Apologies for the lateness this week, DES was a little slow and the only other souce I could find was the one we aren't allowed to use.
Note: The schedule has the single match day as Sunday this week instead of Tuesday. As a result, the Tuesday matches start 2.5 hours earlier than usual at 03:00 GMT (+00:00) (usual weekend starting time). However, the published list on DES has the normal 2/2/2/1 order. (Nevermind, they fixed it.) I'm going to trust the schedule and this post.
Match 1 (Saturday, Apr 27 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)) STX Soul vs CJ Entus
So many amazing matches. 31% mirrors, down from 47% last week, not counting ace games. About 33% is what you would expect if the matches were randomized.
Bisu should just retire and play BW like Sea is. No, really, as much as I prefer BW, I want Bisu to do well in SC2. I have my doubts that he will, though. Completely different game/race, and I do not think he is going to adapt if he has not already. Though he is always a Protoss in my heart, he could also switch to Terran. SC2 Terran suits him so much more than SC2 Protoss.
Sigh, oh have my expectations of you fallen, Bisu...
On April 25 2013 15:26 purakushi wrote: Bisu should just retire and play BW like Sea is. No, really, as much as I prefer BW, I want Bisu to do well in SC2.
I think the problem is he can't be as aggressive as he was in BW, but I'm pretty sure he's gonna adjust, its just taking him longer to get it than most. And besides I've heard that he lost the Code A qualifier because of a ling run-by and he lost to the same thing this week, so I guess he simply got off guard with his defenses.
On April 25 2013 15:26 purakushi wrote: Bisu should just retire and play BW like Sea is. No, really, as much as I prefer BW, I want Bisu to do well in SC2.
I think the problem is he can't be as aggressive as he was in BW, but I'm pretty sure he's gonna adjust, its just taking him longer to get it than most. And besides I've heard that he lost the Code A qualifier because of a ling run-by and he lost to the same thing this week, so I guess he simply got off guard with his defenses.
Yep, I am sure he feels the same way as Jangbi. In an interview after Code A qualifiers, Jangbi said he has to play defensively now, coming from aggressive BW Protoss plays. I feel most ex-BW Protoss players feel the same way. Some adjust better than others. (I know that SC2 Protoss has harassment options and MSC and whatnot, but regardless, it can not be nearly as aggressive as its BW counterpart.)
What you say may be true, but I highly doubt he will ever be even close to the best Protoss in SC2. =\ I hope he proves me wrong.
On April 25 2013 15:26 purakushi wrote: Bisu should just retire and play BW like Sea is. No, really, as much as I prefer BW, I want Bisu to do well in SC2.
I think the problem is he can't be as aggressive as he was in BW, but I'm pretty sure he's gonna adjust, its just taking him longer to get it than most. And besides I've heard that he lost the Code A qualifier because of a ling run-by and he lost to the same thing this week, so I guess he simply got off guard with his defenses.
pretty much like the Hero's way to lose. i remember Hero geting eliminate from code s or code a for many ling run by
On April 25 2013 15:37 purakushi wrote: Yep, I am sure he feels the same way as Jangbi. In an interview after Code A qualifiers, Jangbi said he has to play defensively now, coming from aggressive BW Protoss plays. I feel most ex-BW Protoss players feel the same way. Some adjust better than others. (I know that SC2 Protoss has harassment options and MSC and whatnot, but regardless, it can not be nearly as aggressive as its BW counterpart.)
What you say may be true, but I highly doubt he will ever be even close to the best Protoss in SC2. =\ I hope he proves me wrong.
I feel the same way actually, its hard to be aggressive with current SC2 Protoss, and I too was once a BW Protoss player, but sad to say, the things I did back in BW aren't as viable as they are now SC2, the new units/ buffs help and all, but they get shut down pretty easily.
Well to put things into perspective, BW Toss is closest to current Terran in sc2. And it goes not only for Bisu, but for every succesful Protoss of modern BW.
On April 25 2013 16:44 bgx wrote: Well to put things into perspective, BW Toss is closest to current Terran in sc2. And it goes not only for Bisu, but for every succesful Protoss of modern BW.
Yea, which is why a lot of people wanted Bisu to play Terran, but I believe in Bisu, I'm sure he'll figure something out. After all, he is called the revolutionist.
On April 25 2013 15:26 purakushi wrote: Bisu should just retire and play BW like Sea is. No, really, as much as I prefer BW, I want Bisu to do well in SC2.
I think the problem is he can't be as aggressive as he was in BW, but I'm pretty sure he's gonna adjust, its just taking him longer to get it than most. And besides I've heard that he lost the Code A qualifier because of a ling run-by and he lost to the same thing this week, so I guess he simply got off guard with his defenses.
