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Peliliiga’s statement about ASUS ROG NorthCon

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ROGtournament
Profile Joined July 2013
29 Posts
December 07 2013 01:29 GMT
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ASUS ROG StarCraft II tournament organizer in Nordic countries, Peliliiga comments on the management of the NorthCon ASUS ROG Tournament after the first day of the event.

The NorthCon ASUS ROG StarCraft II Tournament started today on December 6th 2013. The tournament has faced many problems right from the start which have been apparent to every party involved including the players and the audience. Some of the problems have been out of the hands of the organizers, such as the bad weather in Germany affecting the travel schedules of the players and the staff, but no doubt a portion of the problems can be attributed to the lack of experience in running a high caliber offline tournament.

We at Peliliiga, which is the organizer behind the ASUS ROG StarCraft II tournaments held in the past, have been following the event closely. After the troublesome first day at NorthCon, we saw it necessary to inform the esports community that the ASUS ROG Tournament at NorthCon 2013 is independent from Peliliiga and the events organized by Peliliiga.

Peliliiga wishes NorthCon the best of luck for tomorrow. Apparently at least the stream issues are being taken care of. Let us hope the second day at the NorthCon ASUS ROG Tournament redeems the first by offering an entertaining tournament at the quality the community has been accustomed to.

Peliliiga CEO
Petri Hämälä

Source: asusrogtournament.com
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 07 2013 01:32 GMT
#2
LOL this is just Peliliiga washing their hands of the tournament since it has had troubles? Nice
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
December 07 2013 01:37 GMT
#3
Good to know. I was about to make a thread on how peliliiga is responsible for these problems.
eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
December 07 2013 01:37 GMT
#4
Yeah this move seems a bit questionable.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
December 07 2013 01:39 GMT
#5
After the troublesome first day at NorthCon, we saw it necessary to inform the esports community that the ASUS ROG Tournament at NorthCon 2013 is independent from Peliliiga and the events organized by Peliliiga.

guess you wouldn't have said anything if there was no problem then and you would have received the full benefit of it :/
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Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1196 Posts
December 07 2013 01:42 GMT
#6
I'm guessing the reason behind a public statement is to secure the image in the eyes of the sponsors rather than the audience. I don't think the viewers care too much who is running the show.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44786 Posts
December 07 2013 01:45 GMT
#7
Well a public statement is better than no statement, even if it's really just a half-assed apology that points blame in a different direction.

Really hoping that tomorrow is near-flawless, so that the viewing experience is somewhat salvaged. Today was awful, with all the technical difficulty breaks and the absurd audio problems.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1196 Posts
December 07 2013 01:47 GMT
#8
On December 07 2013 10:39 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
After the troublesome first day at NorthCon, we saw it necessary to inform the esports community that the ASUS ROG Tournament at NorthCon 2013 is independent from Peliliiga and the events organized by Peliliiga.

guess you wouldn't have said anything if there was no problem then and you would have received the full benefit of it :/

Good point, but the benefits are mutual too.
starcraft2.fi
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
December 07 2013 02:09 GMT
#9
Okay, I missed ROG today, was it really that bad? After reading that post I see there been two possibilities;

First is the tournament was indeed so bad that Peliliiga, a former organiser, had to actually release a statement saying how they weren't actually involved with ROG anymore. Second is the tournament had some issues and Peliliiga saw it as an opportunity to smear ROG for whatever reason. Anyone care to elaborate a bit?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 07 2013 02:11 GMT
#10
On December 07 2013 11:09 Greendotz wrote:
Okay, I missed ROG today, was it really that bad? After reading that post I see there been two possibilities;

First is the tournament was indeed so bad that Peliliiga, a former organiser, had to actually release a statement saying how they weren't actually involved with ROG anymore. Second is the tournament had some issues and Peliliiga saw it as an opportunity to smear ROG for whatever reason. Anyone care to elaborate a bit?

Just massive lag/stream issues causing long delays.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
December 07 2013 02:17 GMT
#11
On December 07 2013 11:09 Greendotz wrote:
Okay, I missed ROG today, was it really that bad? After reading that post I see there been two possibilities;

First is the tournament was indeed so bad that Peliliiga, a former organiser, had to actually release a statement saying how they weren't actually involved with ROG anymore. Second is the tournament had some issues and Peliliiga saw it as an opportunity to smear ROG for whatever reason. Anyone care to elaborate a bit?


