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http://de.intelextrememasters.com/news/iem-shanghai-the-groups-have-been-drawn/
After rigorous regional qualifiers we whittled it down to eight fierce players. With a fully paid trip to Shanghai and WCS points on the line, the biggest names in Starcraft II flocked to their respective qualifiers.
These eight players are joined by the top four applicants from the WCS ranking: Song "HerO" Hyeon Deok, Han "aLive" Lee Seok, Kim "Revival" Dong Hyun and Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong. All four players are currently ranked within the top twenty in the WCS rank and will, no doubt, pose a huge threat to their fellow competitors.
Four slots remain for the players who can distinguish themselves from the gauntlet in Stage 1 of the main event. Stage 1 will be played in two double elimination brackets of eight players. The top two from each bracket will earn a coveted spot in the group stage of the tournament. With players such as Park "DongRaeGu" Soo Ho, Manuel "Grubby" Schenkhuizen and Jang "MC" Min Chul the path to Stage 2 is formidable.
You can follow the action starting 9:15 AM CST every day from the 25th to 28th July - first up is Stage 1 on the 25th, to determine the final four players in the groups of Stage 2. Stage 2 will then be played out on 26th and 27th, with the grand final on the 28th. Tune in to the action on ESL TV!
Group A: Myungsik, Titan, Revival, open bracket #1
Group B: Alive, Slivko, MAcsed, open bracket #2
Group C: Hero, qxc, Jaedong, open bracket #3
Group D, hyun, Polt, Iaguz, open bracket #4
It says they were "chosen by WCS points". Does anybody know what exactly this means and by what system they were chosen? Especially since Jaedong was only 20th in that ranking.
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That means they were inviting WCS ranked players and kept on inviting until 4 of them replied "Yes".
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I would guess those were the top 4 players that could actually make it there
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On July 24 2013 03:35 Ammanas wrote:
That means they were inviting WCS ranked players and kept on inviting until 4 of them replied "Yes".
That would make a very surprisingly long list of "No". That is why I do have my doubts about that.
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Why not ask in the IEM thread instead like you were told by JBright in your last thread? I mean Carmac was in there answering questions so you could ask him, he would know right?
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There are teams besides EG and TL... so many players could have been given an opportunity TT
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On July 24 2013 03:45 Rhaegal wrote:
There are teams besides EG and TL... so many players could have been given an opportunity TT
not for catching an audience of foreign fanboys 
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On July 24 2013 03:40 Aunvilgod wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 03:35 Ammanas wrote:
That means they were inviting WCS ranked players and kept on inviting until 4 of them replied "Yes". That would make a very surprisingly long list of "No". That is why I do have my doubts about that.
first, it says applicants, so they were the highest ranked players to apply.
also, it is imaginable that other teams cant/dont want to send their players to china, so teams like EG/TL sent their players,
because they have more budget to do so
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On July 24 2013 03:43 JackDragon wrote:
Why not ask in the IEM thread instead like you were told by JBright in your last thread? I mean Carmac was in there answering questions so you could ask him, he would know right?
My last thread got deleted before I could open it again. I did ask Carmac on twitter but I am not sure if he answeres at all and also not sure if he wants to answer the core of the question.
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KeSPA teams will only send their players if IEM pays for flight and/or hotel. IEM prob said they wouldn't do this. EG and TL have enough money to pay for flights so they said yes. IDK about the esf players
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According to Adebisi many Korean players have to play WCG qualifiers.
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China6330 Posts
Huh so the last spot went to Jaedong, I thought it was the top 4 of WCS AM or something.
Oh wtf MC and DRG are playing!!!! This is gonna be the most stacked line-up ever in a tournament on Chinese soil.
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Even the ESF guys? And even the Liquid and Axiom guys?
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On July 24 2013 03:40 Aunvilgod wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 03:35 Ammanas wrote:
That means they were inviting WCS ranked players and kept on inviting until 4 of them replied "Yes". That would make a very surprisingly long list of "No". That is why I do have my doubts about that.
They are invites without paid travel, unlike the qualifiers
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i hear this "Revial" is pretty good
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On July 24 2013 04:04 spena wrote:
i hear this "Revial" is pretty good
oops.
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Something a bit silly here: Those who qualified or were invited based on WCS points are already top 16 and therefore have already locked in 75 points. Thus, 4 players were invited based on points and immediately earned more without doing anything. Haha.
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On July 24 2013 04:01 Aunvilgod wrote:Even the ESF guys? And even the Liquid and Axiom guys?
ESF might not want to pay for flights, Liquid is sending HerO since it's probably cheaper than sending TLO from EU, and I dunno about Alicia and Ryung but,
/summon TotalBiscuit TB Axiom
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 24 2013 04:01 Aunvilgod wrote:Even the ESF guys? And even the Liquid and Axiom guys?
