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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
http://en.intelextrememasters.com/news/new-york-to-boast-star-studded-casters-hosts-and-observers/ Cast will be done by Shaun "Apollo" Clark, James "Kaelaris" Carrol, Yoan "ToD" Merlo and Nathan "Nathanias" Fabrikant Hosted by Paul "ReDeYe" Chaloner and Sue "Smix" Lee Games observed by Phil "InFeZa" Bertino 
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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Pyloss
Germany1515 Posts
and yeah, RedEye at a non wcs tournament, good good. | ||
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Jade
Poland289 Posts
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RaZorwire
Sweden718 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
For cool line-up. | ||
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Darthsanta13
United States564 Posts
On October 01 2013 01:57 NoGasfOu wrote: It's sad that the foreign scene has turned into a personality contest. Really? Apollo, Kaelaris, Tod and Redeye and I assume Infeza all work for ESL, Smix is a great translator and Nathanias is one of the few new casters on the scene who you could say got big on the basis of talent and hard work alone. Who do you think should be replaced, and by who? | ||
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r1flEx
Belgium256 Posts
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movac
Canada494 Posts
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SChlafmann
France725 Posts
This IEM is going better and better... | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
Could someone refresh my memory as to what InFeZa has observed before? | ||
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On October 01 2013 02:56 y0su wrote: Solid line up - glad to see Nate get more big events. Could someone refresh my memory as to what InFeZa has observed before? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:InFeZa | ||
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Pirfiktshon
United States1072 Posts
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Phaenoman
568 Posts
On October 01 2013 02:21 r1flEx wrote: give us idra in stead of tod! Why? Tod >> Idra. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
On October 01 2013 03:25 Pandemona wrote: Nothing wrong with the casting line up but i thought they would of used a few more NA specialists as they are in America. Incontrol? IdrA? Bitter? Rotterdam, all good people, instead of bringing there whole team over. Oh well, should be fucking sick tourney Just guessing, but they couldnt bring the NASL guys over because the ro16 of WCS AM starts the day after IEM. Love the casting lineup, Nathanias+Apollo and Kaelaris+ToD are great casting dous. | ||
Waxangel
United States33492 Posts
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Guileful
Kazakhstan137 Posts
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emanresU
Germany393 Posts
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FetusThrower
United States50 Posts
On October 01 2013 02:14 Darthsanta13 wrote: Really? Apollo, Kaelaris, Tod and Redeye and I assume Infeza all work for ESL, Smix is a great translator and Nathanias is one of the few new casters on the scene who you could say got big on the basis of talent and hard work alone. Who do you think should be replaced, and by who? Replace ToD with Artosis, or as someone else mentioned.. IDRA! But really. I'm excited. Still hoping that I can get a ticket for it + a trip there before I'm unable to.. It's the first tournament relatively close to me that I could attend. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On October 01 2013 01:57 NoGasfOu wrote: It's sad that the foreign scene has turned into a personality contest. your comment makes little sense D: | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Happy for nathanias. | ||
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5c0rp10n
Germany342 Posts
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pNRG
United States333 Posts
On October 01 2013 03:31 Waxangel wrote: I'll try to take carmac underneath the bridge where axslav and axeltoss are living Thank all that is good that axeltoss isn't casting. I'll actually be able to unmute the stream! | ||
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Kokokoz
France147 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33492 Posts
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Nine Gates
Finland198 Posts
On October 01 2013 03:41 FetusThrower wrote: Idra is like the prime example of personality mattering more than prowess in the game.Replace ToD with Artosis, or as someone else mentioned.. IDRA! But really. I'm excited. Still hoping that I can get a ticket for it + a trip there before I'm unable to.. It's the first tournament relatively close to me that I could attend. | ||
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n0ah
United States250 Posts
 But anyways, Nathanias is a boss caster with an equally boss beard. And I do loves me some Apollo and Kaelaris though... <3 | ||
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LamaMitHut
Germany187 Posts
http://www.esportsearnings.com/games/8/warcraft_iii http://www.esportsearnings.com/games/1/starcraft_ii | ||
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claybones
United States244 Posts
On October 01 2013 04:04 Nine Gates wrote: Idra is like the prime example of personality mattering more than prowess in the game. Honestly I can't help but disagree, I have thoroughly enjoyed the few times I've seen Idra commentate. I don't feel as though his publicized personality is reflected, just his in-depth knowledge of the game. | ||
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
