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Yoda and First to leave IM for WCS Europe - Page 5

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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 31 2013 17:15 GMT
#81
Europe getting more and more stacked by the day.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
stefantheterran
Profile Joined December 2013
Austria61 Posts
December 31 2013 17:39 GMT
#82
Hmmm.. MC or these two to Mouz? Or all three and Mouz domination on team leagues in Europe? this is interesting situation indeed..

Or then Mouz just ran out of money or interest in SC2 and won't hire anybody, is also possible. we'll see
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 31 2013 17:42 GMT
#83
Are they interested in moving to Europe or are they just interested in participating WCS EU?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 31 2013 18:08 GMT
#84
On January 01 2014 02:42 JustPassingBy wrote:
Are they interested in moving to Europe or are they just interested in participating WCS EU?


Probably the latter. Europe holds a special significance to them I would guess, as both of them won their only premier tournaments in EU
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
December 31 2013 18:12 GMT
#85
wtf is going on ??? these last few months are insane
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 31 2013 18:15 GMT
#86
On January 01 2014 02:12 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2013 22:15 Aeromi wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:02 nkr wrote:
so, they have to be top 4 players on the EU ladder to even get in challenger. GL when jjakji is playing. I wonder if they really understand the new wcs system ; ;

oh and im guessing innovation will qualify through ladder as well? unless hes going back to korea

jjakji is going to play normal qualifier not the wildcard system.



Innovation will play WCS KR.

I thought, this would´nt be possible anymore; I mean, Sase was´nt allowed to play the taiwanese qualifiers, because of the new partial region lock, is there a great difference between his situation and Jjakjis?


Jjakji lives in Switzerland with a visa and is part of a european team
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-31 18:21:17
December 31 2013 18:20 GMT
#87
i love this actually because of these koreans who want to play in wcs EU the play level of the foreigners in europe will raise a little bit (for example: Scarlett's ZvT is now really really really good since innovation joined his team)
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
December 31 2013 18:36 GMT
#88
On January 01 2014 03:20 monsta wrote:
i love this actually because of these koreans who want to play in wcs EU the play level of the foreigners in europe will raise a little bit (for example: Scarlett's ZvT is now really really really good since innovation joined his team)

This is a myth, if I ever saw one
...
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
December 31 2013 18:43 GMT
#89
I got bad news for Yoda and First. You havent made an effort to reach out to your foreign fans and are therefore considered faceless Koreans. I think they will be teamless for a pretty long time and will get the obligatory "This guy is so good why doesnt he have a team?!" comments.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-31 19:31:46
December 31 2013 19:30 GMT
#90
On December 31 2013 22:15 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2013 22:02 nkr wrote:
so, they have to be top 4 players on the EU ladder to even get in challenger. GL when jjakji is playing. I wonder if they really understand the new wcs system ; ;

oh and im guessing innovation will qualify through ladder as well? unless hes going back to korea

jjakji is going to play normal qualifier not the wildcard system.
https://twitter.com/mYiPengWin/status/416702088786104320


but thats against every rule -_-

On January 01 2014 03:15 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 02:12 Xoronius wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:15 Aeromi wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:02 nkr wrote:
so, they have to be top 4 players on the EU ladder to even get in challenger. GL when jjakji is playing. I wonder if they really understand the new wcs system ; ;

oh and im guessing innovation will qualify through ladder as well? unless hes going back to korea

jjakji is going to play normal qualifier not the wildcard system.
https://twitter.com/mYiPengWin/status/416702088786104320


Innovation will play WCS KR.

I thought, this would´nt be possible anymore; I mean, Sase was´nt allowed to play the taiwanese qualifiers, because of the new partial region lock, is there a great difference between his situation and Jjakjis?


Jjakji lives in Switzerland with a visa and is part of a european team


and ? visa doesnt makes you a citizen O_o still against the rules

if thats rly against rules i hope blizzard comes and say esl that they cant do what they want
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 31 2013 19:33 GMT
#91
On January 01 2014 04:30 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2013 22:15 Aeromi wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:02 nkr wrote:
so, they have to be top 4 players on the EU ladder to even get in challenger. GL when jjakji is playing. I wonder if they really understand the new wcs system ; ;

oh and im guessing innovation will qualify through ladder as well? unless hes going back to korea

jjakji is going to play normal qualifier not the wildcard system.
https://twitter.com/mYiPengWin/status/416702088786104320


but thats against every rule -_-

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 03:15 LongShot27 wrote:
On January 01 2014 02:12 Xoronius wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:15 Aeromi wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:02 nkr wrote:
so, they have to be top 4 players on the EU ladder to even get in challenger. GL when jjakji is playing. I wonder if they really understand the new wcs system ; ;

oh and im guessing innovation will qualify through ladder as well? unless hes going back to korea

jjakji is going to play normal qualifier not the wildcard system.
https://twitter.com/mYiPengWin/status/416702088786104320


Innovation will play WCS KR.

I thought, this would´nt be possible anymore; I mean, Sase was´nt allowed to play the taiwanese qualifiers, because of the new partial region lock, is there a great difference between his situation and Jjakjis?


