EPTState offically joins Prime! - Page 3
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
On March 07 2014 05:07 Zealously wrote: I know Prime fans aren't all there but surely you don't equate one players win over Life (in a minor tournament) in the latter's worst match-up to four players in Code S and one making the Ro8? Let's just call it 8 players in Code S. STIM for life! This also grants ST 2 GSL victories. | ||
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ThomasjServo
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Hahahaha I just had to give you some kind of mess about it Fusilero. | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On March 07 2014 05:07 Zealously wrote: I know Prime fans aren't all there but surely you don't equate one players win over Life (in a minor tournament) in the latter's worst match-up to four players in Code S and one making the Ro8? My claim was that Creator is better than any ST player at this period. I backed it up with the fact he won a tournament stacked with ST players, beating ST's best player 5-1 in 2 matches en being a top 3 player in PL, while not 1 ST player has a positive winrate in this league (OK they just joined). I think this backs up my statement quite well | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Gen.Rolly
United States200 Posts
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Holdenintherye
Canada1441 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 07 2014 05:12 Lorning wrote: My claim was that Creator is better than any ST player at this period. I backed it up with the fact he won a tournament stacked with ST players, beating ST's best player 5-1 in 2 matches en being a top 3 player in PL, while not 1 ST player has a positive winrate in this league (OK they just joined). I think this backs up my statement quite well And your claim is wrong because, surprise surprise, Creator is Code B (didn't make Code A) and Life is Code S Ro8. Unless we're talking strictly PvZ/ZvP, in which case it might not be as clear-cut. | ||
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partydude89
1850 Posts
On March 07 2014 05:12 Lorning wrote: My claim was that Creator is better than any ST player at this period. I backed it up with the fact he won a tournament stacked with ST players, beating ST's best player 5-1 in 2 matches en being a top 3 player in PL, while not 1 ST player has a positive winrate in this league (OK they just joined). I think this backs up my statement quite well And I'm saying that right now Life is in the Ro8 of GSL and ZvP is his worst matchup while it's creator's best. http://www.aligulac.com/players/2-Creator/ http://www.aligulac.com/players/3-Life/ | ||
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NET
United States703 Posts
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AWalker9
United Kingdom7229 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On March 07 2014 05:17 Zealously wrote: And your claim is wrong because, surprise surprise, Creator is Code B (didn't make Code A) and Life is Code S Ro8. Unless we're talking strictly PvZ/ZvP, in which case it might not be as clear-cut. On March 07 2014 05:18 partydude89 wrote: And I'm saying that right now Life is in the Ro8 of GSL and ZvP is his worst matchup while it's creator's best. http://www.aligulac.com/players/2-Creator/ http://www.aligulac.com/players/3-Life/ Because players in the Ro8 of GSL are always better than people in Code B/A. You guys must have considered InCa to be the best protoss in the world at some point | ||
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ArTiFaKs
United States1229 Posts
On March 07 2014 05:17 Zealously wrote: And your claim is wrong because, surprise surprise, Creator is Code B (didn't make Code A) and Life is Code S Ro8. Unless we're talking strictly PvZ/ZvP, in which case it might not be as clear-cut. Creator is NOT better than Life, he just isn't and that's a fact. Major beat TaeJa 2-0 in WCS America but no one is claiming MajOr is better than TaeJa are they? The argument that he beat him in 1 tournament that one time is so flawed it's not even funny. Creator playing well in PvP (pretty much his only good matchup, that he's luckily drawn almost every game this round) where he can just play super defensively while his opponent gets impatient and suicides their army doesn't necessarily make him a "great" player all of a sudden. And doing hidden all-ins on a 4 player map isn't really the most impressive thing in the world either. Creator has a long way to go to prove that he has turned into a great player before he will be taken seriously, Life has done it for a much longer time and is proving it in Individual leagues/tournaments where it matters. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On March 07 2014 05:26 ArTiFaKs wrote: Creator is NOT better than Life, he just isn't and that's a fact. Major beat TaeJa 2-0 in WCS America but no one is claiming MajOr is better than TaeJa are they? The argument that he beat him in 1 tournament that one time is so flawed it's not even funny. Creator playing well in PvP (pretty much his only good matchup, that he's luckily drawn almost every game this round) where he can just play super defensively while his opponent gets impatient and suicides their army doesn't necessarily make him a "great" player all of a sudden. And doing hidden all-ins on a 4 player map isn't really the most impressive thing in the world either. Creator has a long way to go to prove that he has turned into a great player before he will be taken seriously, Life has done it for a much longer time and is proving it in Individual leagues/tournaments where it matters. Yes, cause Creator has never ended far in a major offline tournament. Let stand win one... And Creator not being better than Life cause it's a fact. Please, I gave you enough reasons, and it's not only the online cup | ||
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TheFlock
United States389 Posts
State fighting! | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 07 2014 05:24 Lorning wrote: Because players in the Ro8 of GSL are always better than people in Code B/A. You guys must have considered InCa to be the best protoss in the world at some point Creator's road this GSL (Code A Quals Ro2): 2-0 Legend 2-1 Impact 0-2 Cure 1-2 Zest Life's road this GSL (Code S Ro8): 2-1 Paralyze 0-2 Squirtle 2-0 Paralyze 2-1 YongHwa 2-0 Dark 2-0 Roro 0-2 sOs 2-0 Roro But hey, since recent results don't always say everything, let's look at last year! Creator's results last year: Ro32 2013 GSL Season 1 Ro32 MLG Winter Championship Ro32 2013 WCS KR Season 1 Life's results last year: 1st Iron Squid Chapter 2 1st MLG Winter Championship Ro16 2013 GSL Season 1 Ro16 2013 WCS KR Season 1 Ro32 2013 WCS KR Season 2 Ro4 Dreamhack Bucharest 1st IEM New York 2nd Dreamhack Winter Ro4 ASUS NorthCon Ro8 ASUS Winter Honestly, the only metric that you could use to call Creator a superior player is their head-to-head record. Which, if it were the other way around, I'm sure you'd agree doesn't say very much. Creator has looked pretty good in Proleague, but saying he's better than Life is about as true as saying that MKP would have beaten Parting in the first game >.> | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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BadAim
Norway879 Posts
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