• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:09
CET 01:09
KST 09:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket12Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA12
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Path of Exile [Game] Osu! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1804 users

Nathanias, Khaldor, Harstem, Grubby to cast Acer TeamStory…

Forum Index > SC2 General
77 CommentsPost a Reply
Normal
TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
December 10 2013 13:21 GMT
#1

I am so happy to announce that @nathaniastv @Khaldor @FnaticHarstem and @followgrubby will be our official Casters for the ATC Finals 1/2

— Dennis Gehlen (@TaKeSeN) December 10, 2013



Nathanias, Khaldor, Harstem, and Grubby have been announced as the casters for the upcoming Acer TeamStory Cup Season 2 live finals.

The event will take place at Take's flat in Germany on December 14-15, with Team Acer, Western Wolves, Axiom Esports, and Teamliquid vying for the title.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 13:26:36
December 10 2013 13:25 GMT
#2
wOOp wOOp wOOp Hype train is rolling!!

monchi | IdrA | Flash
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
December 10 2013 13:27 GMT
#3
Dutch caster delight! Nice!
daskleinehotte
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany76 Posts
December 10 2013 13:34 GMT
#4
Nice line-up, I hope there will be some players casting as well.
www.bunker-rush.de (German SC2 and eSports blog)
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 13:37:36
December 10 2013 13:34 GMT
#5
Title should be "Nathanias" and not "Nathanis".

I hope Khaldor's zerg knowledge is up to snuff, because otherwise we will only have knowledgeable protoss casting. Or, if we're lucky, some of the players might decide to join the fun.
pindleskin
Profile Joined January 2008
New Zealand199 Posts
December 10 2013 13:41 GMT
#6
harstem is my favorite caster!! yes!
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
December 10 2013 13:41 GMT
#7
Im excited!

Will Total Biscuit be there too? Last time some (?) of the team owners were there too. The millenium and the teamliquid guy i think at least.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 10 2013 13:42 GMT
#8
Harstem is a cool caster. I liked listening to him at HSC.
MoooN1
Profile Joined December 2007
Germany128 Posts
December 10 2013 13:45 GMT
#9
On December 10 2013 22:34 JustPassingBy wrote:
Title should be "Nathanias" and not "Nathanis".

I hope Khaldor's zerg knowledge is up to snuff, because otherwise we will only have knowledgeable protoss casting. Or, if we're lucky, some of the players might decide to join the fun.


nathanias is a pretty good terran player as far as i know
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
December 10 2013 13:45 GMT
#10
yeah Nate and Harstem!
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
December 10 2013 13:46 GMT
#11
Take is the best
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 10 2013 13:55 GMT
#12
Wooohoooo love you take!!!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
fried_rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
198 Posts
December 10 2013 13:58 GMT
#13
Hell yeah, gogo Nathanias!
kisoso
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria105 Posts
December 10 2013 14:00 GMT
#14
Despite the downtime at ASUS ROG, I had a great time with Grubby's casting. I'm really looking forward for this one.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 10 2013 14:01 GMT
#15
On December 10 2013 22:45 MoooN1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 22:34 JustPassingBy wrote:
Title should be "Nathanias" and not "Nathanis".

I hope Khaldor's zerg knowledge is up to snuff, because otherwise we will only have knowledgeable protoss casting. Or, if we're lucky, some of the players might decide to join the fun.


nathanias is a pretty good terran player as far as i know


Ah, my bad. I knew he was a good player, but I thought he was protoss. Living in the wrong time zone, so I rarely watch his stream.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
December 10 2013 14:08 GMT
#16
Great lineup!

And together with all the pro players around, the casting should be amazing this weekend
TXRaunchy
Profile Joined June 2013
United States131 Posts
December 10 2013 14:08 GMT
#17
grubby just to cast now like incontrol?
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
December 10 2013 14:10 GMT
#18
Nice line up. This will be a sick tournament no doubt.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
darr3n
Profile Joined June 2010
101 Posts
December 10 2013 14:10 GMT
#19
Great news. Maybe I can meet some players if I go to the bar.
I'm melting
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
December 10 2013 14:18 GMT
#20
On December 10 2013 23:01 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 22:45 MoooN1 wrote:
On December 10 2013 22:34 JustPassingBy wrote:
Title should be "Nathanias" and not "Nathanis".

