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On March 17 2014 06:12 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 06:07 Quakie wrote:On March 17 2014 04:38 tshi wrote:On March 17 2014 04:35 CrazyHunter wrote:Taeja retires and I really won't have much incentive to keep watching SC2  Well, as your signature says... You should watch Maru, he's young and a good terran. I mentioned that he's young because it seems that a lot of Terrans who aren't Avilo get wrist problems because their APM is too high due to DavidKim(sarcasmcuzicantsaykappa). But yeah, wrist injuries are a problem so Maru probably won't get any for a while : ) I wonder, was wrist-problems a issue before SC2 as well? I'm curious, because it seems much more talked about now after SC2. Yes, it was. For example, Flash had surgery three years ago.
He's like, what, the only progamer to have surgery and come back 100% healthy?
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NOOOOOO what?!!?!?!? first naniwa, now taeja? what is the world coming to?!
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On March 17 2014 03:24 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 03:19 SC2Toastie wrote:On March 17 2014 02:49 sc2holar wrote:On March 17 2014 02:42 SC2Toastie wrote:On March 17 2014 02:40 sc2holar wrote:On March 17 2014 02:35 SC2Toastie wrote:On March 17 2014 02:32 sc2holar wrote:On March 17 2014 02:24 SC2Toastie wrote:On March 17 2014 02:22 sc2holar wrote:On March 17 2014 02:19 SC2Toastie wrote:
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So respectless, so clueless... Haha, Would scold someone who said the same about naniwa atm? i think not. This bias is fairly discussing. Where are the haters from the naniwas retirement thread? i expected them to be all over Taeja calling him a spoiled ungrateful brat atm. So, what exactly are you trying to say? this bias is discussing? would scold someone who said the same about naniwa? Ah, you edited. Dat English. I don't give a damn about Naniwa because I find him unsympathetic. He does not interest me and I understand the reaction he is receiving. Taeja on the other hand, is a well accomplished player, one of the best and most consistent in the world. Taeja has been talking about retirement for half a year. Saying 'Taeja is always whining' is thus clueless (he's said this for months) and well as respectless (doesn't need explanation). Pardon me sir, i had some whiskey for the finals. Takes its toll on your spelling. But you are basicly admitting to being biased, and you dont think all retiring players deserve the same respect? Naniwa is also a very accomplished player, so thats sort of irrelevant. I dont mean to attack you pesonaly but i do think this widespread hypocrisy is repulsive. I suppose you can call it bias. I do however not agree all retiring players deserve the same respect. Naniwa has acted like a jerk on so many occasions. If you show no respect to the people who allow for your job to exist, don't be butthurt when they turn on you. Enough is enough, and Naniwa has crossed the line of what most people call acceptable more than once. So, you can call it hate or bias, fact is, Naniwa has a poor reputation which he works hard to sustain, and this time it cost him. And as such, it is not weird people act angry about Naniwa's quirks while they really deeply care about Taeja's future. Lastly, Naniwa may be the most accomplished foreigner (after possibly Jinro), he is still so far behind Taeja it is not even funny. I was about to bring up the fact that Taeja has also done his fair share of whining, bitching and BMing over the years, but i suppose you would just resort to calling me clueless and respectless, am i right? If you compare Taeja's whining and bitching and his accomplishments to Naniwa's, I think I am in my right to call you respectless and clueless, yes. Whoever has the most Accomplishments is not relevant. When a seasoned Starcraft 2 Pro retires, they should not be spat upon. Both Naniwa and Taeja deserve respect, this widespread hypocrisy is revolting. You don't deserve respect; you earn it. Taeja has earned my respect, Naniwa hasn't, Also, ignoring my arguments doesn't make you more credible. You can say a lot of things about Nani, but saying he hasn't earned respect as one of the hardest working foreigners, and the only one to make GSL ones past the beta makes me wonder if it's respect you are talking about or just you not liking his personality. That said, I hope there is a statement made by TL about Taeja's plans, I really like Taeja.
what? Jinro was in the GSL, so was TLO in the earlier ones. We had Stephano at one point as well but that didn't pan out well lol.
