I wouldn't say best, but they certainly kept me watching. Idra did well for his first official live event as a caster. I hope he doesn't let all the fanboyism go to his head, there's always room for improvement

A times the finals were not as exciting as some of the other games, but I don't think that was really the fault of the casters.

Gr33n

Bahamas113 Posts

August 04 2013 04:44 GMT

#62

On August 04 2013 13:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
I wasn't a huge fan of the duo to be honest.

Idra I think needs to get more comfortable with the ebb and flow of a game I felt like he stumbled over himself a lot which I think is something he'll get better at as he does more gigs like this. On the plus side though, his analysis of builds and timings was very sharp.

I felt Khaldor at times could also be a little dominating in the casts mostly because he could so easily talk over Idra. A few times I heard him cut Greg off mid sentence while he was analyzing something which is something he tends to do with Wolf except Wolf just keeps talking anyway I guess because he's comfortable with the interjections. That kind of thing gets fixed through increased experience with your co-caster.

I wouldn't even be commenting at all if they weren't receiving such an unusual amount of praise both here and on Reddit. I just don't see it warranted but that's just me. They weren't bad but they didn't strike me as the holy grail of casting duos either.

its a step in the right direction where as tasteless wolf and others are imo steps in the wrong direction. we need professionals not children.

BoZiffer

United States1841 Posts

August 04 2013 04:47 GMT

#63

I like Idra casting. But not prepared to call him + anybody the best. For me, ToD plus anybody is must watch. Idra + anybody is rapidly joining that class.

Hryul

Austria2609 Posts

August 04 2013 04:49 GMT

#64

I was never a fan of Idra as a player because I felt he wasn't mentally stable enough. But his long gaming career def. pays off as a caster. His analysis was sharp and clear. Together with Khaldor, who is very passionate about the game (like casting on his free day!) they make a great duo.
Really hoping to see more of them.

Rhaegal

United States678 Posts

August 04 2013 04:53 GMT

#65

I agree. Idra is so good. He's knowledgeable, level headed, and doesn't mindlessly yell trying to convince the viewers to get "hype" like so many other casters do. Khaldor is funny, and makes jokes a lot of other casters are too timid to make, and he also has a pleasant voice.

Also, they aren't afraid to point out when a player is doing something wrong.

Asus Rog was awesome!

edgeOut

United States945 Posts

August 04 2013 04:56 GMT

#66

With Idra there, replacing Khaldor with anybody else would be better.

bo1b

Australia12814 Posts

August 04 2013 04:57 GMT

#67

On August 04 2013 13:44 Gr33n wrote:

Show nested quote +

its a step in the right direction where as tasteless wolf and others are imo steps in the wrong direction. we need professionals not children.

Khaldor talking over someone is a step in the right direction, and thats professional?

Chinnro

Australia47 Posts

August 04 2013 04:58 GMT

#68

I completely agree....Greg is measured and analytical, Thomas is the hype and the action! Awesome duo....pity no one was watching....

Mutaller

United States1049 Posts

August 04 2013 05:01 GMT

#69

Khaldor's accent is brilliant then idra's knowledge trumps over all other casters.
Analytical and Hype put together with huge personalities.

GiveMeCake

148 Posts

August 04 2013 05:02 GMT

#70

Tastosis is the best still in my option, but they are no longer as tight as they used to be, which brings in the ability for another duo to really bring excitement back into SC2. What makes Tastosis better than anyone else is their friendship and chemistry. To be the best duo, both people need to respect each other equally and not want to talk over each other, which is what we were seeing from Khaldra. Also, a good mix between nerdy, and funny/charming is really important. Lately I've noticed Artosis appears to give the analytical conclusions of the match that tasteless wants to point out, and when Tasteless has his turn, he ends up repeating most of what Artosis has said using different or simplified words. In turn, this makes Tasteless possibly feel like he needs to give the break down first to seem validated in his abilities. Tasteless is a cool nerd and Artosis is so multifaceted and knowledgeable that he's able to provide a different insight after the fact which is great. I think if they kept that format, Tasteless going first, and Artosis second, their casts would be a bit more smoother than they are now. Hopefully we will see more casting duos emerge, as I feel there's a lot of room for improvement in the scene overall.

AxionSteel

United States7754 Posts

August 04 2013 05:12 GMT

#71

I thought it might work well and it was certainly good and I enjoyed it quite a lot. I still prefer Wolfdor, because I am a long time fan of those two together, their excitement always captures my attention.
I watched Whiplash and Chobra over Tastosis for the OSL Semi, that's where Tastosis rate on my watch-o-meter these days, although Chobra and Whiplash seem to be pretty good. Apollo and anyone is fine with me also!!

MrRicewife

Canada515 Posts

August 04 2013 05:20 GMT

#72

Khaldor/anyone is best really. That guy is great.

igay

Australia1178 Posts

August 04 2013 05:21 GMT

#73

next best thing to the casting arcon for me!

faderedguy

Indonesia58 Posts

August 04 2013 05:21 GMT

#74

idra's casting is surprisingly good but he still needs to improve.
Just more expression wouldn't hurt :D

MaxField

United States2386 Posts

August 04 2013 05:23 GMT

#75

I can't say best because I do love some other peoples, but I was way impressed by how fun it was watching their games. I'd vote for them to do more!

acrimoneyius

United States983 Posts

August 04 2013 05:24 GMT

#76

While I found Idra/Khaldor quite enjoyable, there are plenty of excellent casters and casting teams out there.

Also lol @ this is what SC2 needs the most. This is pretty far down on the list of what SC2 needs.

TyrantPotato

Australia1541 Posts

August 04 2013 05:24 GMT

#77

Good. Yes

Enjoyable. Yes

Best. No

ElhayM

Canada134 Posts

August 04 2013 05:26 GMT

#78

It definitely was a good mix. I hope to see them sometime in the future again ^^

xAdra

Singapore1858 Posts

August 04 2013 05:28 GMT

#79

Khaldor seems to be way better when paired with Idra than when paired with Wolf. Much more mature and steady than the bad jokes when he's with wolf. However, whoever said that when he tries to make things exciting he sounds retarded: no other caster makes my heart beat as fast as Khaldor's exclaiming.

I'm also rapidly regaining faith in Idra for his excellent casting.

Gamegene

United States8308 Posts

August 04 2013 05:28 GMT

#80

IdrA has a bad tendency to start calling things he doesn't understand "terrible" or imply that the player is losing because of this thing he doesn't comprehend.

I think that's the only real issue I had this weekend with Khaldor and IdrA. They don't have the best chemistry together, and sometimes IdrA can get a little awkward, but that will just come with more experience.