Im getting a bit tired of apollo casting every single tournament as well, even though hes a very good caster. I guess people in general like Kaelaris more than me, all I hear out of his mouth is either truisms or false information but I guess thats just me. Nathanias and ToD I like. Hope this tourny goes well for foreigners! | ||
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Aelendis
Belgium892 Posts
On October 01 2013 04:12 Snusmumriken wrote: Kaelaris? :/ Im getting a bit tired of apollo casting every single tournament as well, even though hes a very good caster. I guess people in general like Kaelaris more than me, all I hear out of his mouth is either truisms or false information but I guess thats just me. Nathanias and ToD I like. Hope this tourny goes well for foreigners! That's not just you... | ||
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Teodice
Sweden641 Posts
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Kokokoz
France147 Posts
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Bizeheryer
Germany307 Posts
More like this. Tod >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Idra | ||
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MarcusWC
Canada55 Posts
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Comadevil
Germany214 Posts
On October 01 2013 03:42 KalWarkov wrote: while i really like the WCS EU Crew, i wouldve hoped for Bitterdam and Axeltoss+Axslav to cast. Poor guys have so little events to do and yet seem to be so eager to work - especially the MLG combo :/ You can be sure that Axslav+Axeltoss will cast on MLG stream. They already casted the qualifier and the last IEM event | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
Whatevs for Apollo and InDeZa. Boo for Kaelaris and Nathanias. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
Maybe our fellow netizen feels that casters and crew gets more attention than needed, that we could do without announcements like these and just focus on the games and the ones who are playing them. | ||
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Phaenoman
568 Posts
On October 01 2013 04:12 Snusmumriken wrote: Kaelaris? :/ Im getting a bit tired of apollo casting every single tournament as well, even though hes a very good caster. I guess people in general like Kaelaris more than me, all I hear out of his mouth is either truisms or false information but I guess thats just me. Nathanias and ToD I like. Hope this tourny goes well for foreigners! I don't like Kaelaris either. Not at all. Especially not when he "analyses" a match or says obvious things. I don't even think he is funny or anything else that would make a caster entertaining... but that's my opinion... | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
On October 01 2013 04:03 Waxangel wrote: all these Europeans taking American jobs, boycott IEM New York! + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://the-libertarian.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/They-Took-Our-Jobs.png) | ||
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oneill12
Romania1222 Posts
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qiza
Germany37 Posts
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On October 01 2013 02:10 RaZorwire wrote: So WCS EU + Nathanias? Sounds good, the Nathanias + Apollo combo worked really well at Dreamhack. + Smix! | ||
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TJ31
630 Posts
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Stolker
United States96 Posts
On October 01 2013 02:14 Darthsanta13 wrote: Really? Apollo, Kaelaris, Tod and Redeye and I assume Infeza all work for ESL, Smix is a great translator and Nathanias is one of the few new casters on the scene who you could say got big on the basis of talent and hard work alone. Who do you think should be replaced, and by who? I would suggesst Kaelaris, with all respect, with lets say Rotterdam or Tastosis | ||
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Stolker
United States96 Posts
On October 01 2013 06:30 TJ31 wrote: As long as Apollo is there it'll be good. Would love to see Khaldor+Idra casting though. I'm not even Idra's fan, never was, but their casting during Asus ROG was amazing. true, I actually enjoyed Idra's casting. | ||
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Morphage
France492 Posts
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AySz88
United States83 Posts
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
It does make sense. If foreign players are good enough, we wouldn't see a thread of caster and personality popping up for every tournament. Example: Bomber wins season 2 final, he gets one thread on reddit while Artosis gets 5 threads about his wrong prediction about Bomber. Innovation wins season 1 final, he gets 1 thread while Artosis gets 5 threads. Threads like these give people a thought that you could stay relevant in the sc2 scene by not winning a single sc2 game. It's thread like this that directs attention from foreign pros to foreign personality. I don't know of any other type of competition in which a group of casters/personalities is more important than the players and the competition. This is the direct result of one scene trying to stay relevant. It's sad because when I think of foreign competition, I should think about foreign players, not foreign personality. The competition should be the center of attention, just like in any sport. | ||
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Pontius Pirate
United States1557 Posts
On October 01 2013 01:57 NoGasfOu wrote: It's sad that the foreign scene has turned into a personality contest. Popular hosts are a big deal for live events. Having experienced stage performers who have legions of established fans really does a lot to make for a successful live event. I fully agree that people focus too much on the individuals who play the game, rather than the games themselves, but when it comes to practical execution of a complex hosting job, I agree with most event's decision to go with the tried-and-true hosts and casters. | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
