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I sadly have to agree with your rating of Prime. I don´t think there is any hope for them not finishing last place. 
They have absolutely nothing up their sleeve to compensate for the departure of Maru. Creator will be able to take some games here and there. But you can´t win pro league with only one player.
I don´t really see the reasoning behind skipping the last GSTL, when they even had Maru still on their roster to pull something off and participating now in pro league, which runs a much worse format for a small squad like theirs, without him and probably any hope of success. D:
I hope they win at least one match per round. But even that will be very hard for them.
They were the best team in the world in the first third of 2012. And now there is nothing left but nice memories D:
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On December 17 2013 00:51 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 00:44 lichter wrote:On December 17 2013 00:30 Pandemona wrote:Lichter bm samsung smartphones. Confirmed dirty apple user :D Nice write up, agree with 99% of it  well done. I actually use a Galaxy phone :o Whatttttttttttttt. So why did you write Show nested quote +Samsung Electronics was willing to pay the big bucks to acquire team MVP's championship winning LoL squads and put them under the GALAXY banner, but their SC2 squad was not lucky enough to receive some of that dirty smartphone money. :o It's not dirty because there fones are awesomeeeeez and TVs and sponsor the best football team in da worldz
I didn't know they sponsored Arsenal 
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Pro[toss]league 2014 inc !
Those that still tink it's not going to become a PvPfest will be sourly mistaken.
Oh well let's hope atleast on some fun games.
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Is there a possibility to see the final rosters in one place, not just the changes? Would make rating the teams so much easier. Anyway, I think that the the "new" teams are being understimated too much. Yes, the players on the original KeSPA teams may have shown good results and had good record, but essentially against each other - it doesn't really say how they will do against the new teams, as there hasn't been that much room for direct comparision in individual leagues. IM, in particular, has a much better roster than "meh", just counting the players I can remebmer of the top of my head.
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I actually expect CJ to do better than expected. Coach Park can do wonders. He turned around EGTL and that was with only half a season.
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United States97276 Posts
Just hoping Prime ends up taking some win that screws someone out of the playoffs or something. muahahahaha
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iloveoov definitely gonna bring about some dramatic changes to sKT
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I have never been a Prime fan but i hope they don't become the next EG-TL (though its looking very likely)
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On December 17 2013 03:24 opisska wrote:
Is there a possibility to see the final rosters in one place, not just the changes? Would make rating the teams so much easier. Anyway, I think that the the "new" teams are being understimated too much. Yes, the players on the original KeSPA teams may have shown good results and had good record, but essentially against each other - it doesn't really say how they will do against the new teams, as there hasn't been that much room for direct comparision in individual leagues. IM, in particular, has a much better roster than "meh", just counting the players I can remebmer of the top of my head.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano
The official rosters are not released but for now these are the most actual rosters.
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On December 17 2013 02:34 DiMano wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 02:31 Whatson wrote:On December 17 2013 02:02 DiMano wrote:On December 17 2013 01:58 mrRoflpwn wrote:
poor prime. Not a single champion class player on their team. So if ByuN and Creator did poor this year means that they suddenly are bad players? Creator said that it takes him a lot of time to become good. ByuN had the same situation in WoL as he has it now, he was doing bad then he came back and crushed everyone. I do not see any reason to forget about them especially when they are in GSL. Considering almost every other team has at least 1 championship level player (with the exception of MVP perhaps) Prime is in trouble. Also, when has ByuN ever "crushed everyone"? he had that one lucky season, and then he dropped out of the group stages next season. So you did not watch GSTL then.
What has ByuN done in GSTL?
Besides bringing out his puppy I mean, that was cute.
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I was expecting F- for Prime. Better than expected
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On December 17 2013 03:36 DiMano wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 03:24 opisska wrote:
Is there a possibility to see the final rosters in one place, not just the changes? Would make rating the teams so much easier. Anyway, I think that the the "new" teams are being understimated too much. Yes, the players on the original KeSPA teams may have shown good results and had good record, but essentially against each other - it doesn't really say how they will do against the new teams, as there hasn't been that much room for direct comparision in individual leagues. IM, in particular, has a much better roster than "meh", just counting the players I can remebmer of the top of my head. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiManoThe official rosters are not released but for now these are the most actual rosters.
Nice! But they are not the most actual, as Losira is still listed as teamless Anyway, SKT T1 roster si really insane, but the new teams don't look that bad, if you are reminded of all of their players that never really shone in GSL, but did pretty well in GSTL ...
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Losira found a new team already?
