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WCS EU - Ro8 Preview (Season II)

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WCS EU - Ro8 Preview (Season II)

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August 10th, 2013 07:40 GMT
2013 WCS Europe
Modified banner by Smittmeister

Quarter-Finals Preview
Six Protoss, One Zerg, One Terran


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Quarter-finals Preview

WCS Europe Season II Finals Weekend

It's time for the final leg of the tournament. Eight out of the original thirty-two contestants remain, and they will battle it out over the next two days for the title of European champion.

Countdown:

The first step will be the quarter-final matches that will begin at 12:00 GMT (+00:00) August 10th, with the semi-finals and grand finals to be played on August 11th. TeamLiquid takes a look ahead at to the quarter-final matches.


Quarter-Final One: MMA vs. HasuObs

by Waxangel

(T)Acer.MMA and (P)mouz.HasuObs hail from two different continents, but their stories are curiously similar. Both players are veterans of several years, with their experience in progaming going beyond StarCraft II. Both players can call 2011 their best in pro-gaming, a year where MMA won three major championships, while HasuObs took fourth in TSL3 and IEM Guangzhou. They fell into mediocrity in 2012 under the shadow of BL-Infestor, but HotS has revitalized their careers. Reaching the round of eight in this season WCS Europe is already the best international tournament result they have attained in a very long time. Alas, only one of them can continue their road to redemption and move onto the semi-finals.

HasuObs has more to gain with a win here. Despite being a household name in the European scene, a top player in Germany, and a regular at every European tournament, he still doesn't have that premier tournament title all pro-gamers yearn. At the very least, a top four finish would already match his career best finish at major internationals, and it would be his most impressive run since TSL3. Back then, he defeated the legendary Boxer to earn his semi-final berth, and this time around he is facing Boxer's disinherited heir.

MMA's has less to gain and more to lose, as winning the championship is almost a bare minimum for people to consider his revival to be legitimate. That's the shadow of having once been the best player in the world, and people will always compare MMA's current form to his glory days when he was taking championships left and right.

The match seems to lean slightly in HasuObs' favor. MMA's return to form in is 2013 based on the same match-ups he won championships with in 2011: his TvZ and TvT. In contrast, his TvP is then and now, a weakness in his game. He admitted as much in a post Ro16 interview with ThisIsGame (Korean), talking about his surprisingly easy 0 - 2 loss to NaNiwa.

On the other hand, HasuObs' PvT has traditionally been his best match-up, and you could argue that it is still his best now, at least on a statistical basis (check out his recent record on Aligulac.com). He might be a bit over-stereotyped as a passive, deathball oriented player, but it's true that he plays that kind of PvT very well. He also has his own bag of tricks to use as well, and he played against type in his 2 - 1 win over Mvp, going for a creative forge & 5-gate all-in in one game, and a two base storm rush in another.

MMA's method of overcoming his PvT weakness in 2011 was to take risks, and I don't think that will change much in 2013. So expect greedy triple orbitals, hidden bases, tech rushes, SCV-pull all-ins, and anything BUT safe, middle of the road play (think Bomber in his OSL run). Whether or not HasuObs wants to play long games or not, it will be important to sniff out what kind of tricks MMA is up to early and react accordingly.

With too little time to prepare between rounds, I'll take HasuObs to win this match-up. If MMA had been in Korea, then maybe he could have hashed some gameplan together with his Axiom friends in the period of a few days, but having to prepare in Germany gives HasuObs the advantage even in that regard.

Prediction: HasuObs 3 - 2 MMA

Quarter-Final Two: Welmu vs. MC

by stuchiu

From the very beginning, PvP has always had a reputation as the coin-flip matchup. Players must often commit to a build before they can ever scout their opponent and must hope that their build counters or at least breaks even with their opponents. Of course, much of this reputation was established during the dark ages of PvP before 4-gate was nerfed multiple times, cannon rushes were plentiful, and InCa's DTs still roamed the earth (and who knows, they may still roam unseen).

