• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:00
CEST 11:00
KST 18:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes172BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time SC4ALL: A North American StarCraft LAN Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Stellar Fest KSL Week 80 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
StarCraft Stellar Forces had bad maps ASL ro8 Upper Bracket HYPE VIDEO Starcraft: Destruction expansion pack? StarCraft - Stratospace. Very rare expansion pack BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2040 users

Leaving StarCraft (IdrA) - Page 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
849 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 41 42 43 Next All
Tryxtira
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden572 Posts
February 03 2014 18:59 GMT
#81
Thank you for everything Greg. Such a character. I always loved to follow you on your journeys. Good luck with life!
n0ave
Profile Joined January 2011
180 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 19:03:15
February 03 2014 19:00 GMT
#82
On February 04 2014 03:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 03:28 MadJack wrote:
On February 04 2014 03:14 IdrA wrote:
A couple thousand dollars for a weekend of talking about a game seems nice, but when it happens maybe once a month it is not a good way to live.


Hey ill take those couple thousand for working as a caster 9 to 9, 6 days a week, for two monts worth of work, and im not even joking.


Even if you could get that much work, which you can't, that is terrible pay compared to almost any other job in the US. Assuming 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and 9 weeks into 2 months, that's $3.08 an hour, disgustingly low.



3$ an hour as a caster? Really?

it's more like 35-40$, plus accommodation.

Your comment disgust me TB, I understand that you become a Youtube star and you are making a tone of money, but if you don't find casting to be rewarding please stop and spend those weekends to improve your Youtube channel.
I like your "WTF is" youtube show, but your starcraft 2 commentary was always mediocre since you never really understood this game.

User was warned for this post
Skamtet
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada634 Posts
February 03 2014 19:01 GMT
#83
On February 04 2014 03:38 purakushi wrote:
Best of luck. BW forever.
you write this when you joined tl.net 2012 and jerking over starbow

must suck being mentally deficient

User was warned for this post
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
February 03 2014 19:02 GMT
#84
On February 04 2014 04:00 n0ave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 03:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On February 04 2014 03:28 MadJack wrote:
On February 04 2014 03:14 IdrA wrote:
A couple thousand dollars for a weekend of talking about a game seems nice, but when it happens maybe once a month it is not a good way to live.


Hey ill take those couple thousand for working as a caster 9 to 9, 6 days a week, for two monts worth of work, and im not even joking.


Even if you could get that much work, which you can't, that is terrible pay compared to almost any other job in the US. Assuming 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and 9 weeks into 2 months, that's $3.08 an hour, disgustingly low.



3$ an hour as a caster? Really?

it's more like 35-40$, plus accommodation.

Your comment disgust me TB, I understand that you become a Youtube star and you are making a tone of money, but if you don't find casting to be rewarding please stop and spend those weekends to improve your Youtube channel.
I like your WTF youtube show, but your starcraft 2 commentary was always mediocre since you never really understood this game.

Dude, you've got to be more subtle when you're trying to troll.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 03 2014 19:03 GMT
#85
On February 04 2014 04:00 n0ave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 03:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On February 04 2014 03:28 MadJack wrote:
On February 04 2014 03:14 IdrA wrote:
A couple thousand dollars for a weekend of talking about a game seems nice, but when it happens maybe once a month it is not a good way to live.


Hey ill take those couple thousand for working as a caster 9 to 9, 6 days a week, for two monts worth of work, and im not even joking.


Even if you could get that much work, which you can't, that is terrible pay compared to almost any other job in the US. Assuming 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and 9 weeks into 2 months, that's $3.08 an hour, disgustingly low.



3$ an hour as a caster? Really?

it's more like 35-40$, plus accommodation.

Your comment disgust me TB, I understand that you become a Youtube star and you are making a tone of money, but if you don't find casting to be rewarding please stop and spend those weekends to improve your Youtube channel.
I like your WTF youtube show, but your starcraft 2 commentary was always mediocre since you never really understood this game.


