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SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
December 10 2013 23:37 GMT
#61
I'll watch any tourney with Grubby casting!
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
December 11 2013 01:22 GMT
#62
I think Acer has this
Terran it up.
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 03:20:28
December 11 2013 03:05 GMT
#63
Guys - every caster has a purpose (in general):

1. Casters of type "intelligence" which talk about what the players are thinking and what they are probably gonna do, or they aren't going to, but should do
// Tasteless, Apollo

2. Casters that talk about player's performances and what they're usually capable of and did they execute well what was supposed to
// Artosis, Nathanias, ToD

3. Casters I like to call "encyclopedia" casters which "FOLLOW" more than they cast - they know if a player did well (insert days) ago
// Khaldor, Mr.Bitter, Total-Biscuit (maybe), there used to be the Super-Daniel-Man back in the days if you know what I mean

4. Casters/Players which role is to entertain and keep viewers closer to the content, or even make players interact (the later is usually done by the host-role)
// Day[9], iNControl

5. There are casters/players that give insight of their own
// Grubby, Scarlett, TLO, e.t.c.

6. There are casters/players that do the critique and give us the glorious insight of the possible w.t.f. factor in the situation in the game that currently might be going on.. ofc --> their usual contribution base is the category #1, but cause them also being players themselves -- they can do even better than that when the time comes
// MC being the best example of this.. Followed closely by IdrA (maybe), though not sure if it's even close..

Instead of talking BS about any of them - try to get/understand which group they usually belong to and judge the quality of them by that measure

But yah - pretty happy about the lineup TBH.. It's pretty good for not a WCS major event IMO
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
December 11 2013 03:12 GMT
#64
I wanna say that I'm happy that Harstem gets to commentate in this tournament. To me is not 'just' a good player who can cast, but also a good caster.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
December 11 2013 07:28 GMT
#65
KHALDORRR
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
December 11 2013 07:56 GMT
#66
Yes, Nathanias!
Iznogood
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark21 Posts
December 11 2013 10:05 GMT
#67
Excuse me, if anyone gets offended, but I won´t watch ANYTHING Nathanias.
Came across his stream and what a whiner. I totally lost all respect.
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
December 11 2013 10:33 GMT
#68
On December 11 2013 12:05 VArsovskiSC wrote:
Guys - every caster has a purpose (in general):

1. Casters of type "intelligence" which talk about what the players are thinking and what they are probably gonna do, or they aren't going to, but should do
// Tasteless, Apollo

2. Casters that talk about player's performances and what they're usually capable of and did they execute well what was supposed to
// Artosis, Nathanias, ToD

3. Casters I like to call "encyclopedia" casters which "FOLLOW" more than they cast - they know if a player did well (insert days) ago
// Khaldor, Mr.Bitter, Total-Biscuit (maybe), there used to be the Super-Daniel-Man back in the days if you know what I mean

4. Casters/Players which role is to entertain and keep viewers closer to the content, or even make players interact (the later is usually done by the host-role)
// Day[9], iNControl

5. There are casters/players that give insight of their own
// Grubby, Scarlett, TLO, e.t.c.

6. There are casters/players that do the critique and give us the glorious insight of the possible w.t.f. factor in the situation in the game that currently might be going on.. ofc --> their usual contribution base is the category #1, but cause them also being players themselves -- they can do even better than that when the time comes
// MC being the best example of this.. Followed closely by IdrA (maybe), though not sure if it's even close..

Instead of talking BS about any of them - try to get/understand which group they usually belong to and judge the quality of them by that measure

But yah - pretty happy about the lineup TBH.. It's pretty good for not a WCS major event IMO


Did I just read a SDM reference? Oh snap!

Well, as long as he wasn't casting IdrA...
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
December 11 2013 14:59 GMT
#69
On December 11 2013 19:05 Iznogood wrote:
Excuse me, if anyone gets offended, but I won´t watch ANYTHING Nathanias.
Came across his stream and what a whiner. I totally lost all respect.


