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Empire parts ways with Brat_OK and Aristeo

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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
July 16 2013 14:55 GMT
#1
From the Empire website.

It's really sad to grasp that after a year in Team Empire, Brat_OK leaves the team. About reasons of such decision and what caused it you can read below in statements of both sides.

We are grateful to Pavel foe his stunning streams, for maybe not so major but important wins, for his contribution in development of Empire.

Despite the fact that Brat_OK isn't part of team anymore, it doesn't mean we completely finished cooperation with him. It's quite possible that you'll see Pavel in our projects and on EmpireTV.


Statement from Aleksandr "StrangeR" Solomonov, team manager

After arrival of Brat_OK in our team, we at last found so long awaited stability in roster, that was a pretty big factor. Good atmosphere in the team, one goal, wins in clan leagues - all that gave players motivation. In the period of WoL, terrans had issues playing against zergs and it was really hard to estimate level of their skill, so we were tolerant about results our roster demonstrated. But now, it's HotS and everything changed.

It's not a secret that main reason of parting with Brat_OK is his unsatisfactory results. IEM Shanghai, ASUS ROG, WCS qualifications became the last straw. Yes, we are also guilty at some point, but in such cases, most of responsibility always lies with the player.

Pasha is probably most disciplined player I've ever worked with, furthermore - he's an excellent person. During our cooperation we have never had any issues.

In the near future he will face a difficult period. Brat_OK, first of all, should decide, where he is going, whether he is staying in e-Sport or not. I wish Pavel good luck in all his endeavors and will do everything to help him, hope that all of you will join me and support player during complicated period of team change.


Statement from Pavel "Brat_OK" Kuznecov

Sometimes, winning of online tournaments is not enough. And you won't get very far on your old achievements. Empire is a good team that gave me huge experience. It was pleasure to communicate with many of people in this organization, but nothing lasts forever, so I will look for a new team. Good luck to all of you!


Also noted in the post is that Aristeo, an inactive member of their roster, has decided to retire and move to the next stage of his life.

Those of you who have been around TeamLiquid a while will remember his particularly strong BW play, winning DreamHack and WCG as well as a third place finish in the first TSL.

Team Empire current roster:

(T)Kas
(T)Happy
(P)Siw
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
July 16 2013 14:58 GMT
#2
GL in the future!

Aristeo was a top 2v2 player in BW right?
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
July 16 2013 15:00 GMT
#3
Wow the empire roster is tiny now. I wonder if they plan on exiting the sc2 scene.
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Meerel
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany713 Posts
July 16 2013 15:00 GMT
#4
pretty sure aristeo is a wc3 player
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GreeNFalcoN
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany8 Posts
July 16 2013 15:00 GMT
#5
So sad to see so many Empire players now teamless I'm curious, if we'll see some new faces in their line-up soon...
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zw1er
Profile Joined February 2012
Poland81 Posts
July 16 2013 15:00 GMT
#6
Does it mean that they will pick up some new players?
extremko
Profile Joined July 2004
Yugoslavia104 Posts
July 16 2013 15:00 GMT
#7
GL to both Empire and Brat_OK. Hope he stays in eSport.

BTW, what about Beastyqt?
Isn't he still a member of Empire?
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ATiBright
Profile Joined August 2011
59 Posts
July 16 2013 15:01 GMT
#8
Always enjoyed watching Brat_OK early on in WOL, hope he finds a good team and motivation to get back in form as one of the better EU Terrans.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 16 2013 15:01 GMT
#9
i guess bratok wants to be going to tournaments in the US maybe?

sad to see him without a team :<
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 15:01:59
July 16 2013 15:01 GMT
#10
On July 17 2013 00:00 ReachTheSky wrote:
Wow the empire roster is tiny now. I wonder if they plan on exiting the sc2 scene.

Doesn't seem so, the statement just indicates that they want people who show results.

GL to BratOK in the future.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 15:02:43
July 16 2013 15:01 GMT
#11
On July 17 2013 00:00 extremko wrote:
GL to both Empire and Brat_OK. Hope he stays in eSport.

BTW, what about Beastyqt?
Isn't he still a member of Empire?

beastyqt left a little while ago he now plays for (Wiki)cascade
http://www.team-empire.org/news/1343/?lang=en
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 16 2013 15:02 GMT
#12
On July 17 2013 00:01 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 00:00 extremko wrote:
GL to both Empire and Brat_OK. Hope he stays in eSport.

