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[Interview] Thorzain on Naniwa, life as a pro, etc

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vrok
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Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 15:07:41
April 19 2013 11:34 GMT
#1
"The Swedish Championships has become a derby between us"

Article and interview with Thorzain on life as a Starcraft pro, Swedish E-sports Championships - http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/E-Sport_SM_2012-2013/Finals - and the 'rival' Naniwa on Sweden's biggest news site Aftonbladet that I decided to translate for you guys (hype!).

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Source: Aftonbladet


Pending Swedish Championships-player Thorzain has something to say about 'Naniwa'.
      But first: the bomb alarm.
      And the lasagna.


It's hard to think of 'Thorzain' without thinking of Kim Jong-un.
      Seoul glows of neon. Pyongyang is darkened. South Korea is one big cluster of gaming cafés with the world's fastest internet connections. In North Korea only parts of the elite are connected. Nowhere else is the contrast between distress and excess as sharp as on the Korean peninsula. Between the powerlessness and hopelessness of the northern side, and the ambitions and dreams of the southern, the distance is only four kilometers.
      The Swedish 'Starcraft' player Marcus 'Thorzain' Eklöf came home in March from his latest professional sojourn in South Korea. The North Korean leader Kim Jong-un - called 'The Great Successor' - had harshened his tone while Marcus was still in the country.
      - I woke up from a bomb alarm one morning. The time was barely 6 am. I was a bit disoriented. "Where am I? Oh, right, Korea." I was a bit scared at first, but no one else seemed to care.


"Not worried at all"

      Only three years ago North Korea bombed the island group of Yeonpyeong. Four people died. Despite threats from the north life in the south goes on as usual.
      - No, I never heard anyone mention anything about the conflict. You don't feel any worry at all. I wouldn't be too worried to go back, says 'Thorzain'.
      Marcus is one of biggest stars in Swedish E-sports. It's what you become after having played in the best Korean league there is. It's what you become after winning Dreamhack Open on the home field in Stockholm. The Koreans gave him a nickname, "Spoon Terran", for his methodical and thoughtful play. "Like killing someone with a spoon." I suggest to Marcus that he's one of the players where you can most clearly tell how his personality colors his playstyle. Not because he's capable of killing someone with a spoon, but because he appears wise, thoughtful and patient.
      - Yeah, that's probably accurate. I usually plan things ahead. But my way of playing probably has a lot to do with fear too. Sometimes I don't know if I'm ahead or if I'm behind. Or: I'm not sure how far ahead I am. Then it's easier to choose not to take risks.


"Would like to become a psychiatrist"

      Recently, Marcus' teammate in Evil Geniuses, the french player Ilyes 'Stephano' Satouri, announced that he was going to quit playing 'Starcraft', at only 20 years of age. And when you talk to Marcus, who is now 22, you can sense the ambivalence that often shows itself in interviews with other 'Starcraft' players. Those who understand that maybe they should start thinking about a life after E-sports.
      - My shape right now? A six or a seven. I could have been playing more than I have lately. I'm a bit rusty. I've been busy with the SATs. I would like to become a psychiatrist. I've always been very interested in psychology.
      After having been in South Korea multiple times, at one point staying and training in the legendary Slayers house, Marcus went back once more late last year. Excited for another three month stay he'd bought a Korean dictionary and a textbook to practice the language. But his energy ran low.
      - It feels good to be back home in Sweden again. I shouldn't have been in Korea as long as I was. You get tired of it after a while. All the food starts tasting the same. They're of course different dishes. But after a while you realize that it actually tastes the same.
      He got lasagna when he came home to his parents in Stockholm.


E-sports, a display window for big businesses

      In its haste to be taken seriously the E-sports industry is often looking to paint a flashy picture of young stars in a modern world. Often competing over having the largest prize pool and which players have the biggest sponsors. E-sports is an ultra commercial display window for business logos. But when the lights go out, the cameras turn off and the set is dismantled, the E-sports stars, often merely teenagers, reenter everyday life. They go back home to mom and dad and eat lasagna.
      When Marcus Eklöf was competing at Dreamhack Open in Stockholm last year he used public transportation to get to the event. Once there he entered the bubble of the world of E-sports and became the mighty 'Thorzain'. The fans held up signs with his name. He sensationally won the whole tournament by defeating the mighty Korean Choi 'Polt' Seong Hoon in the finals. In the emotinal high of victory he raised both his arms towards the sky. In the left hand holding a bottle of champagne. He can't quite remember how he got home afterwards, but it was most definitely not in a limousine.
      - I believe I used public transportation then as well.


"Quite rude in real life"

      - You have to separate all that from everyday life. Like an off switch almost. When you arrive at the competitions you're prepared for all that, you're prepared for the photographers. You're a superstar on the 'Starcraft' stage. But as soon as you get off you're Marcus Eklöf again. Even if you occasionally get recognized on the streets.

