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[Interview] 2013 WCS KR S2 PL Ro4 - Page 2

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Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
July 31 2013 00:52 GMT
#21
Royal roader... Just because this is only the second sc2 OSL, basically maru is as far away as a royal roader as possible in sc2 having played in the first GSL..

Also wasn't polt winning just 2 years ago?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 31 2013 00:59 GMT
#22
On July 31 2013 09:52 Markwerf wrote:
Royal roader... Just because this is only the second sc2 OSL, basically maru is as far away as a royal roader as possible in sc2 having played in the first GSL..

Also wasn't polt winning just 2 years ago?


Royal road is for OSL. Even in BW, players can play in PL/MSL for years and then qualifier their for OSL for the first time, and they are considered royal roaders.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
July 31 2013 01:16 GMT
#23
Thanks for the translation. Really happy for maru, I except great things from this kid.
Try another route paperboy.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
July 31 2013 01:32 GMT
#24
#primefaith
rip prime
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
July 31 2013 01:40 GMT
#25
On July 31 2013 09:48 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 06:45 ffadicted wrote:
Who would you like to face in the finals?

I hope Rain makes it through. TvP is just a little more comfortable. I can't help but feel that my chances of winning the championship will get higher if Rain advances (laughs).


Famous last words...

That is the exact same line people said when Maru wanted to play against Innovation...

That s simple.
Soulkey is hard
Incredible Miracle
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 31 2013 01:44 GMT
#26
On July 31 2013 09:48 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 06:45 ffadicted wrote:
Who would you like to face in the finals?

I hope Rain makes it through. TvP is just a little more comfortable. I can't help but feel that my chances of winning the championship will get higher if Rain advances (laughs).


Famous last words...

That is the exact same line people said when Maru wanted to play against Innovation...

Maru is a cat so he has 9 lives
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10130 Posts
July 31 2013 01:49 GMT
#27
It seems like INnoVation's momentum has diminished since the hellbat nerf.
I actually think he was on a decline even before the hellbat nerf took place.

Shots fired.

About the Bomber or Rain. Rain is a more stylistic player, easier to prepare for, specially since it is TvP.


xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
July 31 2013 02:06 GMT
#28
On July 31 2013 10:49 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
It seems like INnoVation's momentum has diminished since the hellbat nerf.
I actually think he was on a decline even before the hellbat nerf took place.

Shots fired.

About the Bomber or Rain. Rain is a more stylistic player, easier to prepare for, specially since it is TvP.




lol ? how is easy to prepare for a player that makes almost no mistakes and is the most solid MACRO protoss in the world ?
like you have no ideea how good rain is . he is THE protoss . no allins no cheese
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
thirtyapm
Profile Joined January 2012
521 Posts
July 31 2013 02:07 GMT
#29
really he wants to play rain?!

hmmm perhaps he thinks all-ins work better vs rain..?
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
July 31 2013 02:09 GMT
#30
Rain is really great at defending aggression and surviving into the late game where he has superior macro and control. I don't think Maru will be able to all-in him successfully especially now that Rain knows what to expect.
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 31 2013 02:14 GMT
#31
Maru (and all Prime Terran) actually doesn't cheese TvP that much.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 31 2013 02:17 GMT
#32
Maru is probably most likely of the 3 to 11-11 in TvP though. ByuN most likely to scv pull of course
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elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
July 31 2013 02:22 GMT
#33
Rain is better than Bomber overall with significance p ≈ 0.464.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 02:41:28
July 31 2013 02:41 GMT
#34
On July 31 2013 11:06 xsnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 10:49 Godwrath wrote:
It seems like INnoVation's momentum has diminished since the hellbat nerf.
I actually think he was on a decline even before the hellbat nerf took place.

Shots fired.

About the Bomber or Rain. Rain is a more stylistic player, easier to prepare for, specially since it is TvP.




lol ? how is easy to prepare for a player that makes almost no mistakes and is the most solid MACRO protoss in the world ?
like you have no ideea how good rain is . he is THE protoss . no allins no cheese

Innovation was a solid macro Terran, no allins and no cheese, look where that got him..

Anyways SC WOOT shoutouts and good for maru, and thanks seeker.
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 02:59:17
July 31 2013 02:54 GMT
#35
On July 31 2013 11:06 xsnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 10:49 Godwrath wrote:
It seems like INnoVation's momentum has diminished since the hellbat nerf.
I actually think he was on a decline even before the hellbat nerf took place.

Shots fired.

About the Bomber or Rain. Rain is a more stylistic player, easier to prepare for, specially since it is TvP.




lol ? how is easy to prepare for a player that makes almost no mistakes and is the most solid MACRO protoss in the world ?
like you have no ideea how good rain is . he is THE protoss . no allins no cheese

Easier =/= Easy.
And yes it is easier to prepare for expected safe strats.
worosei
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia198 Posts
July 31 2013 03:41 GMT
#36
It'd be funny if Bomber gets through,

then you'd have either the youngest royal roader, or the oldest royal roader...

although it'd be hard to work out who the underdog is then - the sage old player giving it another hurrah, or the vulnerable youth giving it his all against the world of gods and robots.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
July 31 2013 04:59 GMT
#37
I still can't believe he beat inno

maru is so good now, I remember way back when he beat tgun in code A qualifiers
you live and you learn
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 31 2013 05:23 GMT
#38
On July 31 2013 06:51 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 06:45 ffadicted wrote:
Who would you like to face in the finals?

I hope Rain makes it through. TvP is just a little more comfortable. I can't help but feel that my chances of winning the championship will get higher if Rain advances (laughs).


Famous last words...

That's what people said when Maru said he wanted to face Innovation. We all know how that turned out.


Cant cheese the Protoss
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
July 31 2013 06:21 GMT
#39
Going to be kinda funny if two eSF players get to finals of the OSL whilst GSL has had Kespa finalists Reversal!
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
July 31 2013 06:29 GMT
#40
화염기갑병 하향 이후 이신형의 기세가 하락세인 듯 하다.

그 이전보다는 약해지신 것 같다.


Maru is not saying Innovation was already on decline even before hellbat nerf, He simply stated that he is weaker than before

(which refers to pre-hellbat nerf time)
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