BTW, what about Beastyqt?
Isn't he still a member of Empire?

beastyqt left a little while ago
http://www.team-empire.org/news/1343/?lang=en

And joined Team Cascade.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
July 16 2013 15:02 GMT
#13
Too bad, I liked him being on Empire. Seems kind of weird that Empire is no longer just the team with basically nothing but good terran players.
extremko
Profile Joined July 2004
Yugoslavia104 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 15:03:58
July 16 2013 15:03 GMT
#14
Thanks NovemberstOrm.
(edit: and StarVe )
Dark days for Empire, indeed...
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 15:03:31
July 16 2013 15:03 GMT
#15
On July 17 2013 00:02 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 00:01 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 17 2013 00:00 extremko wrote:
GL to both Empire and Brat_OK. Hope he stays in eSport.

BTW, what about Beastyqt?
Isn't he still a member of Empire?

beastyqt left a little while ago
http://www.team-empire.org/news/1343/?lang=en

And joined Team Cascade.

added that in just as you posted that xD
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BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
July 16 2013 15:03 GMT
#16
Kas has job security, methinks.
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mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
July 16 2013 15:04 GMT
#17
gl pasha
KaiserKieran
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States615 Posts
July 16 2013 15:06 GMT
#18
Hopefully Empire will get some new blood on their roster!
BoB_KiLLeR
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain620 Posts
July 16 2013 15:11 GMT
#19
Aristeo was so good, I never understood why he never competed in 1vs1.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 16 2013 15:13 GMT
#20
Gl to Bratok and Empire in the future.
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TRpredator
Profile Joined March 2012
Russian Federation101 Posts
July 16 2013 15:18 GMT
#21
Maybe they'll get some players from NSHS. GL to both team and Bratok!
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
July 16 2013 15:18 GMT
#22
I wonder what empire is going to do next after they only have 3 players left?

Beastyqt, aristeo and brat_ok are really good players, i wonder what expectations empire with them.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 16 2013 15:23 GMT
#23
On July 17 2013 00:11 BoB_KiLLeR wrote:
Aristeo was so good, I never understood why he never competed in 1vs1.

He used to play in quite many online cups and Empire used to send him out for 1v1 in team leagues around 2011. He never was on the level of their better players though.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
July 16 2013 15:29 GMT
#24
This doesn't look good and nothing is said about the future plans. I hope they get some reinforcements soon. Gl bratok! :/
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 16 2013 15:30 GMT
#25
Hope Bratok gets picked up soon. Used to follow him a bit closer some time ago, but I haven't heard much of him in a while.
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GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
July 16 2013 15:32 GMT
#26
Brat_ok and Beastyqt were the faces of Empire for me, now all they have is Kas.
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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
July 16 2013 15:34 GMT
#27
o.o the roster is soooo small
rip prime
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
July 16 2013 15:47 GMT
#28
Empire to buy out Azubu team. They´re practically free agents
ErrantKnight
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland186 Posts
July 16 2013 15:53 GMT
#29
GL BratOK, hope you find a new team super soon.
Empire kind of has a really small roster now, are they going to recruit ?
"Quantity is quality by itself"
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 16 2013 15:54 GMT
#30
Wow, it will be weird to see Brat_Ok under a different banner than Empire...
I hope Empire will soon hire at least two more players, three alone make no team (for teamleagues).
GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
July 16 2013 16:03 GMT
#31
Empire is really having roster issues this year all around, for SC2 and Dota. Hopefully by 2014 they'll be a strong force in both games again.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 16 2013 16:05 GMT
#32
I guess Empire will recruit some players soon. I'll paste this tweet from the SC2 manager posted a few days ago :

Alexander Solomonov
‏@EmpireStrangeR
The big changes at Empire.sc2 are coming. Time to open new projects. I promise 3 news!

Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
July 16 2013 16:32 GMT
#33
skt_bratok
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 16 2013 16:32 GMT
#34
So, what do you guys think, will Brat_OK go back to rox.kis? Would be nice to see him back there, seeing him without the rox.kis-tag always seemed weird. However, I doubt he has big problems to find a new team, his stream numbers are pretty big afaik.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 16:41:17
July 16 2013 16:39 GMT
#35
On July 17 2013 00:18 Sokrates wrote:
I wonder what empire is going to do next after they only have 3 players left?

Beastyqt, aristeo and brat_ok are really good players, i wonder what expectations empire with them.

Well I don't think Beastyqt was removed, I think he left, though I'm not sure why he'd join a much smaller team. Aristeo was inactive and Brat_OK was a top player in Russia when he joined, and now he's gone down quite a bit (compared with Happy or Verdi for example)..perhaps they couldn't justify his salary; he's also not in WCS and I think many teams place a lot of value in that, and not even being in Challenger is not attractive for teams/sponsors.

Perhaps they'll pick up fuzer's Polish troll brother now.