WCG is still fairly prestigious in Korea I guess?
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gogo EG-TL! 
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On July 24 2013 04:05 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Something a bit silly here: Those who qualified or were invited based on WCS points are already top 16 and therefore have already locked in 75 points. Thus, 4 players were invited based on points and immediately earned more without doing anything. Haha.
I think it is a terrible system. But the majority seems to think it is good. Oh well.
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On July 24 2013 04:08 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:01 Aunvilgod wrote:Even the ESF guys? And even the Liquid and Axiom guys? WCG is still fairly prestigious in Korea I guess?
Then know that if they qualify, they have basically won the whole thing.
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Bisutopia19299 Posts
Badass. So fun seeing JD at all these tournaments!
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I think the lack of practice is going to start kicking in soon. Think of MC in 2011.
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United States33492 Posts
On July 24 2013 03:35 Ammanas wrote:
That means they were inviting WCS ranked players and kept on inviting until 4 of them replied "Yes".
that is exactly what happened
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On July 24 2013 03:45 Rhaegal wrote:
There are teams besides EG and TL... so many players could have been given an opportunity TT
I'm sure many were asked before but their team couldn't send them unlike EG who can send anybody anywhere
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I have the feeling that passports and visas might have also gotten in the way slightly, depending on where IEM is this year.
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On July 24 2013 04:59 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 03:35 Ammanas wrote:
That means they were inviting WCS ranked players and kept on inviting until 4 of them replied "Yes". that is exactly what happened
Well if you say so. You are usually well informed.
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On July 24 2013 04:59 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 03:35 Ammanas wrote:
That means they were inviting WCS ranked players and kept on inviting until 4 of them replied "Yes". that is exactly what happened
Based on the word "applicants" I assume that rather everyone who wanted to go via those spots applied, and they took the top 4 out of those players
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On July 24 2013 04:49 BisuDagger wrote:
Badass. So fun seeing JD at all these tournaments!
Yeah but its high time he brings in the gold. Don't want another yellow situation going on..
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On July 24 2013 04:06 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:01 Aunvilgod wrote:Even the ESF guys? And even the Liquid and Axiom guys? ESF might not want to pay for flights, Liquid is sending HerO since it's probably cheaper than sending TLO from EU, and I dunno about Alicia and Ryung but, /summon TotalBiscuit TB Axiom
Our guys want to play the WCG qualifiers.
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Awesome, cant wait, hopefully JD doesn't get second at this tourny
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On July 24 2013 04:06 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:01 Aunvilgod wrote:Even the ESF guys? And even the Liquid and Axiom guys? ESF might not want to pay for flights, Liquid is sending HerO since it's probably cheaper than sending TLO from EU, and I dunno about Alicia and Ryung but, /summon TotalBiscuit TB Axiom
eSF doesn't pay for flights just so It's clear, the individual teams do.
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at first i thought it said "leaving EG-TL'.
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Are in the Dual Tournament only chinese player or also some others?
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It is possible Kespa only allowed the ones that qualified to go, leaving a few non-Kesparians for the 4 invites. Even if it isn't done completely by WCS points, it's not like WCS pts. count for that much.
But, happy to see Jaedong going, since I'd say he's clearly the best of the 4 invites and has been doing quite well recently (despite his lackluster WCS ranking).
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On July 24 2013 06:05 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:06 jalstar wrote:On July 24 2013 04:01 Aunvilgod wrote:Even the ESF guys? And even the Liquid and Axiom guys? ESF might not want to pay for flights, Liquid is sending HerO since it's probably cheaper than sending TLO from EU, and I dunno about Alicia and Ryung but, /summon TotalBiscuit TB Axiom eSF doesn't pay for flights just so It's clear, the individual teams do.
I know, I was talking about the teams as a whole.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On July 24 2013 04:08 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:01 Aunvilgod wrote:Even the ESF guys? And even the Liquid and Axiom guys? WCG is still fairly prestigious in Korea I guess?
An IM player once said in an interview that IM took the piss out of yonghwa as "korea's representative" when he won WCG Korea. But I dunno I guess being undefeated champs of WCG starcraft has become a point of pride for them maybe.
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On July 24 2013 06:19 Aridhol wrote:
Are in the Dual Tournament only chinese player or also some others?
DRG, MC and Grubby confirmed for Dual Tournament
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On July 24 2013 04:08 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:01 Aunvilgod wrote:Even the ESF guys? And even the Liquid and Axiom guys? WCG is still fairly prestigious in Korea I guess?
It gives eSport medals...of course it's prestigious, just like that martial arts stuff...
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Northern Ireland26092 Posts
Hopefully HerO can claw back some of the WCS points he lost with his NA exit.
If IEM aren't doing a tournament based entirely on qualifiers, I suppose WCS points is the next best thing. After all that was one of the points of implementing the system wasn't it?