Through many patches and thousands upon thousands of games, the match-up has become much more skilled based, with all-around "safe" builds being developed, defensive micro improving by leaps and bounds, and the MSC being introduced to the game. Nowadays, ignoring the occasional proxy double gates, PvP has become much less punishing and has become a match where expands have become the norm rather than an abominable aberration. Even so, no one should dare to come out and say “PvP is all skill” in a brazen way, lest he suffer the fate of Oz (who was only freed from his PvP curse once Own3d went belly-up and the video of the interview was destroyed).

This match will be a battle between old and new masters of match-up, between the first King of PvP in (P)SK_MC and the latest King of Finland, (P)NrS.Welmu. MC is from the first age of PvP where everyone believed that no one could be consistent in a matchup, but it turned out that MC was the only one who had a weighted coin. No player has hit a 90% PvP winrate except during that era, and it was achieved by the first Protoss hope, MC.

For MC, as it is for many old Koreans, this is about redemption. Once a favorite to win every tournament he entered, MC has become an aging beast. There are cracks in his play. He is no longer at the forefront of his race. His attacks have become a less fierce, his all-ins less inspired. While still a threat to anyone, he has yet to show the ability to just WILL himself to wins that he once possessed in WoL. For MC, a player who had to sit on the sidelines and train with Mvp while Mvp took the crown of Europe, this is the best chance to get back into the limelight since the HotS release. For MC, a victory here will be a resounding announcement to the world that his era hasn’t ended yet.

If MC represents a titan of the old age, then Welmu is at the vanguard of the youth movement. A young player from Finland, his career was mostly one of being an online monster while remaining on the fringes of the main tournaments in Europe. Since 2013 however, he has come into his own, beginning as he won the crown of Finland at Assembly Winter. He was one of the few players to always reach the top 16 in every qualifier for Premier league in WCS EU. While he couldn't make it into the Premier League for season one, he quickly qualified through the Challenger league and then into WCS EU season 2. He has now topped both of his ro32 and ro16 groups.

This is a clash of generations. Can the veteran Korean use his superior experience to trick and defeat the young rising star. Or will Welmu end MC’s hopes to once more hit the podium on the world stage?

Prediction: Welmu 3 - 2 MC

Quarter-Final Three: NaNiwa vs. Duckdeok

by stuchiu

With Stephano retiring, (P)Alliance.NaNiwa has been chosen as the de-facto heir to the European crownd. In many ways, the title is deserved, as though there are many great players in contention for the throne, none have had the results of Naniwa, none have shown the same quality of play, and none have fought quite so hard both inside and outside the game to get there.

If you look at Naniwa’s career as a whole, he has both reached the depths of the abyss and nearly touched the heights of heaven. Through all of the drama and time in exile, one thing has shone through above all: Naniwa is someone who is obsessed with becoming a better player above all. That obsession has often had Naniwa play the part of villain as he didn't care for the public relations required of a highly visible competitor, and his inability to come to to terms with the fact that no team would pay him just to be a good player cost him several opportunities.

But after the dissolution of his previous team, Quantic, and several months of teamlessness, Naniwa has slowly and surely rebuilt his public image. His redemption arc even led him to land team Alliance (a team Sortof like EG), and his days of making the forums burst into flame wars have ended (for the most part). He even seems to have adopted more Korean mannerisms, staying humble and speaking of hie desire to show good games to his fans. And while the old Naniwa bursts out of him every once in awhile, Naniwa has finally become the champion the foreign scene wants to support, not the one they are forced to get behind because of his undeniable skill.