Was pretty terrible, several hour long delays with no information to the viewers whatsoever, main english stream was down 85% of the time. Most of the games ended up casted by the community casters (who did a great job)but there was no english one. Video quality of the main stream was between acceptable and terrible when a game finally played. Both viewers and players had lag, welmu and innovation had to wait like 3-4 hours to continue their match. Audio was all over the place and generally bad with some hilarious echo moments. In the end Khaldor and Grubby casted the final group with half a stagelight while doing production themselves pretty much.
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Prof
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada60 Posts
December 07 2013 04:53 GMT
#12
I see no problem with this statement. It is just smart business to protect the image of your company. Thanks for the info.
JP Dayne
Profile Joined June 2013
538 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 05:25:40
December 07 2013 05:25 GMT
#13
sry wrong thread
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 07 2013 06:29 GMT
#14
Was hoping for a statment from somebody at Northcon, but a statement like this from somebody not involved is just wrong on so many levels.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
December 07 2013 06:49 GMT
#15
On December 07 2013 11:09 Greendotz wrote:
Okay, I missed ROG today, was it really that bad? After reading that post I see there been two possibilities;

First is the tournament was indeed so bad that Peliliiga, a former organiser, had to actually release a statement saying how they weren't actually involved with ROG anymore. Second is the tournament had some issues and Peliliiga saw it as an opportunity to smear ROG for whatever reason. Anyone care to elaborate a bit?

Welmu vs inno. Played one match, series continued 4hours later. And whole that time they were saying 15mins now....30mins...15mins...

You cant even ladder, just wate. And the stream was horrible.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
goofyballer
Profile Joined January 2013
United States136 Posts
December 07 2013 06:53 GMT
#16
On December 07 2013 10:39 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
After the troublesome first day at NorthCon, we saw it necessary to inform the esports community that the ASUS ROG Tournament at NorthCon 2013 is independent from Peliliiga and the events organized by Peliliiga.

guess you wouldn't have said anything if there was no problem then and you would have received the full benefit of it :/


Hahahaha, Peliliiga freerolled us
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
December 07 2013 07:00 GMT
#17
On December 07 2013 15:53 goofyballer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 10:39 Yhamm wrote:
After the troublesome first day at NorthCon, we saw it necessary to inform the esports community that the ASUS ROG Tournament at NorthCon 2013 is independent from Peliliiga and the events organized by Peliliiga.

guess you wouldn't have said anything if there was no problem then and you would have received the full benefit of it :/


Hahahaha, Peliliiga freerolled us


I'd also like to inform the e-sports community that I had nothing to do with the ASUS ROG NorthCon.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
December 07 2013 07:00 GMT
#18
I hope that Northcon gets its act together if only so that when Scarlett plays SHOUTcraft America from their computers it won't lag for her o_o
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 07:05:31
December 07 2013 07:04 GMT
#19
On December 07 2013 10:29 ROGtournament wrote:
ASUS ROG StarCraft II tournament organizer in Nordic countries, Peliliiga comments on the management of the NorthCon ASUS ROG Tournament after the first day of the event.

This shit isn't our fault. Insert PR statement here

Peliliiga CEO
Petri Hämälä

Source: asusrogtournament.com

Fixed that for you.
www.twitch.tv/varanice
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
December 07 2013 07:12 GMT
#20
On December 07 2013 10:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Well a public statement is better than no statement, even if it's really just a half-assed apology that points blame in a different direction.

Really hoping that tomorrow is near-flawless, so that the viewing experience is somewhat salvaged. Today was awful, with all the technical difficulty breaks and the absurd audio problems.

True, altough the 10khaldor's at the same time was freaking hilarious.
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
December 07 2013 07:29 GMT
#21
Well, you cant blame peliliika doing this.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
December 07 2013 07:31 GMT
#22
Nice job throwing ROG under the bus there
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
December 07 2013 07:36 GMT
#23
Talk about being blunt.

On December 07 2013 16:00 plogamer wrote:
I'd also like to inform the e-sports community that I had nothing to do with the ASUS ROG NorthCon.

Maybe you should make a thread about it ^_~
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
December 07 2013 07:40 GMT
#24
A good reason why tournaments operated by entirely different groups, despite being sponsored by the same organization, should probably not use the same name for their event.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
December 07 2013 07:59 GMT
#25
I tried to watch this tournament for a few hours yesterday and didn't even catch one game, I hope for them that it's going to go smoothly today because I'm not going to wait for more than a couple of minuets.
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
December 07 2013 08:09 GMT
#26
Damn, that is cold.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
December 07 2013 08:17 GMT
#27
On December 07 2013 16:40 Adebisi wrote:
A good reason why tournaments operated by entirely different groups, despite being sponsored by the same organization, should probably not use the same name for their event.

Name is different:D

This is NorthCon, peliliiga organizes Summer and Winter :D
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
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