Do you feel like you adopt different personalities?
      - No, I'd say I'm probably the same person. I guess there are some that try to alter their personalities. Some are quite rude in real life.

Are you thinking of someone in particular?
      - No, I don't want to mention any names.
Now Marcus is leaving for Gothenburg to compete in the sixth Swedish Championship qualifications to reach the playoffs at Dreamhack Summer. He's the reigning Swedish champion and his participation has increased in intensity because of what happened a month ago. When his countryman Johan 'Naniwa' Lucchesi during the qualifications in Malmö was asked who is the 'King of the north' - a title both 'Naniwa' and 'Thorzain' has shared between them - Lucchesi attacked Eklöf:
      - I don't want to be compared to 'Thorzain', I think I'm much better than him. The only reason I'm playing the Swedish Championships is to beat him.


"Laughable"

You can almost hear how Marcus sighs when you recite the statement.
      - The last time we met I won. His best results have exceeded mine. But we're both very up and down when it comes to results. I don't know what he has against me because I haven't done anything to him except like... playing 'Starcraft'. I've never said anything bad about him.

But don't you become upset by hearing that kind of statement?
      - ...I'm used to it. He's been doing this for a while. I almost think it's just laughable.

Who is Sweden's best player right now?
      - It's probably 'Naniwa'. But if we'd both be in top shape then I'm not sure.

What does the Swedish Championships mean to you?
      - It means a lot now that 'Naniwa' has been making a big deal out of it. He almost made it into a Swedish derby between him and me.

It has become a competition about who is the 'King of the north'.
      - Yes, exactly.



Here's also the small Swedish Championships fact blurb and tournament schedule listed after the article:

Marcus' tough road towards a new Swedish Championship gold.

It's of course not a given that Marcus will succeed to defend his title from last year. It's not even a certainty that he'll make the playoffs. In Gothenburg on Saturday he'll be pitted against accomplished players such as Kim 'Sase' Hammar, Jeffrey 'Sjow' Brusi and Joacim 'Runa' Persson. Should Marcus lose in the qualifications in Gothenburg he'll have two more chances, in Norrköping in May and Jönköping in June.

Should he make the playoffs the stage is set for a thrilling struggle between him and Johan 'Naniwa' Lucchesi. 'Naniwa' outclassed all competition when he won the qualifications in Malmö in March.

Schedule for the qualification tournament on Saturday, Apr 20 2:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00):

14:00 GMT (+00:00) Live broadcast begins of the sixth qualification tournament of the Swedish Championships @ aftonbladet.se/spela

14:30 GMT (+00:00) Fifa 13 finals.

16:00 GMT (+00:00) Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition finals.

16:30 GMT (+00:00) Counter-Strike: Global Offensive finals.

19:00 GMT (+00:00) Starcraft II semifinal 1.

20:00 GMT (+00:00) Starcraft II semifinal 2.

21:00 GMT (+00:00) Starcraft II finals.
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Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
April 19 2013 11:42 GMT
#2
So mannered. Thorzain is really putting the sex into Starcraft.
ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
April 19 2013 11:46 GMT
#3
Intresting read. Thorzain is a really good e-sports ambassador too i like his calm style
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Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
April 19 2013 11:47 GMT
#4
So does him learning for the SATs mean that he will start studying after the summer (same as Stephano)? I hope to see some last strong months from him then.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 19 2013 11:47 GMT
#5
i don't think of kim jong un when someone says thorzain, lol
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vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
April 19 2013 11:50 GMT
#6
On April 19 2013 20:47 opterown wrote:
i don't think of kim jong un when someone says thorzain, lol

I don't think many people do, haha. It's just Aftonbladet being sensationalist. It's what they do best.
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Chewie
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark708 Posts
April 19 2013 11:54 GMT
#7
On April 19 2013 20:47 opterown wrote:
i don't think of kim jong un when someone says thorzain, lol

me neither wtf?
Teoyaomqui
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden326 Posts
April 19 2013 11:55 GMT
#8
Good read, I'll root for Thorzain.

He's the raining Swedish champion


Reigning.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
April 19 2013 11:56 GMT
#9
On April 19 2013 20:55 Teoyaomqui wrote:
Good read, I'll root for Thorzain.

Show nested quote +
He's the raining Swedish champion


Reigning.

Thanks!
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
April 19 2013 11:59 GMT
#10
any liquidpedia link to that championship?
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nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
April 19 2013 12:03 GMT
#11
Well done. Come on thorzain, give us some nerd-chills again!!
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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
April 19 2013 12:06 GMT
#12
what a well written presented piece
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vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 12:58:44
April 19 2013 12:20 GMT
#13
Added the fact blurb and qualifications tournament schedule listed after the article. Also added complete list of players already qualified for the playoffs.

On April 19 2013 20:59 Killmouse wrote:
any liquidpedia link to that championship?