While Naniwa has lived long enough as a villain to become a hero, (P)MVP.duckdeok has changed from an unknown Korean into the bad guy of the tournament. Young in age but still one of the oldest GSL veterans, he spent most of his career as a fringe Code A player who once hit Code S before falling out entirely. Similarly, he dominated his group stage in NASL Season 4 before dropping out right before the main lan to HerO. Because of this anonymity Duckdeok, played the part of the ubiquitous, faceless Korean when he applied for WCS Europe. So it was with raucous joy that Europe cheered and yelled EU HOLDS!!! after duckdeok failed time and time again in the first qualifiers. Even in his first challenger appearance he fell in the first round and barely made it into Premier over Krass.

So going into this season of WCS EU, no one expected much of anything from duckdeok. He was just a Korean invader who wasn’t beloved like MC or Mvp or had been adopted like ForGG or Stardust. Was it any surprise that in such a situation, Duckdeok turned to the dark arts? Following in the footsteps of teammate Sniper, he learned the greatest victory is the victory over the fan favorite, and the greatest prize is the gallons of tears from thousands of fans. Using all-in after all-in Duckdeok eliminated favorites DIMAGA, Dayshi, Stephano and Lucifron as the fans and casters all watched dumbfounded at Duckdeok’s new found strength. Will the new evil claim another victim or will Naniwa defend and become Europe’s new king?

Prediction: Naniwa 3 - 1 Duckdeok

Quarter-Final Four: VortiX vs. Grubby

by Waxangel

After losing the spotlight to his brother Lucifron for most of HotS, attention is finally shifting back to (Z)mouz.VortiX in Season II of WCS Europe. Without doing anything especially notable, VortiX has racked up a very nice string of results in both online and live tournaments (refer again to our friend Aligulac for a detailed look), and he heads into the final eight as an under-the-radar candidate to take it all. His PvZ has looked particularly great, defeating MC, RuNa, MaNa, and even San in recent matches. Possessing strong ZvZ as well, a ZvT against MMA—who is terrifying against Zerg—is probably the only match-up he would really hate to draw in the tournament. As the #2 foreigner for much of the late-WoL period, VortiX might finally ascend to the throne now that Stephano is gone.

All of this is bad news for (P)Grubby, who comes into the Ro8 after an emotional victory over Mvp. It's hard not to cheer for Grubby to win the entire tournament after that, he still has three more opponents to beat if he wants to claim the first major title of his SC2 career. We've called Grubby good-but-not-great several times in the past, and each major tournament sees us (and his legion of fans) waiting to see if he can take another step forward. This Protoss-heavy tournament could be his best chance at success since IEM Singapore, but to play PvP he has to overcome the formidable challenge of VortiX first.

VortiX's style is a mixture of predictable and unpredictable. While you can expect him to go hydra-roach-viper in a 'standard' game, he is also very fond of mixing it up with early aggression or all-ins. This willingness to mix up his strategies has been a hallmark of VortiX's play even at the apex of broodlord-infestor, where he was just as capable of winning games early as he was late. Grubby has experienced this first hand in the tournament, in a loss to VortiX in the Ro32 where the Spanish Zerg gave him three different looks: hydra-roach-infestor into ultralisks late game (VortiX won), baneling bust (Grubby won), and mass roach-ling early (VortiX won).

Meanwhile, it's hard to put a finger on Grubby's PvZ. He's opened gateway first, looked for cannon rushes, gone for zealot-phoenix aggression, taken fast thirds, gone for sentry-drop harass—basically he's tried most of the things Protoss can do. One thing that we that we have conspicuously seen him not do is go for fast sky transitions, something we see from certain Korean players and notably NaNiwa in Europe. Grubby is capable of a wide variety of strats, and some games may just come down to one player taking a build order advantage when both players go for early aggression.

Adding everything up, I think VortiX will come out on top. His recent wins against players like MaNa and MC were impressive, whereas Grubby didn't look the best against Ret (even though he won) or DRG. Throw in VortiX's 2 - 1 victory against Grubby already in WCS, and I have to go with the Spaniard.

