EPTEx-Karont3 removed from Acer Teamstory Cup - Page 3
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Forgottenfrog
United States1268 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 11 2013 04:01 Floobie wrote: For sure this is the right decision*. Bringing in Sortof and Thorzain is a ridiculous idea, 2 players + 3 jokers. The manager playing would result in any game he played being a walkover for his opponent (i may be wrong, i dont know if the manager is a former pro, very high masters, etc?) *The only situation i can agree with and think K3 should of been allowed to do to continue in the league, is quickly signing 2 fully teamless players to the team so they would continue as 4 K3 players + Socke as the joker. Whatever our opinion is, it seems apparent that the communication between and with the admins was not good enough. Anyone remember WGTour Clan League games? I remember us having to use Managers sometimes because a lot of our boys couldn't show up on certain dates. lol Fun times! Poor Ash and James. They won a few times though, haha. | ||
Waxangel
United States33513 Posts
On June 11 2013 04:01 Floobie wrote: For sure this is the right decision*. Bringing in Sortof and Thorzain is a ridiculous idea, 2 players + 3 jokers. The manager playing would result in any game he played being a walkover for his opponent (i may be wrong, i dont know if the manager is a former pro, very high masters, etc?) *The only situation i can agree with and think K3 should of been allowed to do to continue in the league, is quickly signing 2 fully teamless players to the team so they would continue as 4 K3 players + Socke as the joker. Whatever our opinion is, it seems apparent that the communication between and with the admins was not good enough. iirc xeris played for fnatic a few times when he was their manager :D | ||
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
I think ATC is in the right; having a team that doesn't exist get into the playoffs would've made the tournament look a lot less professional. Still, the admins should have come to a unanimous decision. It makes them look about as unprofessional to have these different rulings coming down, and it's just mean to jerk these players and managers around like that | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On June 11 2013 04:04 Waxangel wrote: iirc xeris played for fnatic a few times when he was their manager :D Ryo also played for Karont3 once. I think it was in IPTL. http://aligulac.com/players/1797-Ryo/results/ Against NSHoSeo even, Brave was too good for him. | ||
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
On June 11 2013 04:05 DavoS wrote: How exactly is your SC2 division closed down if you're trying to compete in a team league still? I think ATC is in the right; having a team that doesn't exist get into the playoffs would've made the tournament look a lot less professional. Still, the admins should have come to a unanimous decision. It makes them look about as unprofessional to have these different rulings coming down, and it's just mean to jerk these players and managers around like that The clan Karont3 has closed down its SC2 division, the players and the manager (ex-Karont3) wanted to continue. It happens pretty often in teamgames (e.g. Counter-Strike). | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
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Forgottenfrog
United States1268 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 11 2013 04:04 Waxangel wrote: iirc xeris played for fnatic a few times when he was their manager :D We've all been there. ^^ On June 11 2013 04:05 DavoS wrote: How exactly is your SC2 division closed down if you're trying to compete in a team league still? I think ATC is in the right; having a team that doesn't exist get into the playoffs would've made the tournament look a lot less professional. Still, the admins should have come to a unanimous decision. It makes them look about as unprofessional to have these different rulings coming down, and it's just mean to jerk these players and managers around like that They're doing it on their own. They should just change the name of the team for a few more weeks so people don't get bothered by it because they have no affiliation to K3 anymore. | ||
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Mortal
2943 Posts
On June 11 2013 03:34 sitromit wrote: Thorzain and Sortof? What's the point of a team competition if you can just randomly recruit as many players from other teams as you want to play on your team? This is basically it. However, it brings up the problem of hiring new players for their own team period. What if players drop out, get sick/injured, or quit? Do they then just forfeit their spot? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 11 2013 04:28 Mortal wrote: This is basically it. However, it brings up the problem of hiring new players for their own team period. What if players drop out, get sick/injured, or quit? Do they then just forfeit their spot? That is pretty much what happens in every other sport if you can't field a full team. Even is weird sports like sailing, you aren't able to sail without a full crew(yes, there is an advantage to sailing with fewer people if you can pull it off). | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
By that ruling, Vortix and Lucifron should definitely not be able to play for mousesports for 2 matchdays - unless that rule only applies to mercenaries - mousesports didnt use them in week 10, lets see what week 11 brings. Not allowing thorzain and sortof on the base of having maximum 1 mercenary is understandable, but not allowing the to continue with ryo is bad form, he participated as player in other teamleagues before so he definitely qualifies as (maybe weak) player. Especially given that it the 2nd round just now starts it would distort the league way less than removing them. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
But there's no way you can keep playing in the tournament with five random guys from five different teams, it's just real weird. The right decision was made, imo, but the communication was certainly lacking. | ||
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Sepharon
Spain3 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On June 11 2013 03:46 Waxangel wrote: actually you should feel bad for all the other teams, who have losses on their records due to K3 while Liquid and Axiom do not D: id assume now that k3 is out every team gets a win against them? | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
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LordErebus
Germany157 Posts
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On June 11 2013 04:52 tree.hugger wrote: Yeah, ATC should've seen this coming and figured out an answer immediately. Boo on them for not being on top of the ball, ATC implications were among the first things I thought of when VortiX and LucifroN left. But there's no way you can keep playing in the tournament with five random guys from five different teams, it's just real weird. The right decision was made, imo, but the communication was certainly lacking. from what I understand one of the solutions was to keep playing with ryo/lolvsxd/vipro/socke(the merc) . So 3 players from former karont3 (equal to slayers or other disbanded teams finishing team leagues) and their joker they used in accordance to the rules. I dont really get why this was denied especially. I hope the results of round 1 are not removed and just round 2 is a walkover for all teams. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
It was a disgrace if they would be able to continue tbh. | ||
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