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WCS EU - Ro32 Group G Preview (Season 1)

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WCS EU - Ro32 Group G Preview (Season 1)

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Ro32: Group G Preview

(T)Mvp, (Z)FireCake, (Z)Snute, (P)HasuObs

by Waxangel

Over the last six WCS Europe Ro32 groups, the average length of a broadcast has been approximately four hours and forty minutes. Such lengthy broadcasts have long ago ceased to daunt followers of esports, who are some of the most passionate fans in the world. However, the player list of WCS Europe's Group G is enough to give even such devoted fans reason to fear for their sanity.

Mvp. FireCake. Snute. HasuObs. They are not the four horsemen of the apocalypse, but it may very well take until the end of the world for them to finish their games.

(T)IM_Mvp: The greatest SC2 player of all time is famous for his preference for playing macro games, and he was a pioneer of mech play in both TvT and TvZ. He's also notorious for being completely unafraid of cheesing in important matches, which means Mvp's series could be very long or very short.

Mvp's chance of getting out of this group is unclear as well. It's safe to say this is the most mysterious Mvp we've seen. He has only played a single official game in the new year, that being an SCV-pull win against Samsung's eMotion in Proleague. In 2014, every other Terran seems to have benefitted from using a modified version of Mvp's banshee-mech, but we didn't have a chance to see Mvp use it himself. If we look at Mvp's slightly dated tournament results from late 2013, his form was erratic as usual. He had convincing wins against players strong players like Curious, mixed with equally one-sided losses to players like Jaedong and CJ_herO.

The one result that sticks out above the rest is Mvp's elimination at the hands of ShoWTimE in the previous WCS Europe tournament. Some would disregard it as a one-off, fluke result. Others could see it as evidence that while Mvp still has a high ceiling, his floor continues to sink.

(Z)Vega.FireCake: FireCake is the main reason this group inspires terror in the hearts of StarCraft fans around the world. The French Zerg was a participant in the longest StarCraft 2 game of all time, showing everyone how annoying swarm host turtling could be before it went mainstream. Afterward, a 2 hour long ZvZ swarm host war against Stephano on ladder confirmed FireCake's reputation as the world's most loathsome player.

That said, it's not like like FireCake is some kind of twisted deviant, intentionally trying to make every game he plays go past the 1 hour mark. He has a good knowledge of the maps and the current meta, and is completely capable of playing a more active style as needed. It's just that when he's put in a position where swarm hosts are the best option, he becomes the most patient player in the world. Depending on how the match-ups play out, and what compositions FireCake's opponents use, we might not even see a swarm host game from him at all.

Yet, secretly, isn't an excruciatingly long FireCake game what we're all hoping for?

(Z)Liquid`Snute: Snute is the outsider in this group. Of the all the players, he's the one who has the least reputation for producing long, grueling games. It's somewhat ironic considering the fact that he was one of the first Zergs to experiment with and utilize swarm hosts, but he's developed a more tolerable playstyle over time.

Snute is our not-so-sneaky, not-so-underdog pick to make it out of this group. Similar to VortiX, he's what we ironically call the "faceless foreigner," an international player who prefers to do his talking through his play rather than antics on the stage or social media. A brief look at his stats on Aligulac.com show that while he's stayed out of the spotlight, he's maintained a very high level of play.

(P)mouz.HasuObs: Alongside FireCake, HasuObs is the main reason we're afraid of watching this group from start to end. Over nearly four years of StarCraft 2, HasuObs has established a reputation of being playing a style that is unmatched in terms of safety and patience. "Counter-attack" is a word that simply does not exist in the German Protoss' vocabulary. And who can blame him? Riding an advantage to a fifty minute win is the same as a twenty minute win.

Like Snute, HasuObs has never been a player to command the the spotlight. But quietly, he's enjoying some of the best form in his SC2 career. As a player who reached the WCS Europe Ro8 in 2013, one has to seriously consider the possibility that he could do it again.

As an side, StarCraft 2 fans around the world will be looking on with an almost perverse fascination to see if HasuObs vs. Firecake happens. That's the series that has the potential to break records and tax our patience. And we mean that in a good way!

Predictions:

Mvp > FireCake
Snute > HasuObs
Mvp > Snute
HasuObs > FireCake
Snute > HasuObs

Mvp and Snute advance.


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robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
March 04 2014 06:36 GMT
#2
Time for some MVP Fanboy tears, if he falls victim to the cross server lag.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
March 04 2014 06:39 GMT
#3
Rooting for Snute! This group is really going to be exiting! (I hope!)
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 04 2014 06:39 GMT
#4
I'm disappointed there's no prediction for how long the group will take.
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Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
March 04 2014 06:43 GMT
#5
Mvp > Firecake
Snute > Hasuobs
Snute > Mvp
Hasuobs > Firecake(in approximately 7 hours)
Hasuobs > Mvp

The king is dead.
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Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 06:55:47
March 04 2014 06:54 GMT
#6
WCS EU Group G: March 4th-5th, 2014
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Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
March 04 2014 07:06 GMT
#7
On March 04 2014 15:39 Plexa wrote:
I'm disappointed there's no prediction for how long the group will take.


i second this.
and for once i also agree with the predicitions :O
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 04 2014 07:08 GMT
#8
Hasuobs started all-inning Zergs because he couldnt be bothered with Swarm Hosts. This group will be shorter than all of you think.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
March 04 2014 07:12 GMT
#9
On March 04 2014 16:08 NovaMB wrote:
Hasuobs started all-inning Zergs because he couldnt be bothered with Swarm Hosts. This group will be shorter than all of you think.