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On July 24 2013 04:59 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 03:35 Ammanas wrote:
That means they were inviting WCS ranked players and kept on inviting until 4 of them replied "Yes". that is exactly what happened
if this was the case why didnt innovation play the qualifiers instead of accepting an invitation (besides later on giving up his spot).
knew the question of how they chose players would come up. sounds like a generic bullshit answer from iem. so many players wouldve jumped on the invitation if it were true
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On July 24 2013 08:57 DaftFunk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:59 Waxangel wrote:On July 24 2013 03:35 Ammanas wrote:
That means they were inviting WCS ranked players and kept on inviting until 4 of them replied "Yes". that is exactly what happened if this was the case why didnt innovation play the qualifiers instead of accepting an invitation (besides later on giving up his spot). knew the question of how they chose players would come up. sounds like a generic bullshit answer from iem. so many players wouldve jumped on the invitation if it were true
Qualifier are paid trip, invite are not
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On July 24 2013 07:15 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:19 Aridhol wrote:
Are in the Dual Tournament only chinese player or also some others? DRG, MC and Grubby confirmed for Dual Tournament
Don't forget ToD ! 
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On July 24 2013 09:08 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 07:15 TommyP wrote:On July 24 2013 06:19 Aridhol wrote:
Are in the Dual Tournament only chinese player or also some others? DRG, MC and Grubby confirmed for Dual Tournament Don't forget ToD !
Tod is there as a caster, not sure he will be able to play.
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Jimcredible to win it all the way from the open bracket. I BELIEVE!
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It will be a fun event but I am starting to wish we had more teams willing to travel, having EG/TL players at every event and rarely getting to see so many other top players does start to get a bit boring. I guess it's more WCS's fault for giving points to every tournament.
Hopefully the open bracket is nicely full of top Koreans!
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Is there a better way to confirm? i can't find anything on wcg website or liquidpedia on korean wcg qualifiers this early in the year. Especially since grand final always in late December. Also is this why innovation dropped out after he did the IEM qualifier and got a paid trip?
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On July 24 2013 09:05 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 08:57 DaftFunk wrote:On July 24 2013 04:59 Waxangel wrote:On July 24 2013 03:35 Ammanas wrote:
That means they were inviting WCS ranked players and kept on inviting until 4 of them replied "Yes". that is exactly what happened if this was the case why didnt innovation play the qualifiers instead of accepting an invitation (besides later on giving up his spot). knew the question of how they chose players would come up. sounds like a generic bullshit answer from iem. so many players wouldve jumped on the invitation if it were true Qualifier are paid trip, invite are not
Why did Innovation give up his spot to Hyun?
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On July 24 2013 10:49 Gotnerves wrote:Is there a better way to confirm? i can't find anything on wcg website or liquidpedia on korean wcg qualifiers this early in the year. Especially since grand final always in late December. Also is this why innovation dropped out after he did the IEM qualifier and got a paid trip?
Korean WCG qualifier has always taken place in August and September. It doesnt take an investigation to confirm
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On July 24 2013 10:51 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 09:05 ragz_gt wrote:On July 24 2013 08:57 DaftFunk wrote:On July 24 2013 04:59 Waxangel wrote:On July 24 2013 03:35 Ammanas wrote:
That means they were inviting WCS ranked players and kept on inviting until 4 of them replied "Yes". that is exactly what happened if this was the case why didnt innovation play the qualifiers instead of accepting an invitation (besides later on giving up his spot). knew the question of how they chose players would come up. sounds like a generic bullshit answer from iem. so many players wouldve jumped on the invitation if it were true Qualifier are paid trip, invite are not Why did Innovation give up his spot to Hyun?
He has pro league finals this weekend.
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HyuN becoming the new MC recently by attending every tournament possible. After MLG and DreamHack he goes on to participate in IEM and ASUS ROG, and with the amount of WCS points he is accumulating, even a decent showing at IEM will probably secure his spot in the Ro16 despite never playing in any Premier league region-locked tournament.
Groups are balanced and don't have any major favorites if there are more than two Koreans in each group. Looking forward to this tournament for sure this weekend.
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Bisutopia19299 Posts
Anyone else miss oGsMC? I really hope he can reach the finals here.
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Meh player pool, funny thing is, it feels like the 4 recently announced players could just place top 4 XD
The only two other players I can see doing good are Polt and HyuN, the three noted open bracket players are doing terrible in HotS. :/
I just dont see the reason that they had by inviting the first 4 going down the WCS points list since it seems like so many declined. Once you reach rank 20, which I think is what Jaedong is, then you have a problem.
It'll also be interesting to see the Chinese open bracket, since this is the only big international tournament that has had one in SC2. We might see some Chinese pros make it out, like XY and Jim (who, if he is there, will surely make it out). Also to excited to see Taiwanese players there, hopefully Slam and Sen are there!