I hope Khaldor's zerg knowledge is up to snuff, because otherwise we will only have knowledgeable protoss casting. Or, if we're lucky, some of the players might decide to join the fun.


nathanias is a pretty good terran player as far as i know


Ah, my bad. I knew he was a good player, but I thought he was protoss. Living in the wrong time zone, so I rarely watch his stream.


Last year he was streaming regularly and opting to become pro level. He was a High Masters terran on NA.
the game is the game
Nathanias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
December 10 2013 14:23 GMT
#21
On December 10 2013 23:18 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 23:01 JustPassingBy wrote:
On December 10 2013 22:45 MoooN1 wrote:
On December 10 2013 22:34 JustPassingBy wrote:
Title should be "Nathanias" and not "Nathanis".

I hope Khaldor's zerg knowledge is up to snuff, because otherwise we will only have knowledgeable protoss casting. Or, if we're lucky, some of the players might decide to join the fun.


nathanias is a pretty good terran player as far as i know


Ah, my bad. I knew he was a good player, but I thought he was protoss. Living in the wrong time zone, so I rarely watch his stream.


Last year he was streaming regularly and opting to become pro level. He was a High Masters terran on NA.


I was top 50 of all master league players in NA before I left for Dreamhack and couldn't play as much :D As for the Protoss I actually play a lot of that as well and am also master with them ^^
CommentatorNever give up, Never surrender
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
December 10 2013 14:30 GMT
#22
It's really cool that Mr.Bitter gets to cast something in Europe it's been awhile !
twitter@RickyMarou
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
December 10 2013 14:30 GMT
#23
Oh shit Dutchies OP
Neosteel Enthusiast
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45078 Posts
December 10 2013 14:32 GMT
#24
Definitely a fan of Nathanias's casting
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 10 2013 14:39 GMT
#25
It'll be nice to see Khaldor cast an event where he spends more time talking about the games than apologizing to the stream audience for the delay.

In any case great lineup! Too awesome protoss players, Khaldor, and Nathanias who has really grown on me recently. Should be an awesome finals.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
December 10 2013 14:44 GMT
#26
On December 10 2013 23:30 Marou wrote:
It's really cool that Mr.Bitter gets to cast something in Europe it's been awhile !


mr. bitter wont be there. He doesnt go to TakeTV tournaments anymore since he's too involved with World of Tanks.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
December 10 2013 14:49 GMT
#27
On December 10 2013 23:44 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 23:30 Marou wrote:
It's really cool that Mr.Bitter gets to cast something in Europe it's been awhile !


mr. bitter wont be there. He doesnt go to TakeTV tournaments anymore since he's too involved with World of Tanks.


It was a joke
+ Show Spoiler +
Nathanias supposedly sounds like Mr.Bitter
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands678 Posts
December 10 2013 14:56 GMT
#28
Harstem and Grubby! Awesome!

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 10 2013 23:49 NovaMB wrote:

It was a joke. Nathanias supposedly sounds like Mr.Bitter


Funny you mention that! I never thought about it before, but the other night I was sure I was listening to Mr.Bitter and it turned out to be Nathanias! You can tell 'em apart easily once you focus on it, by the way they construct their sentences. I like 'em both, but Mr.Bitter has been one of my favorite casters for a long time.
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
December 10 2013 14:57 GMT
#29
Love Khaldor, he is great caster!
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
December 10 2013 15:08 GMT
#30
On December 10 2013 23:49 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 23:44 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On December 10 2013 23:30 Marou wrote:
It's really cool that Mr.Bitter gets to cast something in Europe it's been awhile !


mr. bitter wont be there. He doesnt go to TakeTV tournaments anymore since he's too involved with World of Tanks.


It was a joke
+ Show Spoiler +
Nathanias supposedly sounds like Mr.Bitter


!!!

I knew Nathanias' voice sounded familiar too me, it's bothered me for so long now, thank you so much for typing that out :D
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
December 10 2013 15:15 GMT
#31
On December 10 2013 23:49 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 23:44 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On December 10 2013 23:30 Marou wrote:
It's really cool that Mr.Bitter gets to cast something in Europe it's been awhile !


mr. bitter wont be there. He doesnt go to TakeTV tournaments anymore since he's too involved with World of Tanks.