Ain't nobody got time for that?
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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1894 Posts
March 04 2014 07:16 GMT
#10
Go Jürgen! Make us Germans proud!!!
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
March 04 2014 07:17 GMT
#11
Predictions:

Mvp > FireCake
Snute > HasuObs
Mvp > Snute
HasuObs > FireCake
Snute > HasuObs

Mvp and Snute advance.

Classic Wax - you better be right son!
Also i hope HasuObs vs FireCake happens.. Because i am one twisted dude!
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
March 04 2014 07:18 GMT
#12
Is there a record for longest round-robin group?
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
March 04 2014 07:39 GMT
#13
Rooting for EU again, EU fighting!
Die-hard KeSPA fan
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
March 04 2014 08:08 GMT
#14
FireCake will make it, first to say it.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 08:25:03
March 04 2014 08:22 GMT
#15
Is MVP playing from Korea or Europe? IIRC last time he played from Korea he did not advanced to RO16, did he?
(my memory is really bad .))
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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
March 04 2014 08:31 GMT
#16
On March 04 2014 17:22 deacon.frost wrote:
Is MVP playing from Korea or Europe? IIRC last time he played from Korea he did not advanced to RO16, did he?
(my memory is really bad .))

Indeed I assume he's in Korea right now because of Proleague. Best of luck to Mvppppppp!
jjakji fan
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
March 04 2014 09:17 GMT
#17
Hopefully, there won`t be any draws after two hours of swarmhosts vs tempests/raven extravaganza.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
March 04 2014 09:56 GMT
#18
On March 04 2014 17:22 deacon.frost wrote:
Is MVP playing from Korea or Europe? IIRC last time he played from Korea he did not advanced to RO16, did he?
(my memory is really bad .))


He was in the PL studio so yeah.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
TTBest
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany74 Posts
March 04 2014 10:16 GMT
#19
Hoping for Mvp and Hasu to advance, but i think Waxangel is going to be right with his own prediction
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 04 2014 10:16 GMT
#20
Good luck Mvp. Going to be tough
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Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
March 04 2014 10:21 GMT
#21
My body is ready.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
March 04 2014 10:23 GMT
#22
Lets do this mvp!!!!!!!!!
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
HighArT
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia189 Posts
March 04 2014 10:23 GMT
#23
Go swarmhosts!
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
March 04 2014 10:32 GMT
#24
Snute and Hasuobs!
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vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
March 04 2014 10:41 GMT
#25
Mvp can do this. He doesn't fear your dainty "cross-server lag".
Bring it home, Jürgen!
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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3383 Posts
March 04 2014 10:44 GMT
#26
My prediction is HasuObs and Snute, though Firecake could pull some upsets, which could cause MVP to go through instead of Snute.
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 04 2014 10:45 GMT
#27
I really, really hope Mvp makes it out, preferably in first place SC2 wouldn't be the same without Mvp producing another miracle somehow. Next up rooting for Snute, I'm not sure how his ZvZ is but I think his ZvP is solid enough to get Hasu and on Mvp's worst days his ZvT is probably strong enough as well.
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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
March 04 2014 10:49 GMT
#28
HasuObs doesn't play long games anymore against Zerg since he is sick of swarmhosts and almost only all-ins again them. Will be an interesting group
Zetter
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany629 Posts
March 04 2014 12:04 GMT
#29
MVP and HasuObs will advance, making Germany proud.
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urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
March 04 2014 12:41 GMT
#30
Prediction:

MvP wins against Firecake, but the game becomes the longest in history.
After that, MvP is too exhausted to play the other matches.

Firecake and Snute proceed to the next round.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12391 Posts
March 04 2014 13:02 GMT
#31
we need your games Mvp, please go through the group
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IMScientist
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy125 Posts
March 04 2014 13:06 GMT
#32
Go MVP \(^o^)/
This guy plays like he was sent down from heavens
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 13:39:39
March 04 2014 13:14 GMT
#33
Firecake needs to go through (in the most ugly manner). We need a bad guy in the ro16.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 04 2014 13:52 GMT
#34
Mvp > FireCake
Snute < HasuObs
HasuObs > Mvp
FireCake < Snute
Snute > Mvp