Prediction: VortiX 3 - 1 Grubby


More WCS Europe Season 2 Coverage

Aug 9 – Welmu and Duckdeok advance to Ro8 as Stephano plays his retirement matches.
Aug 8 – HasuObs and Grubby shock Mvp in Round of eight opener group.
July 18 – Russian duo of TitaN and Happy round out Ro16 by earning final two spots
July 17 – Terrans ForGG and Bunny eliminated as VortiX and Grubby move on
July 11 – NaNiwa and Lucifron top group F, Bly and uzer fall to Challenger
July 10 – Welmu takes first place in group E, upsetting Ret, BabyKnight, and ThorZaIN


Writers: Waxangel and stuchiu
Graphics: shiroiusagi, Smittmeister
Banner photo: ESL
Editor: Waxangel.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33513 Posts
August 10 2013 07:46 GMT
#2
messing with putting SC2 news in SC2 general forum this week D:
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 10 2013 07:54 GMT
#3
I still think MMA can prepare hard for Hasu and take it 3-1
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 10 2013 07:54 GMT
#4
WELMU WELMU WCS EU CHAMPION
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
August 10 2013 07:54 GMT
#5
Rofl the picture at the top of the thread...

Go MMA, kill those A-clickers!
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
August 10 2013 07:55 GMT
#6
GOOOOOOOOOO GRUBBY!!!!!
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
August 10 2013 07:57 GMT
#7
This shall be the month of Brotosses!

A Toss champ in all 3 regions!
Someone call down the Thunder?
elanobissen
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark244 Posts
August 10 2013 07:58 GMT
#8
Love news in the general section! Thanks
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 10 2013 08:20 GMT
#9
Gogo Grubby !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
August 10 2013 08:45 GMT
#10
haha banner made me smile, what a great bunch of matchs, want to see a mma vs nani finals!

MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Zaxon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium209 Posts
August 10 2013 08:52 GMT
#11
On August 10 2013 16:54 HammerKick wrote:
Rofl the picture at the top of the thread...

Go MMA, kill those A-clickers!

Not funny bro... keep you balance whining out of here

InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
August 10 2013 09:19 GMT
#12
love every word of the article and the banner, great job as always !!
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
August 10 2013 10:53 GMT
#13
Why is Grubby the only one whose name isn't TLPD linked?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33513 Posts
August 10 2013 10:56 GMT
#14
On August 10 2013 19:53 Raelcun wrote:
Why is Grubby the only one whose name isn't TLPD linked?


cuz typo
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 10 2013 10:59 GMT
#15
Thanks for the preview! gogo mma,naniwa,grubby, welmu.
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MidnightZL
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden203 Posts
August 10 2013 11:02 GMT
#16
Scary picture ;P Really boring with only protoss tho, even if i do like protoss,
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
August 10 2013 11:12 GMT
#17
These previews are always such a great read! Many thanks for taking the time to write them!

I'd love to see Welmu and Naniwa in the final. The rivalry between the countries is great in other sports, and that gives the matches an extra dimension, at least if you are from Sweden or Finland.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
August 10 2013 11:19 GMT
#18
Gruuuubbbbby.
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 10 2013 11:22 GMT
#19
On August 10 2013 20:12 BaneRiders wrote:
These previews are always such a great read! Many thanks for taking the time to write them!

I'd love to see Welmu and Naniwa in the final. The rivalry between the countries is great in other sports, and that gives the matches an extra dimension, at least if you are from Sweden or Finland.

+1
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 10 2013 11:37 GMT
#20
MC wins EU! Somehow, someway
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 10 2013 11:38 GMT
#21
FINAAAAAALEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 11:49:07
August 10 2013 11:43 GMT
#22
Vortix will take this one.. Hope he avenges his brother on the way though..