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On December 17 2013 03:39 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 03:36 DiMano wrote:On December 17 2013 03:24 opisska wrote:
Is there a possibility to see the final rosters in one place, not just the changes? Would make rating the teams so much easier. Anyway, I think that the the "new" teams are being understimated too much. Yes, the players on the original KeSPA teams may have shown good results and had good record, but essentially against each other - it doesn't really say how they will do against the new teams, as there hasn't been that much room for direct comparision in individual leagues. IM, in particular, has a much better roster than "meh", just counting the players I can remebmer of the top of my head. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiManoThe official rosters are not released but for now these are the most actual rosters. Nice! But they are not the most actual, as Losira is still listed as teamless Anyway, SKT T1 roster si really insane, but the new teams don't look that bad, if you are reminded of all of their players that never really shone in GSL, but did pretty well in GSTL ...
KangHo is teamless now so it is all right
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On December 17 2013 03:36 DiMano wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 03:24 opisska wrote:
Is there a possibility to see the final rosters in one place, not just the changes? Would make rating the teams so much easier. Anyway, I think that the the "new" teams are being understimated too much. Yes, the players on the original KeSPA teams may have shown good results and had good record, but essentially against each other - it doesn't really say how they will do against the new teams, as there hasn't been that much room for direct comparision in individual leagues. IM, in particular, has a much better roster than "meh", just counting the players I can remebmer of the top of my head. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiManoThe official rosters are not released but for now these are the most actual rosters.
KT's zerg lineup of hitmaN and Action is so sad. They really need to get Kangho or steal hyvaa or someone.
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Looking forward to see how Jin Air and SKT1 perform this year. However I feel pretty sad for Prime, at least with Maru, they could have been carry by him, but now... Creator or Kal as their ace player? Ouch, this won't be pretty.
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On December 17 2013 03:47 Keeemy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 03:36 DiMano wrote:On December 17 2013 03:24 opisska wrote:
Is there a possibility to see the final rosters in one place, not just the changes? Would make rating the teams so much easier. Anyway, I think that the the "new" teams are being understimated too much. Yes, the players on the original KeSPA teams may have shown good results and had good record, but essentially against each other - it doesn't really say how they will do against the new teams, as there hasn't been that much room for direct comparision in individual leagues. IM, in particular, has a much better roster than "meh", just counting the players I can remebmer of the top of my head. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiManoThe official rosters are not released but for now these are the most actual rosters. KT's zerg lineup of hitmaN and Action is so sad. They really need to get Kangho or steal hyvaa or someone.
hitmaN's potential is very high he is about to become a top zerg just needs some luck.
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On December 17 2013 03:48 KeZman wrote:
Looking forward to see how Jin Air and SKT1 perform this year. However I feel pretty sad for Prime, at least with Maru, they could have been carry by him, but now... Creator or Kal as their ace player? Ouch, this won't be pretty.
The team needs 3 wins to win a game Prime has Creator, GooJila and ByuN so they are not as bad as you think.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 17 2013 03:51 DiMano wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 03:48 KeZman wrote:
Looking forward to see how Jin Air and SKT1 perform this year. However I feel pretty sad for Prime, at least with Maru, they could have been carry by him, but now... Creator or Kal as their ace player? Ouch, this won't be pretty. Team need 3 wins to win a game Prime has Creator, GooJila and ByuN so they are not as bad as you think.
If Creator, Kal and Byun were to play Sora, Hydra and Effort in that order, would you bet your life on Prime ever making it? The Bo5 format lets all the teams with S-class players field their aces in the first three matches and win straight up against weaker team a lot of the time. Would you bet on Prime against a line-up of sOs, Maru and Cure/Climax/Pigbaby? Or Parting/Rain/Soulkey? The problem for Prime is that if the match-ups in any match they play in are bad for them, they might straight up lose before even having time to play Creator/Kal/Byun, which isn't a comfortable spot to be in.
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On December 17 2013 03:56 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 03:51 DiMano wrote:On December 17 2013 03:48 KeZman wrote:
Looking forward to see how Jin Air and SKT1 perform this year. However I feel pretty sad for Prime, at least with Maru, they could have been carry by him, but now... Creator or Kal as their ace player? Ouch, this won't be pretty. Team need 3 wins to win a game Prime has Creator, GooJila and ByuN so they are not as bad as you think. If Creator, Kal and Byun were to play Sora, Hydra and Effort in that order, would you bet your life on Prime ever making it? The Bo5 format lets all the teams with S-class players field their aces in the first three matches and win straight up against weaker team a lot of the time. Would you bet on Prime against a line-up of sOs, Maru and Cure/Climax/Pigbaby? Or Parting/Rain/Soulkey? The problem for Prime is that if the match-ups in any match they play in are bad for them, they might straight up lose before even having time to play Creator/Kal/Byun, which isn't a comfortable spot to be in.
I just wanted to say that Prime has chances but I wrote somewhere that Prime will be something like 2 wins 1 loss for their trio, there will be no such order that 3 ace players will meet 3 ace players it will be like 2 or 1 of them meets ace and others meet regulars like Bunny or Bong where they have chances which will lead to a sitatuon like I said 2 wins 1 loss for their trio or vice versa and their overall win will depend on their trio to win all matches or on (if 2 wins 1 loss) their regular (Eins, Splendid) required 1 win.
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