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Source: Kespa
http://www.e-sports.or.kr/board.php?b_no=6&_module=data&_page=view&b_pid=9999663700
Bravo joins SKT T1, and the others (Free, Organ, Zero, Aria, and Hanbin) are released free (or maybe retiring).
Woongjin Waiver Result: BrAvO joins SKT T1
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egernya
Canada352 Posts
Source: Kespa http://www.e-sports.or.kr/board.php?b_no=6&_module=data&_page=view&b_pid=9999663700 Bravo joins SKT T1, and the others (Free, Organ, Zero, Aria, and Hanbin) are released free (or maybe retiring).
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
If they go back to BW, that would be huge though. | ||
digmouse
China6330 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3689 Posts
On October 15 2013 18:50 digmouse wrote: Free and ZerO retiring (in this case means "Afreeca") according to my Korean sources. Dunno about Piano, Aria and Hanbin. That seems wierd to me as he just made it into code a. Aria is in code a as well no? Ah well jangbang retired from a code s spot so I guess that doesn't mean much  | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430787 | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 15 2013 20:28 Gamegene wrote: wow taking bisu's place already? LOL bravo~~~ Classic i suppose was a replacement for Best then :D? | ||
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never_Nal
Costa Rica676 Posts
 . I think iloveoov is searching different players as SKT T1 coach :D | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On October 16 2013 02:00 a176 wrote: How could no one sign zero? It's worth noting that teams are not actually this stupid when it comes to recognising talent. If a player isn't getting picked up, there's a very good reason for it. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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SamirDuran
Philippines895 Posts
also Free, he should stream in Afreeca too. 5/6 dragons are now in SOSPA :p | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
On October 16 2013 02:02 TotalBiscuit wrote: It's worth noting that teams are not actually this stupid when it comes to recognising talent. If a player isn't getting picked up, there's a very good reason for it. So due to Totalbiscuit being Layton style cryptic here I would imagine that either TotalBiscuit knows what's happening with Zero, maybe something to do with Axiom or he's just keeping quiet and doing one of his "nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh, I know what's happening and you don't" style posts which I've gotten quite used to by this point. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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purakushi
United States3301 Posts
Seriously, though, GL. | ||
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
I'd love to see ZerO turning HT, tanks, dragoons and goliaths into broodlings again. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On October 16 2013 02:08 Qikz wrote: So due to Totalbiscuit being Layton style cryptic here I would imagine that either TotalBiscuit knows what's happening with Zero, maybe something to do with Axiom or he's just keeping quiet and doing one of his "nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh, I know what's happening and you don't" style posts which I've gotten quite used to by this point. Or he's just pointing out that "not signing a good player" does not equal "team is being stupid". Which should be rather obvious. There's countless reasons why that could be. The player retired. The player got a non-Kespa team. The player isn't that good after all. The player wants too much money. The player has an injury. The negotiations are not finished yet. etc. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On October 16 2013 02:08 Qikz wrote: So due to Totalbiscuit being Layton style cryptic here I would imagine that either TotalBiscuit knows what's happening with Zero, maybe something to do with Axiom or he's just keeping quiet and doing one of his "nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh, I know what's happening and you don't" style posts which I've gotten quite used to by this point. As we have learned in the past, transparency with information regarding others gets us crucified by the community. No, actually what I'm trying to do is inform the people that don't know, that teams don't just pick up players on the basis of past results and that there are many factors at play, most of which are not actually public information. ZerO is not getting ignored because he is some hidden gem and all the teams are just stupid and don't know what talent is. | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On October 16 2013 02:49 TotalBiscuit wrote: As we have learned in the past, transparency with information regarding others gets us crucified by the community. No, actually what I'm trying to do is inform the people that don't know, that teams don't just pick up players on the basis of past results and that there are many factors at play, most of which are not actually public information. ZerO is not getting ignored because he is some hidden gem and all the teams are just stupid and don't know what talent is. Ya, he is not a hidden gem. Everyone knows how good he is. I guess he just asks for too much money, which is to be expected from numerous times MSL and OSL semifinalist. Not worth it for the teams at this point though.. EDIT: I just hope free and ZerO will somehow find a new home, I would be very sad to see them retire. At that point I would probably really need to start watching BW... | ||
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Copymizer
Denmark2098 Posts
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On October 16 2013 03:10 Ammanas wrote: Ya, he is not a hidden gem. Everyone knows how good he is. I guess he just asks for too much money, which is to be expected from numerous times MSL and OSL semifinalist. Not worth it for the teams at this point though.. EDIT: I just hope free and ZerO will somehow find a new home, I would be very sad to see them retire. At that point I would probably really need to start watching BW... My guess would be that he's privately considering retirement so obviously teams won't sign him until he makes a decision one way or the other. | ||
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Josh_Video
Canada798 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 16 2013 03:10 Ammanas wrote: Ya, he is not a hidden gem. Everyone knows how good he is. I guess he just asks for too much money, which is to be expected from numerous times MSL and OSL semifinalist. Not worth it for the teams at this point though.. The point is that he might not be good enough. Or teams made offers and Zero wanted more money than they were willing to pay. Zero likely has options if he wants to keep playing. | ||
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Emon_
3925 Posts
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Gescom
Canada3505 Posts