On March 17 2014 06:07 Quakie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 04:38 tshi wrote:On March 17 2014 04:35 CrazyHunter wrote:Taeja retires and I really won't have much incentive to keep watching SC2 Well, as your signature says... You should watch Maru, he's young and a good terran. I mentioned that he's young because it seems that a lot of Terrans who aren't Avilo get wrist problems because their APM is too high due to DavidKim(sarcasmcuzicantsaykappa). But yeah, wrist injuries are a problem so Maru probably won't get any for a while : ) I wonder, was wrist-problems a issue before SC2 as well? I'm curious, because it seems much more talked about now after SC2.
yep, Flash as mentioned. I'm actually not sure if other BW progamers have mentioned it though.
On March 17 2014 06:29 Advantageous wrote:
NOOOOOO what?!!?!?!? first naniwa, now taeja? what is the world coming to?!
it was a tweet lol. He's not retiring yet. People do move on and things change so he would've eventually retired especially considering what he wants in life.
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We have no idea whether Flash is back to 100% compared to pre-wrist injury form.
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why retire when
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/I55k8fr.jpg)
at least wait until after... come on taeja
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On March 16 2014 12:00 Loccstana wrote:
Even one of the best meching terrans out there, Avilo, is complaining...
Tell me this is a troll tweet.
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On March 17 2014 06:29 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 03:24 docvoc wrote:On March 17 2014 03:19 SC2Toastie wrote:On March 17 2014 02:49 sc2holar wrote:On March 17 2014 02:42 SC2Toastie wrote:On March 17 2014 02:40 sc2holar wrote:On March 17 2014 02:35 SC2Toastie wrote:On March 17 2014 02:32 sc2holar wrote:On March 17 2014 02:24 SC2Toastie wrote:On March 17 2014 02:22 sc2holar wrote:
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Haha, Would scold someone who said the same about naniwa atm? i think not. This bias is fairly discussing. Where are the haters from the naniwas retirement thread? i expected them to be all over Taeja calling him a spoiled ungrateful brat atm. So, what exactly are you trying to say? this bias is discussing? would scold someone who said the same about naniwa? Ah, you edited. Dat English. I don't give a damn about Naniwa because I find him unsympathetic. He does not interest me and I understand the reaction he is receiving. Taeja on the other hand, is a well accomplished player, one of the best and most consistent in the world. Taeja has been talking about retirement for half a year. Saying 'Taeja is always whining' is thus clueless (he's said this for months) and well as respectless (doesn't need explanation). Pardon me sir, i had some whiskey for the finals. Takes its toll on your spelling. But you are basicly admitting to being biased, and you dont think all retiring players deserve the same respect? Naniwa is also a very accomplished player, so thats sort of irrelevant. I dont mean to attack you pesonaly but i do think this widespread hypocrisy is repulsive. I suppose you can call it bias. I do however not agree all retiring players deserve the same respect. Naniwa has acted like a jerk on so many occasions. If you show no respect to the people who allow for your job to exist, don't be butthurt when they turn on you. Enough is enough, and Naniwa has crossed the line of what most people call acceptable more than once. So, you can call it hate or bias, fact is, Naniwa has a poor reputation which he works hard to sustain, and this time it cost him. And as such, it is not weird people act angry about Naniwa's quirks while they really deeply care about Taeja's future. Lastly, Naniwa may be the most accomplished foreigner (after possibly Jinro), he is still so far behind Taeja it is not even funny. I was about to bring up the fact that Taeja has also done his fair share of whining, bitching and BMing over the years, but i suppose you would just resort to calling me clueless and respectless, am i right? If you compare Taeja's whining and bitching and his accomplishments to Naniwa's, I think I am in my right to call you respectless and clueless, yes. Whoever has the most Accomplishments is not relevant. When a seasoned Starcraft 2 Pro retires, they should not be spat upon. Both Naniwa and Taeja deserve respect, this widespread hypocrisy is revolting. You don't deserve respect; you earn it. Taeja has earned my respect, Naniwa hasn't, Also, ignoring my arguments doesn't make you more credible. You can say a lot of things about Nani, but saying he hasn't earned respect as one of the hardest working foreigners, and the only one to make GSL ones past the beta makes me wonder if it's respect you are talking about or just you not liking his personality. That said, I hope there is a statement made by TL about Taeja's plans, I really like Taeja. what? Jinro was in the GSL, so was TLO in the earlier ones. We had Stephano at one point as well but that didn't pan out well lol.
you're forgetting idra (who made it to the quarters once) and huk (ro8 aswell i think).
