaeide ♫ LucifroN/VortiX/herO/Scarlett/Flash/EffOrt/BoxeR/Kingdom/Nal_rA
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
March 27 2014 12:04 GMT
#15
Welmu and TLO for sure.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 27 2014 12:07 GMT
#16
Welmu will be first, StarDust second. TLO third and Baby fourth.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 27 2014 12:15 GMT
#17
TLO and Stardust, though Welmu is looking great I gotta go with my heart on this one.
xxxKagexxx
Profile Joined August 2012
France43 Posts
March 27 2014 12:44 GMT
#18
TLo isn't toss he shouldn't pass today i'm off the stream guy to much "pro-toss" héhé
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18519 Posts
March 27 2014 13:06 GMT
#19
Why did TL jinx our foreigners
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 27 2014 13:12 GMT
#20
This is so funny.

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 27 2014 13:32 GMT
#21
Welmu = bee??? Someone explain.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 27 2014 13:34 GMT
#22
On March 27 2014 22:32 Weavel wrote:
Welmu = bee??? Someone explain.

[image loading]
zEEzz
Profile Joined October 2012
93 Posts
March 27 2014 13:47 GMT
#23
tl writers are really excited about the last korean results at europe but i think its too much.. stardust will make it
BlaCha
Profile Joined March 2005
Poland743 Posts
March 27 2014 13:50 GMT
#24
On March 27 2014 22:34 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 22:32 Weavel wrote:
Welmu = bee??? Someone explain.

[image loading]


haha what a perfect beeman )
Of course, fucking of course.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 13:54:44
March 27 2014 13:53 GMT
#25
On March 27 2014 22:34 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 22:32 Weavel wrote:
Welmu = bee??? Someone explain.

[image loading]

His team didnt send team jersey for him. He didnt have in in s1 and s2. About s3 im not sure.

Most important question about this group is. Will he dress his team jersey.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
March 27 2014 14:41 GMT
#26
On March 27 2014 22:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 22:34 NovaMB wrote:
On March 27 2014 22:32 Weavel wrote:
Welmu = bee??? Someone explain.

[image loading]

His team didnt send team jersey for him. He didnt have in in s1 and s2. About s3 im not sure.

Most important question about this group is. Will he dress his team jersey.



Bee yourself, is my advice to Welmu.

I'm also a bit annoyed by people saying every foreign win over a korean player is an upset. It's not if the foreigners are really good...
Cogito, ergo toss.
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
March 27 2014 15:28 GMT
#27
I`m am the only one here who thinks BBK can make it out?
Also TLO plays really well lately. It is maybe the most even group as skill.. it is almost 25%-25%-25%-25%.
Maru | Life | herO
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 27 2014 15:33 GMT
#28
On March 28 2014 00:28 jarod wrote:
I`m am the only one here who thinks BBK can make it out?
Also TLO plays really well lately. It is maybe the most even group as skill.. it is almost 25%-25%-25%-25%.

yes, can but most likely won't
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 27 2014 15:38 GMT
#29
On March 27 2014 18:52 y0su wrote:
WELMU!!!

I guess I'm taking my tablet to class tonight...


aaaand we're having a test. fml
kinsky
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany368 Posts
March 27 2014 15:47 GMT
#30
wow welmu. good choice of shirt. well played. FailFish.

User was warned for this post
kinsky
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany368 Posts
March 27 2014 16:07 GMT
#31
On March 28 2014 00:47 kinsky wrote:
wow welmu. good choice of shirt. well played. FailFish.

User was warned for this post



WARNING! - Please don't use Twitch memes on TL, thanks!

for using the term "wow"?! are you guys fucking nuts?! LOL! LOL!
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 27 2014 16:09 GMT
#32
On March 28 2014 01:07 kinsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 00:47 kinsky wrote:
wow welmu. good choice of shirt. well played. FailFish.