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innovation? what happened
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On July 24 2013 11:41 Laryleprakon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 10:51 c0ldfusion wrote:On July 24 2013 09:05 ragz_gt wrote:On July 24 2013 08:57 DaftFunk wrote:On July 24 2013 04:59 Waxangel wrote:On July 24 2013 03:35 Ammanas wrote:
That means they were inviting WCS ranked players and kept on inviting until 4 of them replied "Yes". that is exactly what happened if this was the case why didnt innovation play the qualifiers instead of accepting an invitation (besides later on giving up his spot). knew the question of how they chose players would come up. sounds like a generic bullshit answer from iem. so many players wouldve jumped on the invitation if it were true Qualifier are paid trip, invite are not Why did Innovation give up his spot to Hyun? He has pro league finals this weekend.
Pro league finals is next weekend not this
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United States23455 Posts
No way STX Soul is going to send their super ace and current best player in the world over to Shanghai a week before they play in their first ever Proleague Grand Finals. They've been playing in Proleague for over a decade and have never made a final. I'm sure STX Soul does not want to take any chances of him getting sick, mugged, attacked, losing focus, or not getting the essential practice.
And he also has the OSL semifinals against Maru.
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On July 24 2013 05:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:06 jalstar wrote:On July 24 2013 04:01 Aunvilgod wrote:Even the ESF guys? And even the Liquid and Axiom guys? ESF might not want to pay for flights, Liquid is sending HerO since it's probably cheaper than sending TLO from EU, and I dunno about Alicia and Ryung but, /summon TotalBiscuit TB Axiom Our guys want to play the WCG qualifiers.
Kind of cool that /summon worked. Just saying.
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On July 24 2013 13:20 MisterFred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 04:06 jalstar wrote:On July 24 2013 04:01 Aunvilgod wrote:Even the ESF guys? And even the Liquid and Axiom guys? ESF might not want to pay for flights, Liquid is sending HerO since it's probably cheaper than sending TLO from EU, and I dunno about Alicia and Ryung but, /summon TotalBiscuit TB Axiom Our guys want to play the WCG qualifiers. Kind of cool that /summon worked. Just saying.
He searches his own name a lot, pretty much all pros and personalities do it from what I've heard.
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So now even IEM is mostly korean event? Seven koreans out of 12 and only two europeans (not counting open bracket). This must be most boring IEM ever.
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Only 1 Chinese guy? time for them to overwhelm the open bracket!
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On July 24 2013 13:11 Fionn wrote:
No way STX Soul is going to send their super ace and current best player in the world over to Shanghai a week before they play in their first ever Proleague Grand Finals. They've been playing in Proleague for over a decade and have never made a final. I'm sure STX Soul does not want to take any chances of him getting sick, mugged, attacked, losing focus, or not getting the essential practice.
And he also has the OSL semifinals against Maru.
That's certainly an interesting opinion that you have: 2005 SKY Proleague and if they've been playing for "over a decade" you presumably also count 2003 KeMongSa KPGA Tour Team League and the 2004 SKY Proleague.
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On July 24 2013 15:30 schaf wrote:
Only 1 Chinese guy? time for them to overwhelm the open bracket!
Im sure some top chinese players like jim will make it through open bracket.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Some nice competitive groups these, will be interesting. Hoping Jim joins any group other than Group C lol XD
Jim vs Jaedong finals!!! Please <3
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On July 24 2013 17:13 Pandemona wrote:
Some nice competitive groups these, will be interesting. Hoping Jim joins any group other than Group C lol XD
Jim vs Jaedong finals!!! Please <3
A protoss who's really good at 2basing zerg vs jaedong? Sounds like a quick 4:0 tbh
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qxc got a interesting group. If he somehow manages to advance he could possible go far. If he fails we would get the best analytic desk. ToD + qxc
Its a win-win situation for viewers.
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On July 24 2013 04:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:gogo EG-TL!
You missed that it's not Proleague.
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GLHF qxc
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On July 24 2013 17:16 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 17:13 Pandemona wrote:
Some nice competitive groups these, will be interesting. Hoping Jim joins any group other than Group C lol XD
Jim vs Jaedong finals!!! Please <3 A protoss who's really good at 2basing zerg vs jaedong? Sounds like a quick 4:0 tbh
Just like previous DH, where Stardust who's really good at doing 2b vs Zerg defeated Jeadong...
Ohh wai...
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Highest WCS points among EG-TL players maybe.
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Come to our tournament they said
It'll be fun they said.
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On July 25 2013 10:33 iaguz wrote:
Come to our tournament they said
It'll be fun they said.
Heh. That is a rough draw. Put the training montage from Rocky on in the background. Eye of the Tiger! A few more clichés and victory is within your grasp...
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EPT