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On March 17 2014 08:03 boxerfred wrote:Tell me this is a troll tweet.
That tweet is not factual I cry! You have to select the MSC as well!
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On March 17 2014 06:30 Squat wrote:
We have no idea whether Flash is back to 100% compared to pre-wrist injury form.
Flash came back from wrist surgery and went on a 14 win streak in proleague.
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On March 17 2014 08:03 boxerfred wrote:Tell me this is a troll tweet.
avilo 4-0 sOs
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On March 17 2014 09:45 JohnChoi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 06:30 Squat wrote:
We have no idea whether Flash is back to 100% compared to pre-wrist injury form. Flash came back from wrist surgery and went on a 14 win streak in proleague.
Well, you could also argue that Jangbi and Fantasy began beating him from then on.
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On March 17 2014 12:28 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 09:45 JohnChoi wrote:On March 17 2014 06:30 Squat wrote:
We have no idea whether Flash is back to 100% compared to pre-wrist injury form. Flash came back from wrist surgery and went on a 14 win streak in proleague. Well, you could also argue that Jangbi and Fantasy began beating him from then on.
by the time people were saying jangbi and fantasy were better than flash, he was already practicing sc2 full time according to Tyson.
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On March 17 2014 06:30 Squat wrote:
We have no idea whether Flash is back to 100% compared to pre-wrist injury form.
He seemed to be just fine. The surgery was in 2011/2012 and he killed another season of PL and was the "most wins" player in the previous one. Sure he's not as good at SC2 as he was at BW but his BW playing (right up until the very end) was pretty spectacular.
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On March 17 2014 12:28 Caladbolg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 09:45 JohnChoi wrote:On March 17 2014 06:30 Squat wrote:
We have no idea whether Flash is back to 100% compared to pre-wrist injury form. Flash came back from wrist surgery and went on a 14 win streak in proleague. Well, you could also argue that Jangbi and Fantasy began beating him from then on.
Weren't they probably two of the best players in that era though? Fantasy was undefeated in the last OSL until he met Jangbi.
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Well, since he's wanted to quit for so long already, and the feeling hasn't passed, it's probably best for him to take a break or quit entirely. Especially if he has some wrist problems...
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On March 17 2014 13:23 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 12:28 Caladbolg wrote:On March 17 2014 09:45 JohnChoi wrote:On March 17 2014 06:30 Squat wrote:
We have no idea whether Flash is back to 100% compared to pre-wrist injury form. Flash came back from wrist surgery and went on a 14 win streak in proleague. Well, you could also argue that Jangbi and Fantasy began beating him from then on. Weren't they probably two of the best players in that era though? Fantasy was undefeated in the last OSL until he met Jangbi.
Yes, but in no small part thanks to Flash's decline. Watching Flash throughout his "Godmode" days was really different to the period when Fantasy and Jangbi began to dominate. Flash was less innovative with his builds (less timing attacks, playing really predictable, etc) and, as JohnChoi said, he was probably practicing SC2 fulltime at that point. I have little doubt that if SC2 hadn't become the flagship game for KeSPA and if it wasn't being pushed to supplant BW, Flash would have continued "regaining" his pre-surgery form, which would've prevented Jangbi and/or Fantasy from dominating the last two OSLs.
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please please please it is not true right? It is a joke ? I could feel the overall disapointment on the final game sOs vs Taeja , a feel of total impotence but i wouldn't imagine he will retire after this !
We love you Taeja! Please continue to play you are one of the most entertaining player it is a pleasure to look at your games!
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On March 16 2014 22:02 holmesgenius wrote:
sOs could be another InnoVation if blink nerf releases
nah, he will just mass carriers.
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taeja might be a little whiny, but I love to watch him play.
He's one of the few top terrrans that uses ghosts effectively against protoss and micro them like god, which makes ghosts look so OP at his hands.
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You can only "play through the pain" for a limited time. (I speak from experience).
I hope Taeja can find a way to recover from his injury. He's one of my favorite Korean Terran's.
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