But sad cause I dislike the draw a lot.. My personal favorites from the leftover are MMA, Hasu, Vortix and Grubby.. Which are all gonna kill each other in the first draw..
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 10 2013 11:43 GMT
#23
MMA gonna slay some nerds yo
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
BoggieMan
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
520 Posts
August 10 2013 11:43 GMT
#24
Wheres your sad zealot now!
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 11:47:16
August 10 2013 11:46 GMT
#25
I'm hoping for MMA to win this and complete the redemption arc, but practically I don't think he can do it, even at the height of his dominance TvP was still his weakest MU. His best bet is to sell his soul (or his wrists) to Mvp for some game winning advice and series planning, then he can win WCS EU, with Mvp winning Blizzcon later this year thanks to his new found health!
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sGLA
Profile Joined March 2013
35 Posts
August 10 2013 11:55 GMT
#26
awesome pic!!!! great work GOGO Vortix
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 18:09:43
August 10 2013 17:08 GMT
#27
Lol, it looks like its going to be the complete opposite of your predictions
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
August 10 2013 17:26 GMT
#28
Best.
Predictions.
Ever.
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
August 10 2013 17:26 GMT
#29
0/4 LOL
Nice writeup tho
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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
August 10 2013 17:33 GMT
#30
Good predictions haha.

So happy grubby won!
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
August 10 2013 17:34 GMT
#31
Great predictions lol
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
August 10 2013 17:36 GMT
#32
These predictions lol.
emPER12
Profile Joined June 2011
62 Posts
August 10 2013 17:39 GMT
#33
Can you fire the guy of the predictions?...
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 10 2013 17:40 GMT
#34
all the predictions are so wrong
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Bulgaria281 Posts
August 10 2013 17:44 GMT
#35
OP should definitely stay away from betting sites.

Thought one could argue that the matches could have gone either way.... none of them were close series with a 3:2 result.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 17:46:08
August 10 2013 17:45 GMT
#36
some day faith in foreigners will be rewarded

today is not that day, but we must keep hope

I do have to say wtf vortix ;o
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 10 2013 17:46 GMT
#37
Can you guys start predicting the stock market? I want to give short selling a try.
Ecstatic
Profile Joined January 2011
United States160 Posts
August 10 2013 17:49 GMT
#38
The general rule of never predicting foreigners over koreans succeeds once again!
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 17:52:55
August 10 2013 17:51 GMT
#39
I laughed while coughing when the banner came out and managed to make the most disgusting sound. Well played banner-man.


Also, PvP. I don't think I'll be watching xD WCS

AM looks much more interesting because there are two players I really like in there, though I don't liek the casters all that much, unless Day9 is with them. Day9+anyone is really good. Day9 should really cast a game with like a 10 year old girl, just to prove my point.


Edit: Naniwa vs duckduck, now that's a series i'm going to watch actually x)
maru lover forever
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
August 10 2013 17:55 GMT
#40
On August 11 2013 02:51 Incognoto wrote:
I laughed while coughing when the banner came out and managed to make the most disgusting sound. Well played banner-man.


Also, PvP. I don't think I'll be watching xD WCS

AM looks much more interesting because there are two players I really like in there, though I don't liek the casters all that much, unless Day9 is with them. Day9+anyone is really good. Day9 should really cast a game with like a 10 year old girl, just to prove my point.


Edit: Naniwa vs duckduck, now that's a series i'm going to watch actually x)


just a headsup, games are already finished, so watch out if you want to enjoy them spoiler free.
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 10 2013 18:15 GMT
#41
At times i curse myself for not voting according to these previews, today i am glad i always follow my own "feeling".
Great writeup, but ooh boy that's a slapdown We are all human after all huh.
ineq
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden376 Posts
August 10 2013 18:29 GMT
#42
all wrong, i like it
HerO - iNcontroL - DeMusliM - TaeJa - JaeDong
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
August 10 2013 18:33 GMT
#43
Why is this thread "Season II" and the america thread "Season 2" ?

I feel like I have OCD @__@
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
August 10 2013 18:40 GMT
#44
You got everything wrong, well played
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
August 11 2013 08:33 GMT
#45
Worth predictions 2013 ;D lol
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