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Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
November 07 2013 04:47 GMT
#21
"No matter what happens at Blizzcon, MC will be remembered as a legend of the game. But as of now, it seems like the legend has already ended, and the book of MC is merely being filled with an extended epilogue. MC, show us there's more than just checks left to sign. Show us there are still chapters to be written."

Loved the last paragraph. Favourite writer so far ^^
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
November 07 2013 04:49 GMT
#22
On November 07 2013 13:38 Advantageous wrote:
"The bitter truth is that MC is no longer a player you expect to tangle with the best his homeland has to offer."

I resent this quote as a MC fan (since prior to winning his first GSL against July)... Yes, I can read that it says "The bitter truth", but I still resent it... Would we ever say this about MVP? no. MMA? no. then why MC?


The fact of the matter is, MC is no longer a player you expect to tangle with the best his homeland has to offer
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
November 07 2013 04:49 GMT
#23
MC's naked pursuit of cash diminishes my enjoyment of him as a spectator.

Maybe it's idealism, but I always liked competitors who pursued greatness, or "immortality" in the form of a championship or multiple championships, rather than money. So players who talked about the importance of their place in history, like July[Zerg] or Jaedong, somehow resonate more with me.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 04:51:56
November 07 2013 04:51 GMT
#24
On November 07 2013 13:38 Advantageous wrote:
"The bitter truth is that MC is no longer a player you expect to tangle with the best his homeland has to offer."

I resent this quote as a MC fan (since prior to winning his first GSL against July)... Yes, I can read that it says "The bitter truth", but I still resent it... Would we ever say this about MVP? no. MMA? no. then why MC?




you do have a valid point. MC is what a 3 time code S GSL winner? Those were hard tournaments. MVP in my mind is the most sucessful SC 2 player at this point in time. But they never bring him down even though he hasn't really done much lately. MMA is playing great but again MMA hasn't done much. IF anything MC deserves to be included and respected as much as MVP and MMA. Also I mean people play for money they gotta eat. Glory comes from winning.
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
November 07 2013 04:55 GMT
#25
On November 07 2013 13:38 Advantageous wrote:
"The bitter truth is that MC is no longer a player you expect to tangle with the best his homeland has to offer."

I resent this quote as a MC fan (since prior to winning his first GSL against July)... Yes, I can read that it says "The bitter truth", but I still resent it... Would we ever say this about MVP? no. MMA? no. then why MC?

MC left for foreign pastures long before Mvp or Nestea did.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 07 2013 04:59 GMT
#26
On November 07 2013 13:38 Advantageous wrote:
"The bitter truth is that MC is no longer a player you expect to tangle with the best his homeland has to offer."

I resent this quote as a MC fan (since prior to winning his first GSL against July)... Yes, I can read that it says "The bitter truth", but I still resent it... Would we ever say this about MVP? no. MMA? no. then why MC?

yeah i'd say the same to both mvp and mma
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 05:02:35
November 07 2013 05:01 GMT
#27
On November 07 2013 13:38 Advantageous wrote:
"The bitter truth is that MC is no longer a player you expect to tangle with the best his homeland has to offer."

I resent this quote as a MC fan (since prior to winning his first GSL against July)... Yes, I can read that it says "The bitter truth", but I still resent it... Would we ever say this about MVP? no. MMA? no. then why MC?


People would say that about Mvp and possibly MMA too.

MC's starting to make a case that he still has some left in the tank though.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 07 2013 05:02 GMT
#28
Thanks for the writeup!
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ycyc
Profile Joined October 2013
Singapore28 Posts
November 07 2013 05:07 GMT
#29
By aiming to earn money, isn't MC also striving to win championships? It makes no sense to exclude one another. So you can't really say MC is not trying to achieve greatness.
Cyroch
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany45 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 05:10:34
November 07 2013 05:09 GMT
#30
On November 07 2013 13:49 Random_0 wrote:
MC's naked pursuit of cash diminishes my enjoyment of him as a spectator.

Maybe it's idealism, but I always liked competitors who pursued greatness, or "immortality" in the form of a championship or multiple championships, rather than money. So players who talked about the importance of their place in history, like July[Zerg] or Jaedong, somehow resonate more with me.