They should be allowed to hire their own staff to run their own premier tournaments... At the same time, I don't think it's the best. DreamHack is always going to have an unfair advantage because they are a huge and massively respected event that is independently run, and so they have the whole world to pull talents from. IEM is part of ESL, so they have a team to work with and they have dedicated staff to make sure they respect and provide for. Although I don't think this lineup is the best, I do think it's a solid lineup and will provide great entertainment. Looking forward to this! On October 01 2013 08:17 NoGasfOu wrote: It does make sense. If foreign players are good enough, we wouldn't see a thread of caster and personality popping up for every tournament. Example: Bomber wins season 2 final, he gets one thread on reddit while Artosis gets 5 threads about his wrong prediction about Bomber. Innovation wins season 1 final, he gets 1 thread while Artosis gets 5 threads. Threads like these give people a thought that you could stay relevant in the sc2 scene by not winning a single sc2 game. It's thread like this that directs attention from foreign pros to foreign personality. I don't know of any other type of competition in which a group of casters/personalities is more important than the players and the competition. This is the direct result of one scene trying to stay relevant. It's sad because when I think of foreign competition, I should think about foreign players, not foreign personality. The competition should be the center of attention, just like in any sport. Are you shitting me? Bomber wins season 2 final, so every major eSports media organization covers the story with official news. Artosis gets 5 random user threads about his wrong prediction about Bomber.. You're really going to complain about that? Open your eyes plz. Artosis making a wrong statement is a big inside joke to the whole community, so it's obvious that the community will laugh and chat about it. Bomber winning a WCS event is an important time in SC2 history, and thus everybody who covers media will want to provide a story about it. There's a difference....... It's important for the event's popularity to tell the world that they have world renowned personalities. They put together their official lineup and finalized contracts, so they provided that information in order to get the hype train running. Later they'll announce the final player list, and people will go crazy for it (so they, and all of us, hope). This is all common stuff here, stop trying to create drama. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8643 Posts
Also the switcharoo to keep things interesting is appreciated, not always Arpollo(though they work great together of course) to give others also a chance. | ||
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
Also <3 to Kaelaris.  Smix talks a bit too much herself during the interviews, but she's a good translator and we will have plenty of Koreans winning, as always. | ||
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WetSocks
United States953 Posts
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
On October 01 2013 04:12 Snusmumriken wrote: Kaelaris? :/ Im getting a bit tired of apollo casting every single tournament as well, even though hes a very good caster. I guess people in general like Kaelaris more than me, all I hear out of his mouth is either truisms or false information but I guess thats just me. Nathanias and ToD I like. Hope this tourny goes well for foreigners! I used to like Kaelaris, but I personally don't like his current style. I don't mind a play-by-play caster like Husky, but I don't think he should be the one analyzing games (that's Apollo's forte). His enthusiasm is perfect for play-by-play and needs to remain that way. Even Tasteless, who is nowhere near Artosis's level, is more careful with his analysis by translating some of what is going for the more casual audience. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Cyroch
Germany45 Posts
I don't know of any other type of competition in which a group of casters/personalities is more important than the players and the competition. Only kind of example that come to mind for me would be to some extent Michael Buffer for Boxing. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On October 01 2013 02:14 Darthsanta13 wrote: Really? Apollo, Kaelaris, Tod and Redeye and I assume Infeza all work for ESL, Smix is a great translator and Nathanias is one of the few new casters on the scene who you could say got big on the basis of talent and hard work alone. Who do you think should be replaced, and by who? I agree somewhat, but I think if you look closely most of the casters got to where they are today through both talent and hard work. Well, the ones that aren't former pro players - and even then you can argue that took a lot of work to get to as well. The thing is, Nathanias has put in a lot of hard work recently, whereas the other guys put in a lot of hard work a couple years ago. Also, am I the only one that thinks Nathanias sounds vaguely like Mr. Bitter while looking a bit more like Kevin Knocke? + Show Spoiler + Also, I'm sad we don't see Kevin Knocke cast more. + Show Spoiler + I'm not worried about the twin Axes of MLG. They have a nice office in a great city and lots of "water". They should be okay. Sundance will take good care of them, won't he? | ||
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
Edit: I miss Kevin Knocke too. | ||
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