Learn to read?
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
February 03 2014 19:03 GMT
#86
Another legend down.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Dranak
Profile Joined July 2011
United States464 Posts
February 03 2014 19:04 GMT
#87
On February 04 2014 04:00 n0ave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 03:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On February 04 2014 03:28 MadJack wrote:
On February 04 2014 03:14 IdrA wrote:
A couple thousand dollars for a weekend of talking about a game seems nice, but when it happens maybe once a month it is not a good way to live.


Hey ill take those couple thousand for working as a caster 9 to 9, 6 days a week, for two monts worth of work, and im not even joking.


Even if you could get that much work, which you can't, that is terrible pay compared to almost any other job in the US. Assuming 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and 9 weeks into 2 months, that's $3.08 an hour, disgustingly low.



3$ an hour as a caster? Really?

it's more like 35-40$, plus accommodation.

Your comment disgust me TB, I understand that you become a Youtube star and you are making a tone of money, but if you don't find casting to be rewarding please stop and spend those weekends to improve your Youtube channel.
I like your WTF youtube show, but your starcraft 2 commentary was always mediocre since you never really understood this game.


TB said that's what working 12 hr/day, 6 day/week for two months for $2k would average out to, and he's right. I'm sure he knows better than you or I what casting at a major event actually pays while you're there.
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 19:05:04
February 03 2014 19:04 GMT
#88
Wise choice, good luck
England will fight to the last American
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 03 2014 19:05 GMT
#89
NO other person in esports was as enjoyable to cheer for than Idra.

FUCK IT

I HOPE ANOTHER RTS ESPORTS COMES OUT THAT IDRA LIKES AND HE COMES BACK THOUGH THIS IS A VERY FAR OFF DREAM SO I'LL LEAVE IT at that.



q_q
maru lover forever
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
February 03 2014 19:05 GMT
#90
On February 04 2014 04:00 n0ave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 03:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On February 04 2014 03:28 MadJack wrote:
On February 04 2014 03:14 IdrA wrote:
A couple thousand dollars for a weekend of talking about a game seems nice, but when it happens maybe once a month it is not a good way to live.


Hey ill take those couple thousand for working as a caster 9 to 9, 6 days a week, for two monts worth of work, and im not even joking.


Even if you could get that much work, which you can't, that is terrible pay compared to almost any other job in the US. Assuming 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and 9 weeks into 2 months, that's $3.08 an hour, disgustingly low.



3$ an hour as a caster? Really?

it's more like 35-40$, plus accommodation.

Your comment disgust me TB, I understand that you become a Youtube star and you are making a tone of money, but if you don't find casting to be rewarding please stop and spend those weekends to improve your Youtube channel.
I like your WTF youtube show, but your starcraft 2 commentary was always mediocre since you never really understood this game.


Jesus peoples reading comprehensions are low, total biscuit is breaking down the math for the guy who said he take 2k to work 72 hours x 4 weeks. You only make yourself look stupid by attacking total biscuit. But i get ir, hes an "internet" personality so you get the right to shit on him when ever you want. Heres an idea, if you dont like his casting of sc2, dont watch it.

GG idra, ill always remember getting 0-2'd by you in WCG qualifiers in bw. Hope everything works out for ya.
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
InFaMOUs331
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
42 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 19:16:09
February 03 2014 19:05 GMT
#91
I am not sure if Idra will enjoy school. I hope he returns for LOTV, or Starbow whenever that blows up.

Who knows, maybe that RTS game day9/Artillery are working on will make people return to esports.
n0ave
Profile Joined January 2011
180 Posts
February 03 2014 19:06 GMT
#92
On February 04 2014 04:04 Dranak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 04:00 n0ave wrote:
On February 04 2014 03:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On February 04 2014 03:28 MadJack wrote:
On February 04 2014 03:14 IdrA wrote:
A couple thousand dollars for a weekend of talking about a game seems nice, but when it happens maybe once a month it is not a good way to live.


Hey ill take those couple thousand for working as a caster 9 to 9, 6 days a week, for two monts worth of work, and im not even joking.