Yeah well he had a head start because he started Hots beta before everyone else and his play is still pretty awful. Not only did he lose to a ling run by,but he also made such an awful decision of moving out with 1 collosus, 3sentries and 3 zealots when ALBM's big army of ling-hydra were putting on pressure in front of Bisu's base. Maybe you think he'll adjust but after seeing how horrible he played that game, i think its about time he retired..
On April 25 2013 15:26 purakushi wrote: Bisu should just retire and play BW like Sea is. No, really, as much as I prefer BW, I want Bisu to do well in SC2.
I think the problem is he can't be as aggressive as he was in BW, but I'm pretty sure he's gonna adjust, its just taking him longer to get it than most. And besides I've heard that he lost the Code A qualifier because of a ling run-by and he lost to the same thing this week, so I guess he simply got off guard with his defenses.
Yeah well he had a head start because he started Hots beta before everyone else and his play is still pretty awful. Not only did he lose to a ling run by,but he also made such an awful decision of moving out with 1 collosus, 3sentries and 3 zealots when ALBM's big army of ling-hydra were putting on pressure in front of Bisu's base. Maybe you think he'll adjust but after seeing how horrible he played that game, i think its about time he retired..
Bisu isn't know for he's decision making, out of all the players back in BW, I honestly believe, as much as it hurts as his fan, that he makes horrible decisions, a lot. The reason why he was so strong in BW was because of his Mechanical prowess.
I mean I agree that last game was horrible, using the probes to kill off the lings was a very bad decision and made him lose 15 probes in the process. Still I don't believe he should retire, like others said, people adjust in different paces.
On April 25 2013 15:26 purakushi wrote: Bisu should just retire and play BW like Sea is. No, really, as much as I prefer BW, I want Bisu to do well in SC2.
I think the problem is he can't be as aggressive as he was in BW, but I'm pretty sure he's gonna adjust, its just taking him longer to get it than most. And besides I've heard that he lost the Code A qualifier because of a ling run-by and he lost to the same thing this week, so I guess he simply got off guard with his defenses.
Yeah well he had a head start because he started Hots beta before everyone else and his play is still pretty awful. Not only did he lose to a ling run by,but he also made such an awful decision of moving out with 1 collosus, 3sentries and 3 zealots when ALBM's big army of ling-hydra were putting on pressure in front of Bisu's base. Maybe you think he'll adjust but after seeing how horrible he played that game, i think its about time he retired..
Bisu isn't know for he's decision making, out of all the players back in BW, I honestly believe, as much as it hurts as his fan, that he makes horrible decisions, a lot. The reason why he was so strong in BW was because of his Mechanical prowess.
I mean I agree that last game was horrible, using the probes to kill off the lings was a very bad decision and made him lose 15 probes in the process. Still I don't believe he should retire, like others said, people adjust in different paces.
I def. agree with your point that Bisu was rather a mechanical monster than a strategic player, But this means that there is nothing that gives him an edge and sc2 is more about decision making (especially protoss ) rather than how mechanically superior you are as a player. Im no Bisu hater, Im just way too disappointed in his play. I hope youre right though, maybe he needs more time.
EG-TL will need to go absolute beast mode to win against that Khan roster. It almost look like they got countered on all positions (at least the first four). Hoping for the upset.
On April 25 2013 20:01 illidanx wrote: lol, taeja, disappear again. Why can't you prepare for proleague and GSL at the same time? All kespa players in code S do.
I has nothing to do with PL and GSL being at the same time, it's to preserve his wrists so he can play at max level in GSL.
On April 25 2013 20:01 illidanx wrote: lol, taeja, disappear again. Why can't you prepare for proleague and GSL at the same time? All kespa players in code S do.
I has nothing to do with PL and GSL being at the same time, it's to preserve his wrists so he can play at max level in GSL.
Point taken. But at this rate, EG-TL is not going to get out of the last spot.
EGTL's match up this week does not look good. aLive and Oz are probably favored, but other four games are looking in Samsung's favor, and those are the first four games. Just hope that JD does something about his ZvP soon because he seems to autolose against half-decent forcefields
What will make this match even more difficult is that four of the guys on EGTL's line up are going to Dreamhack and will be playing in Proleague basically right after they come back from Sweden. Tough, tough week.
What the fuck kind of mentality is that. Taeja, the TEAM COMES BEFORE YOURSELF. At least he'll be well rested for his individual league matches while his team is in last place...
EPT
2012-2013 Proleague/Round 4![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/t21SI.png)
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STX Soul vs CJ Entus ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/d/dd/CJEntuslogo_std.png)
INnoVation (Bogus) < Akilon Wastes > 
EffOrt
Classic < Naro Station > ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/b/b0/Woongjinlogo_std.png)
Woongjin Stars vs SK Telecom T1 ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/0/06/SKT1logo_std.png)
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Samsung Khan vs Team 8 ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/5/5e/KeSPA_Logo_std.png)
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KT Rolster vs Team 8 ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/2/2d/Eg-Liquidlogo_std.png)
EG-Liquid vs Samsung Khan 
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