EPTEx-Karont3 removed from Acer Teamstory Cup - Page 10
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10132 Posts
On June 12 2013 06:33 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Adding players to the Karont3 squad Although it is not uncommon to lock rosters in tournaments and sports we were okay with Karont3 adding unsigned or teamless players to their official roster mid-season. The official ATC rules actually state that you can't change your roster ("A team roster is fix and can´t be changed during a season. Exceptions can only made by an admin"), so we were being generous toward Karont3 in this regard. By the way Nazgul, it is not the same as sports, because the contract periods are not really specific to any kind of seasonal league, like let's say, football. The license to recruit a few players to finish the league after the hit k3 took was the best solution in a shitty situation. But of course the admins double standards came into play (can't change rosters, allow mouz to use luci). | ||
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Big-t
Austria1350 Posts
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On June 12 2013 14:59 Gorribal wrote: Of course you'd disagree with this as it would give Karont3 a fighting chance and Liquid are already behind in the rankings. Surprised this hasn't been hit with the red text yet. It's so offensive. | ||
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PetitCop
France43 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On June 12 2013 17:35 Nekovivie wrote: Surprised this hasn't been hit with the red text yet. It's so offensive. You find that offensive? ... smh But if the mods didn't allow people like Gorribal to be snide and vent like this (as long as they keep it civil) we'd have a bunch more discussion in website feedback about censorship and bias and all that crap. So it's alright. -_- Anyway I find it suspicious that Kaoru dropped by to call a post in here retarded without really providing any substantial information from his own point of view and with regards to his own involvement in this matter. Meanwhile, Nazgul did share his side of the story.  | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
Sign up couple unknowns and no problem, borrow players that are a class above your own players from other team and we have a problem, imo. | ||
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
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zmsFlood
Finland169 Posts
 you'd think that in this era of communication professional people would not fail to communicate with each other in this way.. These kind of messes are no good for anyone | ||
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Epamynondas
387 Posts
Either way this is big bulshit, and LITERALLY any other solution would be preferrable to this, it makes the whole league look terrible. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 12 2013 07:28 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: As far as I can tell the same courtesy to add new players to their team applied to Karont3. I don't see why it would lead to whining, it's up to the admins. Okay Victor I read your two posts. Does that mean VortiX and his brother LucifroN aren't allowed to play in this tournament with Mouz considering they just joined? If that's the rule about roster freezing then I hope there is no double standard at work here. | ||
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Demicore
France503 Posts
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Epamynondas
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I have recently got into silver league and i'm skyrocketing through the ranks | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
ThorZaIN and SortOf This is what we disagreed with. Our main concern was that Karont3's players needed to actually be a part of Karont3. That meant they needed to be Karont3 not only in ATC, but other competitions as well. If they had signed teamless and unattached players, there would have been no problem. In the case of ThorZaIN and SortOf, it would have been players already playing for another team joining Karont3 only for ATC. It would have effectively been allowing 2 more 'jokers' than the ATC rules already allowed. We thought that this would go against the spirit of this tournament and were against it. This I'm not too thrilled about and here's why. The team (if you can even call it now) is no longer with K3. They have no affiliation thus I would change the team name so they don't give them any more advertising/publicity. As for the players and teams who agreed to show their support? This is pretty borderline, but considering EG was nice enough to throw them a bone and Western Wolves aren't even involved in the tournament? In the interest of competition I don't know why we wouldn't allow this team with no ties to anyone anymore play. For a 10k tournament in mid season? I'm not a big fan of double edge swords and to me this sounds like one considering the admin said they wouldn't be allowed to compete even if they found players not assigned to teams. | ||
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a3den
704 Posts
On June 12 2013 18:42 Type|NarutO wrote: I think Nazgul as speaker for Teamliquid and his / their take on it was completely justified and acceptable. I don't see how Liquid did screw K3 in any way. Ofcourse you cannot allow (not even in that exceptional case) players from other teams play for a completely foreign team. K3 could have asked BoguS and Life then. That's Acer.Kaoru's point too, he just said the same thing in French during the ATC cast. He said that, with MMA in his team, he could get any korean as a merc if he wanted too but there's no point in a clan war if it goes this way. | ||
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Ender985
Spain910 Posts
On June 12 2013 16:28 KingMel wrote: To sum up : Nazgul says he agreed to give K3 the possibility to sign 2 free agents, and also to use the manager as the player, and Kaoru doesn't want to give us his version. So again, why are they kicked out as the admins said that it was the managers that didnt want them to participate anymore ? Right now, K3 has two players : LolvsxD and Socke. Considering the rules of the Acer Team Story Cup, they need two more players as you can revive the player you want in the last match. Why aren't they able to play with 2 free agents or 1 free agent + Ryo ? This sums it up perfectly. Imho the thing is that there is only 1 unaffected team by the outcome of this decision, which is MVP, while the remaining 7 teams are going to benefit from a K3 disqualification. I am happy to hear Nazgul was ok with K3 signing some free agents to keep them in the league; and I find very strange they were denied even this possibility by the tourney admins (and ultimately TaKe). | ||
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StarStruck
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On June 12 2013 22:48 a3den wrote: That's Acer.Kaoru's point too, he just said the same thing in French during the ATC cast. He said that, with MMA in his team, he could get any korean as a merc if he wanted too but there's no point in a clan war if it goes this way. This is bush league crap. | ||
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
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