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DertoQq
France906 Posts
On December 03 2013 04:52 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: This is what I don't understand. He makes it to top Diamond in day, and I've been working and studying hard just to get above Gold....  any master player can do that. the same way you would probably get easily to silver if you switched to another race | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8366 Posts
 Though beating up diamond/master players should be the most normal thing for like every pro who is offracing. Can't wait for him to meet higher level players. And whether "toss is imba" will still apply - or not  | ||
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
On December 03 2013 04:56 Doublemint wrote: sjow playing toss is quite hilarious Though beating up diamond/master players should be the most normal thing for like every pro who is offracing. Can't wait for him to meet higher level players. And whether "toss is imba" will still apply - or not I think it will be harder, because toss is no one-trick-pony. You need to learn super-cheesy builds, all-ins, pressures, macro builds, solid defense etc etc. I can't tell really if these how hard are all these things at GM level but there is a lot of them for sure. Meanwhile Sjow beats a top-8 master zerg in a baserace, even thou he forgot to build the MCS. "Play for one week - win GSL" - says Sjow. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On December 03 2013 04:52 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: This is what I don't understand. He makes it to top Diamond in day, and I've been working and studying hard just to get above Gold.... After all it's all about game sense. You just need to understand how sc2 works, what counters what. You dont need perfect build. Just counter what enemy is doing. | ||
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Greendotz
United Kingdom2053 Posts
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Pirfiktshon
United States1072 Posts
On December 03 2013 04:52 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: This is what I don't understand. He makes it to top Diamond in day, and I've been working and studying hard just to get above Gold.... After all it's all about game sense. You just need to understand how sc2 works, what counters what. You dont need perfect build. Just counter what enemy is doing. This is how protoss works haahaha HOnestly as protoss you just need good Tech flow mechanics and utilize the tools you are given and you can get really really far.... | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
On December 03 2013 05:04 Greendotz wrote: Well, he called his account "PatchToss" which I found amusing, but got bored very quickly watching his stream. I've only been watching for a short time but 3 out of the 4 last games he's won he's just bitched about how he shouldn't of won and how toss is imba. Got to be honest, I'm hoping he fails. The concept of a pro b*tching that he shouldn't have won against a diamond level NA player makes me laugh. When you are salty, you will find anything to complain about On December 03 2013 05:05 Pirfiktshon wrote: This is how protoss works haahaha HOnestly as protoss you just need good Tech flow mechanics and utilize the tools you are given and you can get really really far.... This just in, toss is the only race you can win with when you utilize the tools you are given. To win as T and Z, you have to hack the game to access tools you were not originally given. | ||
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never_Nal
Costa Rica676 Posts
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KingofGods
Canada1218 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 03 2013 05:04 Greendotz wrote: Well, he called his account "PatchToss" which I found amusing, but got bored very quickly watching his stream. I've only been watching for a short time but 3 out of the 4 last games he's won he's just bitched about how he shouldn't of won and how toss is imba. Got to be honest, I'm hoping he fails. He will if he keeps that up. I think this is how Idra would act if he played Protoss. I know he just macroed his way up to high masters with Terran because he could. | ||
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ReMinD_
Croatia846 Posts
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8366 Posts
On December 03 2013 05:17 scypio wrote: Sjow says he's about to play vs Thorzain in a cup. Well, time to put his toss powers to a real test I guess. Gonna be funny indeed ^_^ | ||
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keglu
Poland485 Posts
On December 03 2013 05:17 scypio wrote: Sjow says he's about to play vs Thorzain in a cup. Well, time to put his toss powers to a real test I guess. Since he is losing to diamond players i assume it won't end well | ||
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
 Thorzain vs  Sjow g1 Yeonsu LE. 0:00 Thorzain spawns top right. Sjow spawns bottom left. 1:55 13gate 14 gas from sjow. second pylon at 15. chronoboosting probes. 3:00 cyber core and second gas otw. No zealot. 4:00 Tzains reaper arrives. Expo eng-bay blocked. 4:33 Sjow kills the reaper with his first stalker. 5:00 3 more gates from Sjow. no expansion still. 6:30 4 gates opening. Thorzain is ready with a bunker and a marauder. 8:00 supply blocked at 41 supply. blinks into main with 8 stalkers. 9:26: blinks in with 16 stalkers. Tzain has medivicas and stim. half of the stalkers die. 10:30 expansion for Sjow building. 53 supply, 13 stalkers with blink. 12:30 Sjow at 62 supply. Tzain with a ton of MMM. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
On December 03 2013 05:38 Darkhoarse wrote: Sjow is playing toss in this showmatch on his first day of toss? GL man. No, he is playing in a tournament. | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
On December 03 2013 05:29 scypio wrote: Sjow POV LR :D Thorzain vs Sjow g1 Yeonsu LE. 0:00 Thorzain spawns top right. Sjow spawns bottom left. 1:55 13gate 14 gas from sjow. second pylon at 15. chronoboosting probes. 3:00 cyber core and second gas otw. No zealot. 4:00 Tzains reaper arrives. Expo eng-bay blocked. 4:33 Sjow kills the reaper with his first stalker. 5:00 3 more gates from Sjow. no expansion still. 6:30 4 gates opening. Thorzain is ready with a bunker and a marauder. 8:00 supply blocked at 41 supply. blinks into main with 8 stalkers. 9:26: blinks in with 16 stalkers. Tzain has medivicas and stim. half of the stalkers die. 10:30 expansion for Sjow building. 53 supply, 13 stalkers with blink. 12:30 Sjow at 62 supply. Tzain with a ton of MMM. lol what a joke so far haha Why is he blink all-inning every game anyway I thought he was seriously interested in learning toss | ||
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Bam Lee
2336 Posts
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
On December 03 2013 05:29 scypio wrote: Sjow POV LR :D Thorzain vs Sjow g1 Yeonsu LE. + Show Spoiler + 0:00 Thorzain spawns top right. Sjow spawns bottom left. 1:55 13gate 14 gas from sjow. second pylon at 15. chronoboosting probes. 3:00 cyber core and second gas otw. No zealot. 4:00 Tzains reaper arrives. Expo eng-bay blocked. 4:33 Sjow kills the reaper with his first stalker. 5:00 3 more gates from Sjow. no expansion still. 6:30 4 gates opening. Thorzain is ready with a bunker and a marauder. 8:00 supply blocked at 41 supply. blinks into main with 8 stalkers. 9:26: blinks in with 16 stalkers. Tzain has medivicas and stim. half of the stalkers die. 10:30 expansion for Sjow building. 53 supply, 13 stalkers with blink. 12:30 Sjow at 62 supply. Tzain with a ton of MMM. 14:20 sjow at 86 supply. building templar archives. Tzain moving out, takes down the MCS. End is nigh. 15:45 Tzain with SCV train? or possibly just taking a fourth. 16:34 SCV train it is. 8+ medivacs, a ton of MM and a ton of scvs. everything dies. Thorzain vs Sjow g1 Yeonsu LE 1:0 | ||
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