Even if you could get that much work, which you can't, that is terrible pay compared to almost any other job in the US. Assuming 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and 9 weeks into 2 months, that's $3.08 an hour, disgustingly low.



3$ an hour as a caster? Really?

it's more like 35-40$, plus accommodation.

Your comment disgust me TB, I understand that you become a Youtube star and you are making a tone of money, but if you don't find casting to be rewarding please stop and spend those weekends to improve your Youtube channel.
I like your WTF youtube show, but your starcraft 2 commentary was always mediocre since you never really understood this game.


TB said that's what working 12 hr/day, 6 day/week for two months for $2k would average out to, and he's right. I'm sure he knows better than you or I what casting at a major event actually pays while you're there.


Does he work 12 hr/day 6 day/week for $2k?

No, it's more like around 12 hr /day , 4-5 day.

Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 23:33:43
February 03 2014 19:06 GMT
#93
Going back to school, very useful talent toi have.

You are one of the few people who won't be forgotten, I wish you all the best.
Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude / Beckett Industries / Waterfall
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 03 2014 19:07 GMT
#94
Best of luck in school!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 03 2014 19:08 GMT
#95
On February 04 2014 04:01 Skamtet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 03:38 purakushi wrote:
Best of luck. BW forever.
you write this when you joined tl.net 2012 and jerking over starbow

must suck being mentally deficient


?

Really get tired of seeing posters call out other posters when they themselves have no idea what the situation is. Purakushi has been around a while. I'm not sure if you forgot about this in your haste to call out another poster...but sometimes people lurk for long periods of time, or even ask to have a new account.

Perhaps you would be better served making sure you understand the situation before flaming other posters.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Dirtyharry
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany171 Posts
February 03 2014 19:08 GMT
#96
Good Luck Idra, all the best for you!
I was in Ravenholm
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
February 03 2014 19:09 GMT
#97
Glad to see that you finally are done with this horrible game, I made the same decision myself about 6 months ago. Even though you are probably still going to "hang around", I will for sure remember you from the BW era, and try to forget everything after that. I think it was a really brave decision to go to Korea by yourself, especially considering your age at the time, watching you there kinda got me into Brood War and Korean culture in general, and I would like to thank you for that.

Long live BW and normal people.
In life you can obtain all sorts of material wealth, but the real treasure is the epic feelings you get while doing something you love.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
February 03 2014 19:09 GMT
#98
On February 04 2014 04:01 Skamtet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 03:38 purakushi wrote:
Best of luck. BW forever.
you write this when you joined tl.net 2012 and jerking over starbow

must suck being mentally deficient


Just to give the benefit of the doubt to the guy, you can also get into BW today or 1-2 years ago and love the game just as much as someone who was around back in the day.
MyaurA
Profile Joined October 2013
United States50 Posts
February 03 2014 19:11 GMT
#99
it's over $40 an hour.

That's $24k a year for, say, 12 weeks of work. If you only get to cast one weekend a month


Your math is awesome
stratyk.net
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 19:14:46
February 03 2014 19:13 GMT
#100
Not going to blame you for being mature and getting out now. I think a lot of people are still a bit delusional regarding the actual "career prospects" in the esport industry, perhaps because this game is what a lot of people define their lives by. Even if you can scrape enough cash to keep going now, the opportunity cost of not going back to school grows with each passing year. Good luck out there in the real world.
"See you space cowboy"
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 41 42 43 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
08:00
Day 2 - Play Off & Finals Stage
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech82
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2051
PianO 1889
Hyuk 1581
Leta 554
Larva 510
Dewaltoss 91
ggaemo 71
yabsab 56
Free 33
Hm[arnc] 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe1191
League of Legends
JimRising 442
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K844
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King133
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor222
Other Games
singsing573
XaKoH 287
Happy257
Pyrionflax164
NeuroSwarm147
RotterdaM116
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 480
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 30
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2150
League of Legends
• Jankos1560
Other Games
• WagamamaTV256
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
1h
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV Invitational
2h
Online Event
7h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 1h
Barracks vs Mini
Wardi Open
1d 2h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 7h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Clem vs Reynor
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-18
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.