On October 16 2013 03:10 Ammanas wrote: Ya, he is not a hidden gem. Everyone knows how good he is. I guess he just asks for too much money, which is to be expected from numerous times MSL and OSL semifinalist. Not worth it for the teams at this point though.. EDIT: I just hope free and ZerO will somehow find a new home, I would be very sad to see them retire. At that point I would probably really need to start watching BW... With regards to "MSL & OSL seminifinal...", BW skill obviously doesn't transfer over at 1:1, so bringing up BW results isn't really worth a whole lot. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
SKT dominating ! I wish zerO finds a good team,he is very talented. | ||
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UnKooL
Korea (South)1667 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On October 16 2013 03:24 Emon_ wrote: If Zero starts streaming BW I will lose it. Zero vs Bisu, or Zero vs. Sea - WHAT! we need a rematch. | ||
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
On October 15 2013 20:28 Gamegene wrote: wow taking bisu's place already? LOL bravo~~~ I became his biggest fan after he beat Bisu on Sniper Ridge, now Bisu is no more and honsin is on SKT haha | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Starcraft 2 is just so much fun to play and improve at and these players are progamers at heart. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On October 16 2013 10:35 Advantageous wrote: Goddamn SKT1 stocking up on dem protosses for LotV. bravo plays terran :o | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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DeathDyingDoomKiller
Canada91 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
never live it down. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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negativedge
4279 Posts
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GrimZeRo
United States113 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Firestorm
Canada341 Posts
On October 16 2013 02:02 TotalBiscuit wrote: It's worth noting that teams are not actually this stupid when it comes to recognising talent. If a player isn't getting picked up, there's a very good reason for it. YugiOh? | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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XxMulexX
Canada57 Posts
On October 16 2013 02:02 TotalBiscuit wrote: It's worth noting that teams are not actually this stupid when it comes to recognising talent. If a player isn't getting picked up, there's a very good reason for it. This argument comes up all the time in pro sports, and there is very little substance to it. There are countless examples of players coming up big after some team invests in them despite general disinterest from the rest of their league. Just take a look at the draft history of any year in any sport. | ||
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19299 Posts
Silly JZ, that's a tennis court. ![[image loading]](http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8771/julylolyu3.jpg) | ||
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Nerevar
547 Posts
On October 16 2013 12:55 Xiphos wrote: Bravo got picked up because of his youth and passion for SC2 unlike the aging Free and ZerO. Good choice by SKT. Although Bravo (aka hon_sin) seemed to be getting stronger at BW just before the switch. He seems to have a lot of potential which hopefully can be tapped by coach oov. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
So now Skts core line up would be: Fantasy Rain Classic Soo Bravo ???? Brown/paralyze I really dont know. Looks really good | ||
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negativedge
4279 Posts
On October 16 2013 13:47 GumBa wrote: Will be looking forward to what SKTT1 and oov can get out of Bravo he seemed solid in pl and was also code a for a while iirc? He seems to have potential. So now Skts core line up would be: Fantasy Rain Classic Soo Bravo ???? Brown/paralyze I really dont know. Looks really good missing a little soul in that list | ||
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traceurling
United States1240 Posts
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jjwhg
United States155 Posts
On October 16 2013 05:49 Gamegene wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PC3TOTMJCM we need a rematch. Yes, please! | ||
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FoShao
United States256 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
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jackslater
Russian Federation604 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Holy shit Partng! So long since hes joinded and I still dont connect SKT with Parting -.- Yeah well the lineup is even better | ||
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egernya
Canada352 Posts
On October 16 2013 14:51 Zenbrez wrote: Very lightly related since this is partly about SKT; so is Boxer no longer involved in the sc2 scene at all anymore? As it was known, Boxer is having a break because of his injury. Possibilities always exist, but not for a while. | ||
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Mahanaim
Korea (South)1002 Posts
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
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SoFrOsTy
United States525 Posts
On October 15 2013 18:39 Zerg.Zilla wrote: Now if only Zero could find a team... This. Zero already showed pretty great play. With a little more time and some hardwork, he can seriously be one of the greats. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On October 16 2013 15:21 Mahanaim wrote: The Invisible Hand is still working its way out. Wonder when will it stop. Leave Adam Smith alone | ||
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Hadronsbecrazy
United Kingdom551 Posts
To be fair, IM has a pretty damn impressive roster too | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 16 2013 21:44 renaissanceMAN wrote: Woongjin screwed up here imo. Huh? | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
On October 16 2013 21:41 Hadronsbecrazy wrote: Man, SKT is stacked like no ones business from playerss to coaches, they have BoXeR , iloveoov, rain, PartinG , Fantasy now BravO , dayum they better win proleague . To be fair, IM has a pretty damn impressive roster too They do, but they don't have Best and Bisu anymore T_T | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 16 2013 23:23 Qikz wrote: They do, but they don't have Best and Bisu anymore T_T They were not too relevant in SC2 tbh. | ||
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
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Savant
United States379 Posts
On October 16 2013 09:43 Pandain wrote: I see maybe one Woonjin player retiring to be honest. Starcraft 2 is just so much fun to play and improve at and these players are progamers at heart. That's a good one. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
On October 16 2013 23:24 lolfail9001 wrote: They were not too relevant in SC2 tbh. Best was doing alright in Proleague and Bisu was finally getting better. I've also been an SKT fan for a very long time so they meant alot to me as a fan ;_; | ||
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ctbower5
United States22 Posts
Also yet another thread of "zomfg I hope SC2 dies so Brood War can come back" .... [sigh] | ||
sM.Zik
Canada2550 Posts
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