HasuObs and Snute advance.
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astray71
Profile Joined February 2012
United States325 Posts
March 04 2014 14:01 GMT
#35
The king will rise again!
There is no victory without the blessing of god, and there is no god but Madlife.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
March 04 2014 14:02 GMT
#36
MVP and snute gogogogo
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monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
March 04 2014 14:07 GMT
#37
why arent korean's (from korea) using VPN against the lags? they can fix the lags easily with VPN and wouldnt take a risk...
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
March 04 2014 14:11 GMT
#38
MVP and Snute should advance. Hasu could also. I feel like MVP and Nestea are both in a strange place with HOTS, like they have good ideas but they aren't executing them that great.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
March 04 2014 14:12 GMT
#39
LET'S GO MVP!!!!!!!
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 04 2014 14:12 GMT
#40
VPN doesn't really fix the lag unless you have a pretty solid line. I'm not sure what MVP's connection is like, but he could very well have a strong enough line to support a VPN. Could be other issues too, I'm shit at computers so I wouldn't know, but something tells me if it were that simple loads of other Koreans would have done it already.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 04 2014 14:28 GMT
#41
On March 04 2014 15:20 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
(Z)Liquid`Snute: Snute is the outsider in this group. Of the all the players, he's the one who has the least reputation for producing long, grueling games. It's somewhat ironic considering the fact that he was one of the first Zergs to experiment with and utilize swarm hosts, but he's developed a more tolerable playstyle over time.

huh? Doesn't Snute play long, drawn out ZvP's with swarm host camp?
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TheInsane
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada15 Posts
March 04 2014 14:32 GMT
#42
HasuObs vs. FireCake on Alterzim Stronghold, Go!
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jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
March 04 2014 14:44 GMT
#43
Good luck to Mvp! I hope he comes out in first here.

I see so little of Mvp it is hard to predict how he is going to do, but I hope he has been working hard and is in good form.
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tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
March 04 2014 14:57 GMT
#44
I look forward to watching the Second-half when I get home, at six.

Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 15:08:52
March 04 2014 15:03 GMT
#45

HasuObs vs. FireCake on Alterzim Stronghold, Go!.

It would be like the Trail of Tears of immortal all ins, trecking all the way across the map
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
March 04 2014 15:26 GMT
#46
On March 04 2014 23:57 tili wrote:
I look forward to watching the Second-half when I get home, at six.



If you are "lucky" you might still catch the later stages of the first map.
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
March 04 2014 15:42 GMT
#47
so hyped for Mvp =D
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 04 2014 15:45 GMT
#48
Been out of it for a while, any word on what kind of shape Mvp's wrists and health are in?
anestetic
Profile Joined October 2013
13 Posts
March 04 2014 15:54 GMT
#49
On March 05 2014 00:26 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 23:57 tili wrote:
I look forward to watching the Second-half when I get home, at six.



If you are "lucky" you might still catch the later stages of the first map.


Actually he will get to the midgame lol :D :D
PrivateGG
Profile Joined January 2014
France8 Posts
March 04 2014 16:03 GMT
#50
FireCake is the french Naniwa, the most hated player on the french scene. You have to give him that : playing at high level while most starcraft player in your country think you are a bastard that only play 3-hour long games is kinda hard...
bra bra bra
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
March 04 2014 16:12 GMT
#51
The difference is that Nani is a polarizing player whereas literally noone is a fan of Firecake. On the other hand, villains are good for every sport ;-)
Tsend
Profile Joined June 2012
France44 Posts
March 04 2014 16:59 GMT
#52
Gogo firecake <3
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 04 2014 17:15 GMT
#53
Well... this is going to hurt for Firecake.
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
March 04 2014 17:18 GMT
#54
Snute and Hasuobs to hold, IMO
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Obender99
Profile Joined September 2012
United States31 Posts
March 04 2014 17:19 GMT
#55
Dear MVP,

Please show up and win.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 17:36:17
March 04 2014 17:36 GMT
#56
wrong thread
Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
March 04 2014 19:01 GMT
#57
On March 04 2014 15:43 Wingblade wrote:
Mvp > Firecake
Snute > Hasuobs
Snute > Mvp
Hasuobs > Firecake(in approximately 7 hours)
Hasuobs > Mvp

The king is dead.


You were saying?
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KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
March 04 2014 19:25 GMT
#58
What the hell is happening to those dudes saying HasuObs and MVP without Snute?, maybe this is a fanboy attitudes but Snute is fighting, and he's a member of our house: Teamliquid. Snute fighting...

1st Snute
2nd MVP

Please.
Jinro, Polt, Bomber, ForGG, MajOr, Flash, Maru. Terran Fighting...
Obender99
Profile Joined September 2012
United States31 Posts
March 04 2014 20:04 GMT
#59
Good work MVP, now Snute in 2nd place please.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 21:54:01
March 04 2014 21:53 GMT
#60
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hfsrj
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany166 Posts
March 05 2014 14:59 GMT
#61
Actually, I really like firecake. He is very smart, usually makes really good decisions, and seems like a nice enough fellow, who's playing *only part time*.

But it turns out that the only option to defeat a good toss is SH. Sure, mutas can do damage, and an ultra transition can take opponents off guard. But to really kill a toss, you need SH. It's just that simple, but he recognized earlier and most, and has the skill and patience to apply it safely but surely.

Hate him sure... The truth is usually the ugly one
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