It was a joke
+ Show Spoiler +
Nathanias supposedly sounds like Mr.Bitter


hmm didnt notice that yet. maybe if nathanias ends every sentence with the obligatory "i dont know kev"
kotlok
Profile Joined September 2011
11 Posts
December 10 2013 15:23 GMT
#32
Did Take and Total Biscuits talks things out? Because Axiom takes part at ATC after all.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 10 2013 15:25 GMT
#33
I guess it's true what they say, if it ain't dutch, it ain't much.

And I had no idea Bitter had been conscripted into WoT. Could suit him though, "I don't know Rommel!"
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
December 10 2013 15:33 GMT
#34
On December 10 2013 23:49 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 23:44 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On December 10 2013 23:30 Marou wrote:
It's really cool that Mr.Bitter gets to cast something in Europe it's been awhile !


mr. bitter wont be there. He doesnt go to TakeTV tournaments anymore since he's too involved with World of Tanks.


It was a joke
+ Show Spoiler +
Nathanias supposedly sounds like Mr.Bitter


+ Show Spoiler +
Harstem does a scary accurate impersonation of Mr.Bitter. :
twitter@RickyMarou
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
December 10 2013 15:36 GMT
#35
I am an Axiom man myself, but I have to cheer for WW, even if it is just 100% Korean ringers, any team with San will always have my loyalty ^_^
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
December 10 2013 15:36 GMT
#36
Sounds delightful!
Shyndashu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States136 Posts
December 10 2013 15:42 GMT
#37
I don't understand why people keep using grubby for casting. He's not entertaining and his voice is annoying. Would've much rather had incontrol.
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
December 10 2013 15:47 GMT
#38
On December 11 2013 00:42 Shyndashu wrote:
I don't understand why people keep using grubby for casting. He's not entertaining and his voice is annoying. Would've much rather had incontrol.


Because opinions, yo.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
December 10 2013 16:20 GMT
#39
Harstem !
RIP MKP
pNRG
Profile Joined February 2012
United States333 Posts
December 10 2013 16:34 GMT
#40
On December 11 2013 00:42 Shyndashu wrote:
I don't understand why people keep using grubby for casting. He's not entertaining and his voice is annoying. Would've much rather had incontrol.


I find Grubby entertaining and find nothing wrong his his voice. /opinion

Also I have been calling Nathanias Mr. Bitter Jr. for a while now lol
"He's like a Kakuna with Flamestrike." - Artosis 25.7.2014 \\ "Sometimes you gotta' be manly to get out of the group stage, Reynad." -Artosis 17.10.2014 \\ “There goes your dream of a frivolous lawsuit with a brewing company.” – Tasteless 26.8.2015
HeavenResign
Profile Joined April 2011
United States702 Posts
December 10 2013 16:41 GMT
#41
On December 11 2013 00:42 Shyndashu wrote:
I don't understand why people keep using grubby for casting. He's not entertaining and his voice is annoying. Would've much rather had incontrol.


In terms of cost they aren't really comparable, everyone else is already in Europe.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 10 2013 16:46 GMT
#42
People who think Nathanias sounds like Mr. Bitter are silly
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
December 10 2013 17:11 GMT
#43
good line-up!!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 10 2013 17:54 GMT
#44
Atc is gonna be so good! Go Acer!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
December 10 2013 18:22 GMT
#45
Great line-up!
Moderatorlickypiddy
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
December 10 2013 18:27 GMT
#46
On December 10 2013 22:41 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
Im excited!

Will Total Biscuit be there too? Last time some (?) of the team owners were there too. The millenium and the teamliquid guy i think at least.


"the teamliquid guy", on TL.net. Love it ^_^
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
December 10 2013 18:38 GMT
#47
On December 11 2013 00:23 kotlok wrote:
Did Take and Total Biscuits talks things out? Because Axiom takes part at ATC after all.


thinking the same thing here. Didn't TB state the Axiom will never be involved with anything involving TakeTV
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
December 10 2013 18:48 GMT
#48
On December 10 2013 23:49 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 23:44 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On December 10 2013 23:30 Marou wrote:
It's really cool that Mr.Bitter gets to cast something in Europe it's been awhile !


mr. bitter wont be there. He doesnt go to TakeTV tournaments anymore since he's too involved with World of Tanks.


