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[SPL] Grading the Off-Season - Page 7

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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
December 16 2013 21:28 GMT
#121
On December 17 2013 01:40 DiMano wrote:
This thread should be done after the official roster announcemet.
KeSPA:
Shark (Samsung KHAN)
FaKe (Samsung KHAN)
Guilty (Samsung KHAN)
SpeeD (Samsung KHAN)
hOpe (Samsung KHAN)
oDin (Samsung KHAN)
Swift (Woongjin Stars)
Motive (KT Rolster)
Puzzle (KT Rolster)
Mind (KT Rolster)
BarrackS (KT Rolster)
HoeJJa (KT Rolster)
Cacia (KT Rolster)
Crazy (KT Rolster)
Brown (SK Telecom T1)
Mercury (SK Telecom T1)
JyJ (SK Telecom T1)
All these players left their teams so the thread is misleading a lot of people here as they still think that players like Crazy and Puzzle will play.
Also it seems that PenguiN joined Prime as he was PenguiN.Prime on DH prelims.
All actual rosters are here and it will be updated when the official rosters will be released, all other sites showing actual rosters are wrong:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano
Also plz change Kal -> GooJila and Absolute -> UngNim

HoeJJa and crazy and puzzle too? Oh god, that sucks.
The heart's eternal vow
mostwanted
Profile Joined March 2011
83 Posts
December 16 2013 21:49 GMT
#122
I hope ByuN will kick ass
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
December 16 2013 22:48 GMT
#123
On December 17 2013 05:44 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 04:57 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2013 04:52 Kasaraki wrote:
Samsung's grade looks really happy.


Their fans won't

Samsung has fans?

:p


yes they do
Die-hard KeSPA fan
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 22:59:24
December 16 2013 22:52 GMT
#124
Wow, a proleague without Boxer, Bisu and Kim Ga Eul...

Edit: forgot to say this herO, EffOrt, Bbyong comp seems working well

P.S: Rooting for Sora to becoma a PL bonjwa, since Dear and Life are not there.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
December 16 2013 23:57 GMT
#125
Hello Jin-Air Green Wings! New fan right here!
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
December 17 2013 00:39 GMT
#126
On December 17 2013 05:48 DiMano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 05:44 Kasaraki wrote:
On December 17 2013 04:57 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2013 04:52 Kasaraki wrote:
Samsung's grade looks really happy.


Their fans won't

Samsung has fans?

:p

How should I kill you? SAMSUNG is the best team!!!!!!! Stork, JangBi, RorO, Shine, Reality GOGOGO!!!!! KHAN FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If they really were the best team then Jangbi wouldn't have retired. Hint, it wasn't because he disliked sc2 or whatever reason.

He left cause of salary and January. The team took all the money that he won from second places and they barely gave him a raise everytime that he asked. In addition, January cockblocked Jangbi from every finding out that there were a lot of other teams interested in him. He said that he made 60k in 2009 and only 35k in 2010.

Plus, don't forget that Stork himself is a huge hypocrite too (for example, ages ago he looked down on flash for not playing in PL when he had individual league later that night when Stork himself hadn't done so in past either)
<horangnabi> basically samsung gives shitty salary to everyone except stork
<horangnabi> and then stork hasa the balls to say stuff like progamer should protect their dignity and not do stuff for money and looking down on afreeca streams lol......

The man has worn a dinosuit and taken shirtless pics of self for photo suits and yet is still like that? Seriously?
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
December 17 2013 01:29 GMT
#127
On December 17 2013 04:44 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 04:43 Schelim wrote:
good writeup but do you really think Fantasy is an "ace level player"?


Fantasy, in my book, is the definition of a potential ace level player - the kind of player that Bomber also used to be - insanely strong in one or several aspects, hilariously weak in others.