Not that I know of or can find. Sorry. Someone will have to get on that. Even their own site in Swedish is very useless in this regard.

Edit: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/E-Sport_SM_2012-2013/Finals
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 19 2013 12:21 GMT
#14
On April 19 2013 21:06 igay wrote:
what a well written presented piece


Yes, very unlike Aftonbladet. Except the part about Kim Jong-un and North Korea; what the fuck is that about?
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Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
April 19 2013 12:47 GMT
#15
On April 19 2013 21:20 vrok wrote:
Added the fact blurb and qualifications tournament schedule listed after the article. Also added complete list of players already qualified for the playoffs.

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 20:59 Killmouse wrote:
any liquidpedia link to that championship?

Not that I know of or can find. Sorry. Someone will have to get on that. Even their own site in Swedish is very useless in this regard.

Here is a good link http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/E-Sport_SM_2012-2013/Finals

I hope it will be ThorZaIN vs Naniwa in the finals this year!
KaiserKieran
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States615 Posts
April 19 2013 12:48 GMT
#16
Wait so Stephano retired?
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 19 2013 12:49 GMT
#17
On April 19 2013 21:48 KaiserKieran wrote:
Wait so Stephano retired?

Wondering the same thing but I thought he said he'd retire once his current contract is up.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 12:50:12
April 19 2013 12:50 GMT
#18
It was actually very well written, far more so than anything I've ever read in Swedish and most of what I've read in english.


(For esports, that is)
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
April 19 2013 12:54 GMT
#19
On April 19 2013 20:47 opterown wrote:
i don't think of kim jong un when someone says thorzain, lol


I don't either, not to mention I've never seen anyone else make that connection before now.. >_>

It's kind of an insult to be compared to the ruler of north korea.
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
April 19 2013 12:56 GMT
#20
Well written for sure. I really like korean food. The only food that all blends together and tastes the same for me is american food. University has made me hate american food completely.
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
April 19 2013 13:34 GMT
#21
On April 19 2013 21:56 mrRoflpwn wrote:
Well written for sure. I really like korean food. The only food that all blends together and tastes the same for me is american food. University has made me hate american food completely.


If you like Korean, try Laotian. It's kind of a mix between Thai and Chinese, but spicy like Korean. Then again, I could probably eat Tom Kha soup every single day, so I'm biased.
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ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
April 20 2013 17:52 GMT
#22
Thorzain would make an excellent psychiatrist. Either that, or a spoonish supervillain
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 20 2013 17:54 GMT
#23
HAHAHAHAHA THAT FIRST LINE
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 20 2013 18:10 GMT
#24
Wait wait wait did I miss a announcement about Stephano retiring right now?
Or was it just with the info we got that he will retire at some point later this year.
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zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
April 20 2013 18:12 GMT
#25
Gl hf Thorzain, I hope to see him play Naniwa

Relevant:

Swedish esport championship [qualifier] stream: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/nojesbladetlive/nojeslive1/
Bracket: http://binarybeast.com/xHotS1304202

Thorzain vs. Sase right now in semi-final! :O
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 20 2013 21:17 GMT
#26
lol i was convinced the North Korea part was sarcasm when i read this
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 21:35:15
April 20 2013 21:34 GMT
#27
The quotes were totally taken out of context.........

An -okay- article/interview/thing. Seemed a little strange, though. It didn't really have good flow, but this is obviously a translation, so harder to tell.

Really appreciate you translating!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 22:28:29
April 20 2013 22:28 GMT
#28
oh markus <3
best psychiatrist ever
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
April 20 2013 22:33 GMT
#29
It's hard to think of 'Thorzain' without thinking of Kim Jong-un.


I... what?
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LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
April 20 2013 22:36 GMT
#30
Stephano announced his retirement? Can someone link me to the thread?
DoctorClock
Profile Joined September 2010
United States131 Posts
April 20 2013 22:40 GMT
#31
On April 19 2013 20:34 vrok wrote:
But when the lights go out, the cameras turn off and the set is dismantled, the E-sports stars, often merely teenagers, reenter everyday life. They go back home to mom and dad and eat lasagna.


This alone was worth the read in my opinion.
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
April 27 2013 08:05 GMT
#32
The interview implies that thorzain just went home by bus after winning DH. Didn't he celebrate at all? I'd hit a bar, get trashed and buy some drinks for everybody!
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 08:18:49
April 27 2013 08:18 GMT
#33
On April 21 2013 07:36 LastDance wrote:
Stephano announced his retirement? Can someone link me to the thread?

it wasnt really announced but he stated numerous times that he will continue his studies when his contract runs out which should be in about 4-6 months
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Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
April 27 2013 08:58 GMT
#34
I don't know if it was intentional or not, but the first thing that came to mind was 'there's a bomb in the lasagna'.

And why would Thorzain make me think of Kim Jong Un?
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