It was a joke
+ Show Spoiler +
Nathanias supposedly sounds like Mr.Bitter

... now I can't unhear it T.T
Srontgorrth
Profile Joined August 2012
United States204 Posts
December 10 2013 18:51 GMT
#49
On December 11 2013 00:33 Marou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 23:49 NovaMB wrote:
On December 10 2013 23:44 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On December 10 2013 23:30 Marou wrote:
It's really cool that Mr.Bitter gets to cast something in Europe it's been awhile !


mr. bitter wont be there. He doesnt go to TakeTV tournaments anymore since he's too involved with World of Tanks.


It was a joke
+ Show Spoiler +
Nathanias supposedly sounds like Mr.Bitter


+ Show Spoiler +
Harstem does a scary accurate impersonation of Mr.Bitter. :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdLQzAQ0UeQ

hahaha, that was pretty good. whenever harstem casts i can't help but think of the one time he said while casting:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"i think that message boards were created so that shy people could be assholes"
claybones
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States244 Posts
December 10 2013 19:16 GMT
#50
I remember when I couldn't even find an English stream for ATC. Thanks for putting so much effort into expanding and improving.
AKnopf
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany259 Posts
December 10 2013 19:31 GMT
#51
Nice. I like Grubby as a caster. He is not your average throwing-phrases-at-you caster type of guy (since he actually is not a caster I guess). I also like his sense of humor.

I also thought Khaldor and Grubby worked well together at ASUS ROG NorthCon 2013 last weekend.
The world - its a funny place
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
December 10 2013 19:55 GMT
#52
The ATC finals this weekend is gonna be a blast. We already have people like Scarlett&TLO arround, but with this bunch of nice casters, the event is only getting better and better.

i hope for many San games. :D
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 10 2013 20:14 GMT
#53
Should be a fun end. Too bad San can't go
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Comadevil
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany214 Posts
December 10 2013 21:13 GMT
#54
On December 11 2013 04:55 Pyloss wrote:
i hope for many San games. :D

San does not attend. He has to play Tesl
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
December 10 2013 21:33 GMT
#55
Don't really care for Khaldor's casting as of late. He get's things wrong too often, calls games too early, incessant shouting of non excitement over trivial moves, and the use of "internet" slang is very cringey.

Really looking forward to Grubby and Nathanias. The event should be fun!
CloudMage
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada221 Posts
December 10 2013 22:26 GMT
#56
hell ya i love grubby casting!
HuK <3 WhiteRa <3 Grubby <3 TLO <3 Day[9] <3
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 10 2013 22:27 GMT
#57
On December 11 2013 00:36 Greendotz wrote:
I am an Axiom man myself, but I have to cheer for WW, even if it is just 100% Korean ringers, any team with San will always have my loyalty ^_^


But San won't be there for this tournament, he is playing for his actual team (yfwolves) in TeSL.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
December 10 2013 22:36 GMT
#58
On December 10 2013 23:00 kisoso wrote:
Despite the downtime at ASUS ROG, I had a great time with Grubby's casting. I'm really looking forward for this one.


true that. Grubbys insight on the game is something I dont see in any other caster.
~
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 10 2013 22:49 GMT
#59
Really enjoy Nathanias casting!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 10 2013 23:17 GMT
#60
On December 11 2013 06:33 TeslasPigeon wrote:
Don't really care for Khaldor's casting as of late. He get's things wrong too often, calls games too early, incessant shouting of non excitement over trivial moves, and the use of "internet" slang is very cringey.

Really looking forward to Grubby and Nathanias. The event should be fun!

It seems like something that happens to many veteran casters eventually. It's such a protected, insular community at that level that complacency doesn't really have much in the way of consequences. Not saying Khaldor is like that, he comes across as a hard working guy, not to mention a hard working out guy.