User was warned for this post



WARNING! - Please don't use Twitch memes on TL, thanks!

for using the term "wow"?! are you guys fucking nuts?! LOL! LOL!

The last word you used is a twitch emote, if you didnt know
AccoWand
Profile Joined November 2012
354 Posts
March 27 2014 16:32 GMT
#33
2x PvP and and Welmu is in ro8. Easily my favorite pvp eu player!
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
March 27 2014 16:51 GMT
#34
wow... i missed that all kill... gotta find some vods
Liquid`Snute, AcerScarlett, ROOTCatZ, MC, Maru, Soulkey, Losira
ArtistenSc2
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden53 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 19:09:10
March 27 2014 16:59 GMT
#35
EU RO32 - 8 koreans (25%)
6 passed (3 as 1st and 3 as 2nd in grps)
tot maps koreans vs eu = 13 - 7
(about 35% are won by eu)

EU RO16 - 6 koreans (37,5%)
after two groups :
2 of 3 passed (both 2nd in grp!)
tot maps koreans vs eu : 9 - 7
(about 44% are won by eu)


NA RO32 - 17 koreans (53%)
7 passed (6 as 1st and 1 as 2nd in grps)
tot maps koreans vs na = 24 - 15
(about 38% are won by na)

and if only counting the 4 from USA plus the 4 from CAN (not china, mexico etc) (25%)
1 usa + 2 can passed of 8
tot maps koreans vs can = 7-3 and vs usa = 4-3, total = 11 - 6
(about 35% are won)

NA RO16 - 10 koreans (62,5%)
plus 1 usa + 2 can + 3 china


which translates into foreigners doing pretty good and KR>EU/CHI>NA in the current standing (didnt brk dwn the CHI stats)
Man I wish they would have more regions... change for next year plz, almost necessary for solving NA etc...
look at the percentage of koreans... over 50%, and that's in ro32!, with only 25% usa+can, can worsen as well...

need a new "level", where regions fight regions (would work with more regions) like nationals or just as individuals, used for qualifying into the wcs final (even a more fair system), expanding the set up of the wcs.

:-)

best foreigner ever, Naniwa, WB!!
ArctiCCircle
Profile Joined January 2014
Norway9 Posts
March 27 2014 16:59 GMT
#36
Hoping for Welmu and TLO to advance, but I wouldn't be dissapointed if BabyKnight advanced instead.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 27 2014 17:02 GMT
#37
On March 28 2014 00:28 jarod wrote:
I`m am the only one here who thinks BBK can make it out?
Also TLO plays really well lately. It is maybe the most even group as skill.. it is almost 25%-25%-25%-25%.

I really believe BBK can surprise today. Also I want a Millenium guy in the Ro8. :x
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
ArtistenSc2
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden53 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 17:52:13
March 27 2014 17:32 GMT
#38
whats the chance of Stardust losing 0-2 in matches rly? or losing 2 of 3 matches vs non-koreans this early...
so my brain says its more like Stardust 60
and that leaves us w Welmu 17, TLO 13, BBK 10
but upsets/fast changes happens alot in sc2, love it :-)
best foreigner ever, Naniwa, WB!!
yido
Profile Joined March 2014
United States350 Posts
March 27 2014 17:34 GMT
#39
StarDust will get out of the group, but will drop a map in each match.
gl hf
ArtistenSc2
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden53 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 19:39:41
March 27 2014 17:47 GMT
#40
stardust shines, TLO could have had him in first game but too passive/missed the moment...
TLO vs Welmu might be interestingly, unless welmu chokes... still vote for the lil 1 there though.
best foreigner ever, Naniwa, WB!!
Zprit
Profile Joined July 2013
92 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 18:17:26
March 27 2014 18:16 GMT
#41
Hmm, 3rd EU zerg to advance today?
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
March 27 2014 18:17 GMT
#42
On March 28 2014 03:16 Zprit wrote:
And that's why Zerg use swarmhosts.


Because otherwise when they get outplayed they lose ?
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