Jjakji lives in Switzerland with a visa and is part of a european team


and ? visa doesnt makes you a citizen O_o still against the rules

if thats rly against rules i hope blizzard comes and say esl that they cant do what they want


except it isn't,,,
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
December 31 2013 19:34 GMT
#92
On January 01 2014 04:30 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2013 22:15 Aeromi wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:02 nkr wrote:
so, they have to be top 4 players on the EU ladder to even get in challenger. GL when jjakji is playing. I wonder if they really understand the new wcs system ; ;

oh and im guessing innovation will qualify through ladder as well? unless hes going back to korea

jjakji is going to play normal qualifier not the wildcard system.
https://twitter.com/mYiPengWin/status/416702088786104320


but thats against every rule -_-

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 03:15 LongShot27 wrote:
On January 01 2014 02:12 Xoronius wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:15 Aeromi wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:02 nkr wrote:
so, they have to be top 4 players on the EU ladder to even get in challenger. GL when jjakji is playing. I wonder if they really understand the new wcs system ; ;

oh and im guessing innovation will qualify through ladder as well? unless hes going back to korea

jjakji is going to play normal qualifier not the wildcard system.
https://twitter.com/mYiPengWin/status/416702088786104320


Innovation will play WCS KR.

I thought, this would´nt be possible anymore; I mean, Sase was´nt allowed to play the taiwanese qualifiers, because of the new partial region lock, is there a great difference between his situation and Jjakjis?


Jjakji lives in Switzerland with a visa and is part of a european team


and ? visa doesnt makes you a citizen O_o still against the rules

if thats rly against rules i hope blizzard comes and say esl that they cant do what they want

Jjakji apparently is considered a resident now.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
December 31 2013 19:35 GMT
#93
One of them to Liquid, PLEASE!
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 31 2013 19:35 GMT
#94
On January 01 2014 04:34 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 04:30 Drake wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:15 Aeromi wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:02 nkr wrote:
so, they have to be top 4 players on the EU ladder to even get in challenger. GL when jjakji is playing. I wonder if they really understand the new wcs system ; ;

oh and im guessing innovation will qualify through ladder as well? unless hes going back to korea

jjakji is going to play normal qualifier not the wildcard system.
https://twitter.com/mYiPengWin/status/416702088786104320


but thats against every rule -_-

On January 01 2014 03:15 LongShot27 wrote:
On January 01 2014 02:12 Xoronius wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:15 Aeromi wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:02 nkr wrote:
so, they have to be top 4 players on the EU ladder to even get in challenger. GL when jjakji is playing. I wonder if they really understand the new wcs system ; ;

oh and im guessing innovation will qualify through ladder as well? unless hes going back to korea

jjakji is going to play normal qualifier not the wildcard system.
https://twitter.com/mYiPengWin/status/416702088786104320


Innovation will play WCS KR.

I thought, this would´nt be possible anymore; I mean, Sase was´nt allowed to play the taiwanese qualifiers, because of the new partial region lock, is there a great difference between his situation and Jjakjis?


Jjakji lives in Switzerland with a visa and is part of a european team


and ? visa doesnt makes you a citizen O_o still against the rules

if thats rly against rules i hope blizzard comes and say esl that they cant do what they want

Jjakji apparently is considered a resident now.


exactly, he lives and works in Switzerland full time
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
invisigoat
Profile Joined March 2013
184 Posts
December 31 2013 20:39 GMT
#95
Unless I have misinterpreted the rules the ladder wildcard slots have a qualifier themselves for anyone in Masters or Grandmasters with 200 of more wins, not just the top 4 players in GM. So jjakji, First, and YoDa will most likely be playing in that qualifier.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 31 2013 20:53 GMT
#96
It's interesting that Liquid has not picked up a player in so long. And also that EG hasn't been quick to replace their losses, which have been many. Maybe these foreign teams are realizing that if they just support 1 or 2 stars (Jaedong, Taeja), they'll get just as much exposure for their sponsors as if they supported a bunch of players.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 31 2013 21:21 GMT
#97
On January 01 2014 01:13 Aridhol wrote:
IM pretty bad lineup now


not bad, just not as good. first for trap is a pretty even trade but yes losing yoda hurts.

still 2-0 in pl.
aezhyx
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Canada6 Posts
December 31 2013 21:33 GMT
#98
It just me or is IM dwindling down at an alarming rate D:
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 31 2013 21:37 GMT
#99
On January 01 2014 06:33 aezhyx wrote:
It just me or is IM dwindling down at an alarming rate D:


IM is fine. At least for the rest of the PL season. Now Startale on the other hand..yeah.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
December 31 2013 21:41 GMT
#100
On January 01 2014 04:30 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2013 22:15 Aeromi wrote:
On December 31 2013 22:02 nkr wrote:
so, they have to be top 4 players on the EU ladder to even get in challenger. GL when jjakji is playing. I wonder if they really understand the new wcs system ; ;

oh and im guessing innovation will qualify through ladder as well? unless hes going back to korea

jjakji is going to play normal qualifier not the wildcard system.
https://twitter.com/mYiPengWin/status/416702088786104320


but thats against every rule -_-

It isn't though. The requirement is residency, not citizenship.
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