Still though, non-pro gamer casters in general tend to be rather mediocre, I typically run on mute unless some specific people are casting.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
December 10 2013 23:37 GMT
#61
I'll watch any tourney with Grubby casting!
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
December 11 2013 01:22 GMT
#62
I think Acer has this
Terran it up.
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 03:20:28
December 11 2013 03:05 GMT
#63
Guys - every caster has a purpose (in general):

1. Casters of type "intelligence" which talk about what the players are thinking and what they are probably gonna do, or they aren't going to, but should do
// Tasteless, Apollo

2. Casters that talk about player's performances and what they're usually capable of and did they execute well what was supposed to
// Artosis, Nathanias, ToD

3. Casters I like to call "encyclopedia" casters which "FOLLOW" more than they cast - they know if a player did well (insert days) ago
// Khaldor, Mr.Bitter, Total-Biscuit (maybe), there used to be the Super-Daniel-Man back in the days if you know what I mean

4. Casters/Players which role is to entertain and keep viewers closer to the content, or even make players interact (the later is usually done by the host-role)
// Day[9], iNControl

5. There are casters/players that give insight of their own
// Grubby, Scarlett, TLO, e.t.c.

6. There are casters/players that do the critique and give us the glorious insight of the possible w.t.f. factor in the situation in the game that currently might be going on.. ofc --> their usual contribution base is the category #1, but cause them also being players themselves -- they can do even better than that when the time comes
// MC being the best example of this.. Followed closely by IdrA (maybe), though not sure if it's even close..

Instead of talking BS about any of them - try to get/understand which group they usually belong to and judge the quality of them by that measure

But yah - pretty happy about the lineup TBH.. It's pretty good for not a WCS major event IMO
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
December 11 2013 03:12 GMT
#64
I wanna say that I'm happy that Harstem gets to commentate in this tournament. To me is not 'just' a good player who can cast, but also a good caster.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
December 11 2013 07:28 GMT
#65
KHALDORRR
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
December 11 2013 07:56 GMT
#66
Yes, Nathanias!
Iznogood
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark21 Posts
December 11 2013 10:05 GMT
#67
Excuse me, if anyone gets offended, but I won´t watch ANYTHING Nathanias.
Came across his stream and what a whiner. I totally lost all respect.
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
December 11 2013 10:33 GMT
#68
On December 11 2013 12:05 VArsovskiSC wrote:
Guys - every caster has a purpose (in general):

1. Casters of type "intelligence" which talk about what the players are thinking and what they are probably gonna do, or they aren't going to, but should do
// Tasteless, Apollo

2. Casters that talk about player's performances and what they're usually capable of and did they execute well what was supposed to
// Artosis, Nathanias, ToD

3. Casters I like to call "encyclopedia" casters which "FOLLOW" more than they cast - they know if a player did well (insert days) ago
// Khaldor, Mr.Bitter, Total-Biscuit (maybe), there used to be the Super-Daniel-Man back in the days if you know what I mean

4. Casters/Players which role is to entertain and keep viewers closer to the content, or even make players interact (the later is usually done by the host-role)
// Day[9], iNControl

5. There are casters/players that give insight of their own
// Grubby, Scarlett, TLO, e.t.c.

6. There are casters/players that do the critique and give us the glorious insight of the possible w.t.f. factor in the situation in the game that currently might be going on.. ofc --> their usual contribution base is the category #1, but cause them also being players themselves -- they can do even better than that when the time comes
// MC being the best example of this.. Followed closely by IdrA (maybe), though not sure if it's even close..

Instead of talking BS about any of them - try to get/understand which group they usually belong to and judge the quality of them by that measure

But yah - pretty happy about the lineup TBH.. It's pretty good for not a WCS major event IMO


Did I just read a SDM reference? Oh snap!

Well, as long as he wasn't casting IdrA...
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
December 11 2013 14:59 GMT
#69
On December 11 2013 19:05 Iznogood wrote:
Excuse me, if anyone gets offended, but I won´t watch ANYTHING Nathanias.
Came across his stream and what a whiner. I totally lost all respect.


He balance whines on his stream, yeah, but right now there's a lot of Terran QQ going around. It makes me not watch him play the game, but he's still a great caster for tournies.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Nathanias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
December 11 2013 15:28 GMT
#70
I'm just one of many Terrans that really doesn't like playing TvP I hope that doesn't make you hate me forever tho. Still like to cast but anyone who gets all-inned 5 times in a row will whine!
CommentatorNever give up, Never surrender
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 11 2013 15:31 GMT
#71
I sympathize with terrans playing TvP right now, it looks...frustrating.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 15:45:53
December 11 2013 15:45 GMT
#72
It's definitely true that Khaldor has been getting shouty lately. I hope he'll tone it down a bit.
Edit: and just to be clear, I like both his casting and his attitude toward the job.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
December 11 2013 16:04 GMT
#73
On December 12 2013 00:28 Nathanias wrote:
I'm just one of many Terrans that really doesn't like playing TvP I hope that doesn't make you hate me forever tho. Still like to cast but anyone who gets all-inned 5 times in a row will whine!