He balance whines on his stream, yeah, but right now there's a lot of Terran QQ going around. It makes me not watch him play the game, but he's still a great caster for tournies.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Nathanias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
December 11 2013 15:28 GMT
#70
I'm just one of many Terrans that really doesn't like playing TvP I hope that doesn't make you hate me forever tho. Still like to cast but anyone who gets all-inned 5 times in a row will whine!
CommentatorNever give up, Never surrender
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 11 2013 15:31 GMT
#71
I sympathize with terrans playing TvP right now, it looks...frustrating.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 15:45:53
December 11 2013 15:45 GMT
#72
It's definitely true that Khaldor has been getting shouty lately. I hope he'll tone it down a bit.
Edit: and just to be clear, I like both his casting and his attitude toward the job.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
December 11 2013 16:04 GMT
#73
On December 12 2013 00:28 Nathanias wrote:
I'm just one of many Terrans that really doesn't like playing TvP I hope that doesn't make you hate me forever tho. Still like to cast but anyone who gets all-inned 5 times in a row will whine!


That was like 2 months ago!

I don't hate ya, but the "TvP is sooooo hard" QQ posts are getting out of hand in general. However, I can totally relate based on my experiences in other games. Sometimes it's not *that* you lost, but *how* you lost. Even if you go 50/50 against a certain opponent, it can be very frustrating when that opponent beats you in a certain way; TSG or mage/rogue in WoW arena, Freeze Mages in Hearthstone, Singed in LoL, or all-in/cheese in SC2.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
FunKaDeLiC
Profile Joined April 2010
France79 Posts
December 11 2013 17:23 GMT
#74
WOOT WOOT ! Great line up ! Enjoy guys !
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
December 11 2013 19:20 GMT
#75
Thank god Nathanias is casting :D
Official Nathanias Fanclub Manager! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=401880
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
December 11 2013 20:07 GMT
#76
Will you now stay in Europe Khaldor or back to Korea after this?
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
December 11 2013 22:18 GMT
#77
On December 12 2013 01:04 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 00:28 Nathanias wrote:
I'm just one of many Terrans that really doesn't like playing TvP I hope that doesn't make you hate me forever tho. Still like to cast but anyone who gets all-inned 5 times in a row will whine!


That was like 2 months ago!

I don't hate ya, but the "TvP is sooooo hard" QQ posts are getting out of hand in general. However, I can totally relate based on my experiences in other games. Sometimes it's not *that* you lost, but *how* you lost. Even if you go 50/50 against a certain opponent, it can be very frustrating when that opponent beats you in a certain way; TSG or mage/rogue in WoW arena, Freeze Mages in Hearthstone, Singed in LoL, or all-in/cheese in SC2.

Well...I hate to go there, but it's not like the Terran QQ is completely unjustified in TvP. Predicting all ins can be like smashing your head against a wall. No fun And if you're someone that tries to play macro (Nathanias tends to play macro games from what I've seen), it can be frustrating as hell losing games outright to all ins.

IdrA does the same exact things, but he has such a polarizing personality (same as NaNiwa) that it makes up for it. I guess people either love or hate the people that are honest about how they feel with certain things. There's nothing in between it apparently. I'd rather have someone that's honest with how they feel about the game and provide honest feedback than someone that just completely bs's and makes it seem like they love the game all the time and think everything about it is perfect. Just seems to insincere. I like the passion that people who are honest about the game have, because it makes them seem like they want to see the game be the best it can. Obviously there are people who feel that they just want easier wins, but I tend to think it's the other way.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
December 11 2013 22:58 GMT
#78
IMO it's actually more interesting when casters show their biases in cast as the alternative almost feels disingenuous. So long as casters don't use their position as a platform, I don't mind QQing in casting. Take Tod for example, he rages hard on social media, but when he's casting it's mostly self-deprecating balance whine so it's quite entertaining.
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