I hate reading about SC2 fantasy purely for this reason. I miss when he was the boss. Well, he'll always be the boss in my eyes and even though I don't play SC2 anymore and don't enjoy watching it I'll never miss his games.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
December 17 2013 01:46 GMT
#128
If Kal IS a prodigy I'll laugh my socks off. I almost want him to
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
December 17 2013 01:46 GMT
#129
On December 17 2013 09:39 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 05:48 DiMano wrote:
On December 17 2013 05:44 Kasaraki wrote:
On December 17 2013 04:57 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2013 04:52 Kasaraki wrote:
Samsung's grade looks really happy.


Their fans won't

Samsung has fans?

:p

How should I kill you? SAMSUNG is the best team!!!!!!! Stork, JangBi, RorO, Shine, Reality GOGOGO!!!!! KHAN FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If they really were the best team then Jangbi wouldn't have retired. Hint, it wasn't because he disliked sc2 or whatever reason.

He left cause of salary and January. The team took all the money that he won from second places and they barely gave him a raise everytime that he asked. In addition, January cockblocked Jangbi from every finding out that there were a lot of other teams interested in him. He said that he made 60k in 2009 and only 35k in 2010.

Plus, don't forget that Stork himself is a huge hypocrite too (for example, ages ago he looked down on flash for not playing in PL when he had individual league later that night when Stork himself hadn't done so in past either)
basically samsung gives shitty salary to everyone except stork
and then stork hasa the balls to say stuff like progamer should protect their dignity and not do stuff for money and looking down on afreeca streams lol......

The man has worn a dinosuit and taken shirtless pics of self for photo suits and yet is still like that? Seriously?

Only Bisu can do no wrong and be a top Toss.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
December 17 2013 02:21 GMT
#130
Oooh Kal shoulda joined Jin Air :/ I still don't understand why StarTale doesnt participate Seeing Bomber in a proleague booth would be awesome <3
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
December 17 2013 03:53 GMT
#131
IM to win it all.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
December 17 2013 03:57 GMT
#132
Wow crazy to think no Jaedong in proleague this season :/
JD, need I say more? :D
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
December 17 2013 05:22 GMT
#133
ESPORTS NEVER TAKES A SEMESTER OFF! Fuck yeah!

Poor Prime >.<. I hope MKP comes back, he was my favorite player (because of his micro)
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
December 17 2013 05:47 GMT
#134
On December 17 2013 12:57 LimeNade wrote:
Wow crazy to think no Jaedong in proleague this season :/


Indeed it is quite disturbing.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
December 17 2013 05:51 GMT
#135
On December 17 2013 14:47 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 12:57 LimeNade wrote:
Wow crazy to think no Jaedong in proleague this season :/


Indeed it is quite disturbing.

Well there might be special matches with foreign teams or something so we'll have that
ratty
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand275 Posts
December 17 2013 09:04 GMT
#136
the : D grade for samsung confuses me on the one hand im sad that there that far down and are probably going to suck, on the other it look like a smiley face!
no. monkeys land on their feet, they're like masturbating cats ~ #~hyvaa~#~
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 17 2013 10:29 GMT
#137
Update re; Hoejja: no longer plays for KT, has moved on to coaching (KT)
AdministratorBreak the chains
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
December 17 2013 12:41 GMT
#138
Hyped for SKT, seems like the list didn't include a lot of players who left/retired without much attention though =/
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 13:39:42
December 17 2013 13:38 GMT
#139
Something about Samsung turning into NS Hoseo just makes me very depressed.

Also Prime turning into ace is actually fitting even though it's really sad. Their number of fans is ridiculously disproportionate to how good they are.
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 13:45:50
December 17 2013 13:44 GMT
#140
On December 17 2013 22:38 VisonKai wrote:
Something about Samsung turning into NS Hoseo just makes me very depressed.

Also Prime turning into ace is actually fitting even though it's really sad. Their number of fans is ridiculously disproportionate to how good they are.

Oh yeah we saw 0 Prime games and ofc we can say such things out of the blue.
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