Quite a few Russian teams are weak at the moment, even RoX, with fraer and Pomi being inactive
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Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
July 16 2013 16:59 GMT
#36
gl brat_ok make Empire regret this decision.
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fnaticNoname
Profile Joined January 2008
India858 Posts
July 16 2013 17:04 GMT
#37
Am sure StrangeR has a plan, he's one of the best managers in the scene. GL to BratOK, looking forward to what Empire will do next.
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
July 16 2013 17:06 GMT
#38
Poor BratOK. Easily one of my favorite foreign BW terrans, sad to not see his skills transfer well to SC2. Here's to hoping he can rebound and find another team that will allow him to reach his true potential! GL!
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
July 16 2013 17:15 GMT
#39
Why is it always 'part ways' when teams drop players?
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
July 16 2013 17:17 GMT
#40
On July 17 2013 02:15 iTzSnypah wrote:
Why is it always 'part ways' when teams drop players?


It sounds nicer than saying so and so quit the team or got fired.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 16 2013 17:28 GMT
#41
When I first moved to Korea, I still used to download Brat_OK replays for inspiration. The TvP build I used to basically win almost all my MLG Dallas TvPs was something I made from watching Brat_OK replays (raven/marine/marauder).

Always liked his play, hope he lands somewhere decent (or even better than decent)!
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 22:09:31
July 16 2013 17:34 GMT
#42
On July 17 2013 00:00 ReachTheSky wrote:
Wow the empire roster is tiny now. I wonder if they plan on exiting the sc2 scene.


To clear things up, I wanna say that Empire opens their academy for CIS players. They will find someone very soon.
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jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
July 16 2013 18:14 GMT
#43
bratok ne tort
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-IeZaeL-
Profile Joined December 2007
Spain327 Posts
July 16 2013 18:19 GMT
#44
Now they only have to kick Siw, the most bm and useless protoss player in Europe. Too bad he's not coming to Valencia..
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
July 16 2013 18:29 GMT
#45
On July 17 2013 02:15 iTzSnypah wrote:
Why is it always 'part ways' when teams drop players?

sounds much more polite than the blatant truth: "player xy got fired because of his bad performance". (or, in idra's case: "... got fired because he is a douche and unbearable on a professional team" )
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sashqinCho
Profile Joined March 2011
Russian Federation131 Posts
July 16 2013 19:24 GMT
#46
very sad news
GL bratOK! Was cheering for Empire becuase of him...
asd
MaGariShun
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria305 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 19:26:18
July 16 2013 19:25 GMT
#47
On July 17 2013 03:29 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 02:15 iTzSnypah wrote:
Why is it always 'part ways' when teams drop players?

sounds much more polite than the blatant truth: "player xy got fired because of his bad performance". (or, in idra's case: "... got fired because he is a douche and unbearable on a professional team" )

That's not how it works most of the time (although it did in Idra's case).
They don't get fired, it's just that their contract is over and renegotiation doesn't come to a positive conclusion.
In this case empire probably flat out wanted to decrease their roster or adjusted Brat_OK's pay to reflect his poor performance and he didn't want to agree.
I like that Empire is direct about the matter and not beating around the bush like a lot of other teams.
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
July 16 2013 19:47 GMT
#48
cubert & Aristeo best 2v2 team in the history of SC2.
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kukarachaa
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
July 16 2013 19:51 GMT
#49
Brat_ok was and still is my favorite player, learned a lot of things from his streams. But he definitely isn't the player he used to be.
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
July 16 2013 20:10 GMT
#50
Thats kinda sad, GL to Brat_ok in the future, EG.Brat_ok[RC]
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 16 2013 20:16 GMT
#51
Holy crap Empire's roster is small now.
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politik
Profile Joined September 2010
409 Posts
July 16 2013 20:17 GMT
#52
Biggest thing I remember from Brat_OK was that NASL thread where a horde of Russians came and spammed voting for him.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 16 2013 20:51 GMT
#53
On July 17 2013 01:05 Boucot wrote:
I guess Empire will recruit some players soon. I'll paste this tweet from the SC2 manager posted a few days ago :

Show nested quote +
Alexander Solomonov
‏@EmpireStrangeR
The big changes at Empire.sc2 are coming. Time to open new projects. I promise 3 news!

https://twitter.com/EmpireStrangeR/status/356030849185095680

BratOK leaving was the 2nd news already though, the first one was them opening an academy for CIS players. I'd assume that the 3rd news is them signing a new player or maybe even more than one. Still, most of these news have already been posted.
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
July 16 2013 21:19 GMT
#54
gl...sad news
Beastyqt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Serbia516 Posts
July 16 2013 21:34 GMT
#55
On July 17 2013 01:39 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 00:18 Sokrates wrote:
I wonder what empire is going to do next after they only have 3 players left?