That was like 2 months ago!

I don't hate ya, but the "TvP is sooooo hard" QQ posts are getting out of hand in general. However, I can totally relate based on my experiences in other games. Sometimes it's not *that* you lost, but *how* you lost. Even if you go 50/50 against a certain opponent, it can be very frustrating when that opponent beats you in a certain way; TSG or mage/rogue in WoW arena, Freeze Mages in Hearthstone, Singed in LoL, or all-in/cheese in SC2.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
FunKaDeLiC
Profile Joined April 2010
France79 Posts
December 11 2013 17:23 GMT
#74
WOOT WOOT ! Great line up ! Enjoy guys !
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
December 11 2013 19:20 GMT
#75
Thank god Nathanias is casting :D
Official Nathanias Fanclub Manager! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=401880
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
December 11 2013 20:07 GMT
#76
Will you now stay in Europe Khaldor or back to Korea after this?
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
December 11 2013 22:18 GMT
#77
On December 12 2013 01:04 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 00:28 Nathanias wrote:
I'm just one of many Terrans that really doesn't like playing TvP I hope that doesn't make you hate me forever tho. Still like to cast but anyone who gets all-inned 5 times in a row will whine!


That was like 2 months ago!

I don't hate ya, but the "TvP is sooooo hard" QQ posts are getting out of hand in general. However, I can totally relate based on my experiences in other games. Sometimes it's not *that* you lost, but *how* you lost. Even if you go 50/50 against a certain opponent, it can be very frustrating when that opponent beats you in a certain way; TSG or mage/rogue in WoW arena, Freeze Mages in Hearthstone, Singed in LoL, or all-in/cheese in SC2.

Well...I hate to go there, but it's not like the Terran QQ is completely unjustified in TvP. Predicting all ins can be like smashing your head against a wall. No fun And if you're someone that tries to play macro (Nathanias tends to play macro games from what I've seen), it can be frustrating as hell losing games outright to all ins.

IdrA does the same exact things, but he has such a polarizing personality (same as NaNiwa) that it makes up for it. I guess people either love or hate the people that are honest about how they feel with certain things. There's nothing in between it apparently. I'd rather have someone that's honest with how they feel about the game and provide honest feedback than someone that just completely bs's and makes it seem like they love the game all the time and think everything about it is perfect. Just seems to insincere. I like the passion that people who are honest about the game have, because it makes them seem like they want to see the game be the best it can. Obviously there are people who feel that they just want easier wins, but I tend to think it's the other way.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
December 11 2013 22:58 GMT
#78
IMO it's actually more interesting when casters show their biases in cast as the alternative almost feels disingenuous. So long as casters don't use their position as a platform, I don't mind QQing in casting. Take Tod for example, he rages hard on social media, but when he's casting it's mostly self-deprecating balance whine so it's quite entertaining.
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
White-Ra 216
Nina 143
SpeCial 129
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaeyun 49
Leta 28
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm110
Counter-Strike
fl0m1368
Other Games
summit1g8774
Grubby5874
FrodaN2440
C9.Mang0167
ViBE119
Trikslyr65
ZombieGrub36
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick298
BasetradeTV30
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 82
• davetesta33
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• mYiSmile162
• Azhi_Dahaki3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22000
League of Legends
• Doublelift5233
Other Games
• imaqtpie1201
• Scarra918
• WagamamaTV463
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
7h 21m
Classic vs MaxPax
SHIN vs Reynor
herO vs Maru
WardiTV Korean Royale
11h 51m
SC Evo League
12h 21m
IPSL
16h 51m
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
OSC
16h 51m
BSL 21
19h 51m
TerrOr vs Aeternum
HBO vs Kyrie
RSL Revival
1d 7h
Wardi Open
1d 13h
IPSL
1d 19h
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
BSL 21
1d 19h
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
[ Show More ]
OSC
1d 22h
OSC
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LAN Event
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.