• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:15
CEST 05:15
KST 12:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High13Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes192BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes Why Storm Should NOT Be Nerfed – A Core Part of Pr #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time SC4ALL: A North American StarCraft LAN Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Stellar Fest KSL Week 80 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Old rep packs of BW legends ASL ro8 Upper Bracket HYPE VIDEO BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 1 [ASL20] Ro16 Group D SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why can't Americans stop ea…
Peanutsc
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1261 users

Yoda and First to leave IM for WCS Europe - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
121 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
December 31 2013 13:26 GMT
#21
On December 31 2013 22:15 Aeromi wrote:Innovation will play WCS KR.


Alright. At least something looking bright in kr terran land. :D
maru G5L pls
Ana_
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland453 Posts
December 31 2013 13:31 GMT
#22
Good thing for EU scene.
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
December 31 2013 13:32 GMT
#23
Nooooo! They were two of my favorites in IM. And YoDa's been there for ages. So sad. TT Best of luck I suppose.
Long live the King of Wings
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
December 31 2013 13:35 GMT
#24
Damn, that's really sad, I hope both of them do good and go on to have long and fruitful carers, also hope IM can raise some new blood, just like they always have, they could use another zerg and terran.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
December 31 2013 13:40 GMT
#25
Do we know if they plan on moving to Europe or not? I'm okay with it as long as they move there and support the scene by mingling with the EU scene, playing with the players, and raising the level of competition.
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
December 31 2013 13:48 GMT
#26
Losing two of their best players. I know that feel.
Community News
TL+ Member
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 31 2013 13:48 GMT
#27
On December 31 2013 22:20 m0ck wrote:
Wp blizzard


How is this Blizzard's fault, exactly?
AdministratorBreak the chains
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28485 Posts
December 31 2013 13:51 GMT
#28
On December 31 2013 22:48 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2013 22:20 m0ck wrote:
Wp blizzard


How is this Blizzard's fault, exactly?

It's been Blizzard all along. First 9-11, than the NSA and now this. It's all part of their evil plan to take over the world. Don't be so naive.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
MysterySC
Profile Joined October 2012
Andorra109 Posts
December 31 2013 13:52 GMT
#29
good luck to them, i really miss yoda!
<3 Hyvaa
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 31 2013 14:09 GMT
#30
Can't they just hold all the WCS in Korea? It would be much cheaper for the teams to bring the few Europeans and Americans to Korea that reach the offline stages, than to fly half of the Koreans out for a few days.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 31 2013 14:13 GMT
#31
On December 31 2013 23:09 Big J wrote:
Can't they just hold all the WCS in Korea? It would be much cheaper for the teams to bring the few Europeans and Americans to Korea that reach the offline stages, than to fly half of the Koreans out for a few days.

Hope you're semi-trolling?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 31 2013 14:16 GMT
#32
On December 31 2013 23:09 Big J wrote:
Can't they just hold all the WCS in Korea? It would be much cheaper for the teams to bring the few Europeans and Americans to Korea that reach the offline stages, than to fly half of the Koreans out for a few days.

If blizzard wants to make sure I watch zero SC2, they should do that. Time zones alone are enough to make that plan really stupid.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 31 2013 14:25 GMT
#33
On December 31 2013 23:13 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2013 23:09 Big J wrote:
Can't they just hold all the WCS in Korea? It would be much cheaper for the teams to bring the few Europeans and Americans to Korea that reach the offline stages, than to fly half of the Koreans out for a few days.

Hope you're semi-trolling?


It's frustrating. WCS was supposed to give us regional champions. Instead we have a watered down WCS Korea, basically no American proscene left and Europe slowly diminishing too.
lamehater
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden100 Posts
December 31 2013 14:30 GMT
#34
On December 31 2013 23:25 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2013 23:13 TheDwf wrote:
On December 31 2013 23:09 Big J wrote:
Can't they just hold all the WCS in Korea? It would be much cheaper for the teams to bring the few Europeans and Americans to Korea that reach the offline stages, than to fly half of the Koreans out for a few days.

Hope you're semi-trolling?


It's frustrating. WCS was supposed to give us regional champions. Instead we have a watered down WCS Korea, basically no American proscene left and Europe slowly diminishing too.


As far as I'm considered, WCS should be a place for the best of the best. I cannot see why there's even an argument to support players just because they're from a specific region. It's their job to become the best they can be, not Blizzard's job to give worse players free money.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
December 31 2013 14:40 GMT
#35
On December 31 2013 22:40 juicyjames wrote:
Do we know if they plan on moving to Europe or not? I'm okay with it as long as they move there and support the scene by mingling with the EU scene, playing with the players, and raising the level of competition.


The problem is unless they get a team and have a team house it would be almost impossible for them to do that.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 31 2013 14:44 GMT
#36
On December 31 2013 23:40 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2013 22:40 juicyjames wrote:
Do we know if they plan on moving to Europe or not? I'm okay with it as long as they move there and support the scene by mingling with the EU scene, playing with the players, and raising the level of competition.


The problem is unless they get a team and have a team house it would be almost impossible for them to do that.


There are a bunch of teams in Europe with team houses. I don't know if they have to money for Yoda and/or First specifically, but there's no shortage of teams that could house players in a perfect world.
AdministratorBreak the chains
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44631 Posts
December 31 2013 14:46 GMT
#37
With Mana leaving mouz and First moving to Europe...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
December 31 2013 14:46 GMT
#38
Hm, atm there are so many free agents but only very few teams investing. I hope that Yoda and First won`t get shitty deals.
Twine
Profile Joined June 2012
France246 Posts
December 31 2013 14:48 GMT
#39
Mouz.First
Mouz.Yoda
#1 Bomber fan | Jin Air best KT
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-31 14:50:57
December 31 2013 14:49 GMT
#40
So as far as i understand they will have to go trough the wildcards qualifiers since they are not legal resident of the EU.
I hope europe holds and send them back home quickly, lets cheese them all in qualifiers !

Not to be an ass but those 2 players unlike some other koreans (NaRa,MMA,wacK,ForGG,daisy,Stardust,Jjakji,dragon...) have literally nothing to do in europe, they have been showing absolutely no interest in the EU scene for ages (no online tournament and only coming to the event they were invited ie : no qualifier participation ), they don't speak English, they don't stream...NOTHING.
If some korean wants to come in EU fine but at least give us some that have showed interest in our scene before (Solar,Trend,emotion....).
Really screw those 2.
RIP MKP
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 45m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 183
RuFF_SC2 133
StarCraft: Brood War
Sharp 95
Noble 58
Dewaltoss 15
Bale 8
Icarus 7
League of Legends
JimRising 646
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 619
Stewie2K474
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor126
Other Games
summit1g9663
C9.Mang0264
Maynarde143
Mew2King26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick683
BasetradeTV52
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH309
• davetesta65
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush673
• Stunt324
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
6h 45m
Barracks vs Mini
Wardi Open
7h 45m
Monday Night Weeklies
12h 45m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 6h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 6h
Snow vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Monday
1d 20h
LiuLi Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Clem vs Reynor
[ Show More ]
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
RSL Revival: Season 2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.