Beastyqt, aristeo and brat_ok are really good players, i wonder what expectations empire with them.

Well I don't think Beastyqt was removed, I think he left, though I'm not sure why he'd join a much smaller team. Aristeo was inactive and Brat_OK was a top player in Russia when he joined, and now he's gone down quite a bit (compared with Happy or Verdi for example)..perhaps they couldn't justify his salary; he's also not in WCS and I think many teams place a lot of value in that, and not even being in Challenger is not attractive for teams/sponsors.

Perhaps they'll pick up fuzer's Polish troll brother now.

Quite a few Russian teams are weak at the moment, even RoX, with fraer and Pomi being inactive


Didn't leave.
Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/Beastyqt YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/beastyqtsc2
Glenn313
Profile Joined August 2011
United States475 Posts
July 17 2013 01:33 GMT
#56
Great that Brat_OK left with some kind words
Hey man
Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
July 17 2013 08:05 GMT
#57
On July 17 2013 06:34 Beastyqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 01:39 mikkmagro wrote:
On July 17 2013 00:18 Sokrates wrote:
I wonder what empire is going to do next after they only have 3 players left?

Beastyqt, aristeo and brat_ok are really good players, i wonder what expectations empire with them.

Well I don't think Beastyqt was removed, I think he left, though I'm not sure why he'd join a much smaller team. Aristeo was inactive and Brat_OK was a top player in Russia when he joined, and now he's gone down quite a bit (compared with Happy or Verdi for example)..perhaps they couldn't justify his salary; he's also not in WCS and I think many teams place a lot of value in that, and not even being in Challenger is not attractive for teams/sponsors.

Perhaps they'll pick up fuzer's Polish troll brother now.

Quite a few Russian teams are weak at the moment, even RoX, with fraer and Pomi being inactive


Didn't leave.


Interessting....
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
July 17 2013 08:34 GMT
#58
On July 17 2013 02:28 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
When I first moved to Korea, I still used to download Brat_OK replays for inspiration. The TvP build I used to basically win almost all my MLG Dallas TvPs was something I made from watching Brat_OK replays (raven/marine/marauder).

Always liked his play, hope he lands somewhere decent (or even better than decent)!


fuckin pre 1-1-1 bullshit, i hate u
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 17 2013 08:46 GMT
#59
Good luck to both of these players in the future.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
July 17 2013 08:56 GMT
#60
On July 17 2013 06:34 Beastyqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 01:39 mikkmagro wrote:
On July 17 2013 00:18 Sokrates wrote:
I wonder what empire is going to do next after they only have 3 players left?

Beastyqt, aristeo and brat_ok are really good players, i wonder what expectations empire with them.

Well I don't think Beastyqt was removed, I think he left, though I'm not sure why he'd join a much smaller team. Aristeo was inactive and Brat_OK was a top player in Russia when he joined, and now he's gone down quite a bit (compared with Happy or Verdi for example)..perhaps they couldn't justify his salary; he's also not in WCS and I think many teams place a lot of value in that, and not even being in Challenger is not attractive for teams/sponsors.

Perhaps they'll pick up fuzer's Polish troll brother now.

Quite a few Russian teams are weak at the moment, even RoX, with fraer and Pomi being inactive


Didn't leave.


Oh ok, I remember you thinking of leaving Empire a few months back, so I assumed you left. I understand releasing Brat_OK due to lack of results, but you've been doing well in the WCS...How come did you decide to join a much smaller team though, when I'm sure that quite a few bigger teams would have been interested..
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nachtkap
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany195 Posts
July 17 2013 11:44 GMT
#61
I appreciate the honesty. The bland corporate speak in statements like this is most often then not the worst thing it.
Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines399 Posts
July 17 2013 12:20 GMT
#62
Sad, I was hoping Brat_OK would do better in the future coz I am really sure he's been training alot. I hope to see you on a new team soon I am fan since broodwar.
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matsushi
Profile Joined December 2010
Philippines65 Posts
July 17 2013 14:20 GMT
#63
gl hf bratok, aristeo and empire
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dirtydurb82
Profile Joined December 2012
United States178 Posts
July 18 2013 02:21 GMT
#64
GL HF in future tournaments Brat!
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 18 2013 02:36 GMT
#65
Hope to see BratOK in another team. He just doesn't seem to play hardly at all, unless he's using barcodes, but it always seemed like this.
AlphaMan
Profile Joined July 2013
13 Posts
July 18 2013 03:02 GMT
#66
I hope he gets better, he was one of my favorite players to watch in the beta and early in WoL
MatiaasS !
Profile Joined October 2011
Chile167 Posts
July 18 2013 20:43 GMT
#67
Empire really needs new players to their roster.
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