I don't know... The players who make it no secret that they love the money are usually very entertaining. Think of Stephano for example. He was in there for the money, and he was blunt about it and boy he brought this rockstar flair to SC2 like no other.

Plus I am not sure how many true idealistic players there actually are. I think everyone loves the money. All the while the chance to be in the spotlight and gain a certain amount of immortality are very pleasant side effects.
The point of quotations is that one can use another's words to be insulting.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 05:20:06
November 07 2013 05:11 GMT
#31
On November 07 2013 13:49 Emon_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 13:38 Advantageous wrote:
"The bitter truth is that MC is no longer a player you expect to tangle with the best his homeland has to offer."

I resent this quote as a MC fan (since prior to winning his first GSL against July)... Yes, I can read that it says "The bitter truth", but I still resent it... Would we ever say this about MVP? no. MMA? no. then why MC?


The fact of the matter is, MC is no longer a player you expect to tangle with the best his homeland has to offer


Woah, GJ cpt.obvious, i didnt deny that fact. learn to read pls.

Edit: Btw, GJ restating what the quote says. that's a form of plagiarism in higher institutions of academia. just bcuz u change a few words does not make the meaning any more (or less) different. gl passing ESL in college.
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
November 07 2013 05:21 GMT
#32
I'd love it if it happens, but this is a very strong player pool and IDK if MC is strong enough. I could see him making top 4 maybe.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
November 07 2013 05:23 GMT
#33
MCCCCCCCC
i honestly cant believe he's never done an MC hammer dance
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
Cyroch
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany45 Posts
November 07 2013 05:26 GMT
#34
On November 07 2013 14:11 Advantageous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 13:49 Emon_ wrote:
On November 07 2013 13:38 Advantageous wrote:
"The bitter truth is that MC is no longer a player you expect to tangle with the best his homeland has to offer."

I resent this quote as a MC fan (since prior to winning his first GSL against July)... Yes, I can read that it says "The bitter truth", but I still resent it... Would we ever say this about MVP? no. MMA? no. then why MC?


The fact of the matter is, MC is no longer a player you expect to tangle with the best his homeland has to offer


Woah, GJ cpt.obvious, i didnt deny that fact. learn to read pls.

Edit: Btw, GJ restating what the quote says. that's a form of plagiarism in higher institutions of academia. just bcuz u change a few words does not make the meaning any more (or less) different. gl passing ESL in college.



I am pretty sure it was a deliberate stylistic choice in this case (which btw is absolutely fine in non academic literature ).
The point of quotations is that one can use another's words to be insulting.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 05:45:09
November 07 2013 05:27 GMT
#35
Mini typo : enthuisiasm (just Ctrl-F for it).

It's the first article of this series that baffle me.

I agree that you may think MC as a prizemoney hunter. But if MC gets that much money, it's because he's actually still fucking good. You don't reach the finals of WCS EU twice in a row like that, even if you consider WCS EU to be the nest of old Code B players.

He's still fucking scary and still can take games off anyone. He's not the MC that had just won two GSL and was considered the best player in the world. But he is still a killer and he can still win tournaments.

For example, Seed and Sniper are GSL champions that are in the epilogue of their careers (well, I still root for Seed to comeback). MC is just in an extended slump.
[CCSRAM] BaoQuan
Profile Joined August 2013
United States96 Posts
November 07 2013 05:39 GMT
#36
Gogo MC! I think MC's All ins are much better than his macro games, so if his opponents practice against these all ins, he'll have some trouble
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
November 07 2013 05:40 GMT
#37
And if you are (P)SK_MC, you also see the hundreds of thousands of dollars you have won.

Hahahahaha. It makes me so happy for him.
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
November 07 2013 05:41 GMT
#38
Uh, MC placed second in 2 straight WCS Europe seasons, he's been tangling with and beating the best, he's the best protoss we've ever seen and is in no way at a low point in his career.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
November 07 2013 05:44 GMT
#39
Bitch please
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
November 07 2013 05:52 GMT
#40
lol at saying he cant swing with WCS koreans when he just beat Soulkey 2-0, might wanna re-write your whole angle !

MC MC ALWAYS MC !!! xD
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