• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:13
CEST 17:13
KST 00:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy2GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding4Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage5Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The China Politics Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1865 users

Liquid`HerO - The Heart of Winter - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
49 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
November 28 2013 12:03 GMT
#41
On November 28 2013 20:50 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 20:36 Daswollvieh wrote:
ForGG/Hyun/Leenock should win this, so we can stay true to the year-of-no-storyline-2013.


People seem to think that there are no storylines unless the same player wins multiple times. That's not the case, and I can think of several for this tournament that specifically involve players not winning.

+ Show Spoiler +
-Will Jaedong shake off his tendency to choke or will he remain without a major gold in Starcraft II?
-Will Innovation continue to disappoint (relative to his mid-2013 domincnace) or has he fixed the flaws in his play?
-CAN SOS WIN DH TO LAUGH IN PARTINGS FACE?
-Will Naniwa continue to make a case for being the best foreigner (OF ALL TIME) with the home field advantage?
-Can Sjow do something equally insane this time around?
-Can ForGG finally come through with a big win to show everyone that Polt isn't the only guy who can remain top-tier in a foreign country?
-Which of the result twins (MMA and Life) will make the deeper run?
-Will JYP win a game?


One can only bear Jaedong losing in the finals so many times. At the end of the days, big stories are: "Who won?" and "Did a foreigner make a deep run?". So if the winner has no story behind his win like previous wins, overcoming a slump, bloody spectacular play, then the turn-out is quite meh. Well, speaking for myself of course. I love positive stories like that of duckdeock or Jaedong finally winning and exloding emotionally, Naniwa standing tall against Korean dominance, TLO being creative (tm), sOs/Innovation/Taeja/Life showing brilliant play and hardly giving a fuck. But people failing to deliver be it HerO, Jaedong, Innovation, I can live without that.

If only there was a HerO vs Jaedong final, everybody would win.
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
November 28 2013 19:19 GMT
#42
TL has really upped their article game lately.
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 28 2013 23:12 GMT
#43
amazing write up :D
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
November 29 2013 01:48 GMT
#44
On November 28 2013 20:50 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 20:36 Daswollvieh wrote:
ForGG/Hyun/Leenock should win this, so we can stay true to the year-of-no-storyline-2013.


People seem to think that there are no storylines unless the same player wins multiple times. That's not the case, and I can think of several for this tournament that specifically involve players not winning.

+ Show Spoiler +
-Will Jaedong shake off his tendency to choke or will he remain without a major gold in Starcraft II?
-Will Innovation continue to disappoint (relative to his mid-2013 domincnace) or has he fixed the flaws in his play?
-CAN SOS WIN DH TO LAUGH IN PARTINGS FACE?
-Will Naniwa continue to make a case for being the best foreigner (OF ALL TIME) with the home field advantage?
-Can Sjow do something equally insane this time around?
-Can ForGG finally come through with a big win to show everyone that Polt isn't the only guy who can remain top-tier in a foreign country?
-Which of the result twins (MMA and Life) will make the deeper run?
-Will JYP win a game?


I think we were all proven wrong with that JYP comment when he was at the top of his group halfway through group stages. My jaw literally dropped when I saw the results. I thought there was a typo in Liquipedia. Not trying to bash him or anything, but wow, go JYP, good for you!
@ranleee /// "first we expand, then we defense it'
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26535 Posts
November 29 2013 01:53 GMT
#45
I was there, god those nerdchills be coming back. Cheers for the writeup!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 29 2013 05:10 GMT
#46
Finally managed to read this. Well written. Good hype.

Time for a threepeat.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
SaintEaon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States38 Posts
November 30 2013 04:46 GMT
#47
On November 28 2013 19:06 sithvincent wrote:
Dat team liquid write up bias :D

Where's some love for other players? INnoVation? sOs? MMA?


INnoVation's like that underaged girl at any party every who gets a little bit of booze and can't handle it. He's really good when no one's watching, but like all the proclaimed "Best Players!" that SC2 loves to crown he faded just as quickly as he came. sOs doesn't need hype he's the Undisputed WCS Champion of The World, and MMA's MMA.

However...

HerO has more consistency than INnoVation + HerO can actually beat Taeja. sOs is the current hot topic because of how recent WCS was, however even if sOs is "the Most creative Toss", he's the second Protoss to wear that Mantle in recent years, the first being HerO, and MMA's always a solid choice, but I think HerO's much more solid.

If you want to say someone's the best you have to look at them over all. HerO has stunning performances across the board, great macro and micro and always packs championship level performances. He actually can be called the best because he has consistency.
Humanity is overrated.
zmsFlood
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland169 Posts
December 01 2013 15:48 GMT
#48
So well written my fellow countryman. Too bad HerO didn't win it this time, but I'm sure he'll be back
twitter.com/laurifalck | I don't want to get you drunk, but, ah, that's a very fine Chardonnay you're not drinking. | TLO!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 01 2013 15:53 GMT
#49
Summer is still here.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 01 2013 15:56 GMT
#50
On December 02 2013 00:48 zmsFlood wrote:
So well written my fellow countryman. Too bad HerO didn't win it this time, but I'm sure he'll be back


Why does everybody always think I'm Finnish? D:
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15:00
Season 2 - Bonus Cup 7
LiquipediaDiscussion
WardiTV Team League
11:00
Playoffs Day 2
WardiTV878
ComeBackTV 601
IndyStarCraft 189
Rex100
3DClanTV 53
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
uThermal 221
IndyStarCraft 189
elazer 106
Rex 100
mouzHeroMarine 43
White-Ra 12
goblin 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 57152
Mini 1008
EffOrt 908
Shuttle 739
firebathero 446
Shine 367
ggaemo 316
hero 203
Light 185
Zeus 155
[ Show more ]
PianO 90
Sexy 90
[sc1f]eonzerg 52
Shinee 47
Movie 44
Hm[arnc] 38
scan(afreeca) 27
ToSsGirL 27
910 26
Rock 18
yabsab 14
Noble 13
Terrorterran 12
Sacsri 12
GoRush 12
Dota 2
Gorgc13076
qojqva1851
syndereN379
Counter-Strike
fl0m3355
kennyS2217
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor197
MindelVK16
Other Games
singsing1885
B2W.Neo1572
FrodaN712
Beastyqt386
Lowko357
DeMusliM232
XaKoH 138
RotterdaM134
QueenE62
Trikslyr22
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL33181
Other Games
BasetradeTV920
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 80
• Adnapsc2 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2223
• TFBlade1428
Upcoming Events
IPSL
47m
Hawk vs TBD
StRyKeR vs TBD
BSL
3h 47m
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
18h 47m
WardiTV Team League
19h 47m
OSC
21h 47m
BSL
1d 3h
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
IPSL
1d 3h
Artosis vs TBD
Napoleon vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 17h
Wardi Open
1d 18h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 18h
Soma vs YSC
Sharp vs sSak
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Escore
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.