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Yoda and First to leave IM for WCS Europe - Page 2

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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
December 31 2013 13:26 GMT
#21
On December 31 2013 22:15 Aeromi wrote:Innovation will play WCS KR.


Alright. At least something looking bright in kr terran land. :D
maru G5L pls
Ana_
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland453 Posts
December 31 2013 13:31 GMT
#22
Good thing for EU scene.
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
December 31 2013 13:32 GMT
#23
Nooooo! They were two of my favorites in IM. And YoDa's been there for ages. So sad. TT Best of luck I suppose.
Long live the King of Wings
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
December 31 2013 13:35 GMT
#24
Damn, that's really sad, I hope both of them do good and go on to have long and fruitful carers, also hope IM can raise some new blood, just like they always have, they could use another zerg and terran.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
December 31 2013 13:40 GMT
#25
Do we know if they plan on moving to Europe or not? I'm okay with it as long as they move there and support the scene by mingling with the EU scene, playing with the players, and raising the level of competition.
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
December 31 2013 13:48 GMT
#26
Losing two of their best players. I know that feel.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 31 2013 13:48 GMT
#27
On December 31 2013 22:20 m0ck wrote:
Wp blizzard


How is this Blizzard's fault, exactly?
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
December 31 2013 13:51 GMT
#28
On December 31 2013 22:48 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2013 22:20 m0ck wrote:
Wp blizzard


How is this Blizzard's fault, exactly?

It's been Blizzard all along. First 9-11, than the NSA and now this. It's all part of their evil plan to take over the world. Don't be so naive.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
MysterySC
Profile Joined October 2012
Andorra109 Posts
December 31 2013 13:52 GMT
#29
good luck to them, i really miss yoda!
<3 Hyvaa
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 31 2013 14:09 GMT
#30
Can't they just hold all the WCS in Korea? It would be much cheaper for the teams to bring the few Europeans and Americans to Korea that reach the offline stages, than to fly half of the Koreans out for a few days.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 31 2013 14:13 GMT
#31
On December 31 2013 23:09 Big J wrote:
Can't they just hold all the WCS in Korea? It would be much cheaper for the teams to bring the few Europeans and Americans to Korea that reach the offline stages, than to fly half of the Koreans out for a few days.

Hope you're semi-trolling?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 31 2013 14:16 GMT
#32
On December 31 2013 23:09 Big J wrote:
Can't they just hold all the WCS in Korea? It would be much cheaper for the teams to bring the few Europeans and Americans to Korea that reach the offline stages, than to fly half of the Koreans out for a few days.

If blizzard wants to make sure I watch zero SC2, they should do that. Time zones alone are enough to make that plan really stupid.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 31 2013 14:25 GMT
#33
On December 31 2013 23:13 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2013 23:09 Big J wrote:
Can't they just hold all the WCS in Korea? It would be much cheaper for the teams to bring the few Europeans and Americans to Korea that reach the offline stages, than to fly half of the Koreans out for a few days.

Hope you're semi-trolling?


It's frustrating. WCS was supposed to give us regional champions. Instead we have a watered down WCS Korea, basically no American proscene left and Europe slowly diminishing too.
lamehater
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden100 Posts
December 31 2013 14:30 GMT
#34
On December 31 2013 23:25 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2013 23:13 TheDwf wrote:
On December 31 2013 23:09 Big J wrote:
Can't they just hold all the WCS in Korea? It would be much cheaper for the teams to bring the few Europeans and Americans to Korea that reach the offline stages, than to fly half of the Koreans out for a few days.

Hope you're semi-trolling?


It's frustrating. WCS was supposed to give us regional champions. Instead we have a watered down WCS Korea, basically no American proscene left and Europe slowly diminishing too.


As far as I'm considered, WCS should be a place for the best of the best. I cannot see why there's even an argument to support players just because they're from a specific region. It's their job to become the best they can be, not Blizzard's job to give worse players free money.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
December 31 2013 14:40 GMT
#35
On December 31 2013 22:40 juicyjames wrote:
Do we know if they plan on moving to Europe or not? I'm okay with it as long as they move there and support the scene by mingling with the EU scene, playing with the players, and raising the level of competition.


The problem is unless they get a team and have a team house it would be almost impossible for them to do that.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 31 2013 14:44 GMT
#36
On December 31 2013 23:40 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2013 22:40 juicyjames wrote:
Do we know if they plan on moving to Europe or not? I'm okay with it as long as they move there and support the scene by mingling with the EU scene, playing with the players, and raising the level of competition.


The problem is unless they get a team and have a team house it would be almost impossible for them to do that.


There are a bunch of teams in Europe with team houses. I don't know if they have to money for Yoda and/or First specifically, but there's no shortage of teams that could house players in a perfect world.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45221 Posts
December 31 2013 14:46 GMT
#37
With Mana leaving mouz and First moving to Europe...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
December 31 2013 14:46 GMT
#38
Hm, atm there are so many free agents but only very few teams investing. I hope that Yoda and First won`t get shitty deals.
Twine
Profile Joined June 2012
France246 Posts
December 31 2013 14:48 GMT
#39
Mouz.First
Mouz.Yoda
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shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-31 14:50:57
December 31 2013 14:49 GMT
#40
So as far as i understand they will have to go trough the wildcards qualifiers since they are not legal resident of the EU.
I hope europe holds and send them back home quickly, lets cheese them all in qualifiers !

Not to be an ass but those 2 players unlike some other koreans (NaRa,MMA,wacK,ForGG,daisy,Stardust,Jjakji,dragon...) have literally nothing to do in europe, they have been showing absolutely no interest in the EU scene for ages (no online tournament and only coming to the event they were invited ie : no qualifier participation ), they don't speak English, they don't stream...NOTHING.
If some korean wants to come in EU fine but at least give us some that have showed interest in our scene before (Solar,Trend,emotion....).
Really screw those 2.
RIP MKP
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