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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
April 18 2013 19:31 GMT
#1
A friend just linked this video to me.




i had a good laugh and it made me happy to see all the community figures applaude to this 15 year old game, but then i wondered which game are they actually referring to? The 15 years old game is obviously Starcraft 1, released in 1998. But on the other hand, people beeing shown congratulating are none beeing currently active in the Starcraft 1 scene. I didnt see Casters like Elegant or Sayle congratulate, not players like Sziky and Micheal, not Community workers like 2Pacalypse, Sethgecko or Yoda. I saw this anniversary represented in a sc2 context by sc2 people.
Many of those have played sc1 in the past, or contributed to it, but as far as i know, they dont do today.

Now, as i noticed this, i realized this isnt the first time the two titles are beeing mixed together. Oftentimes in sc2 casts, Casters generally refer to "Starcraft". Like in " this is Starcraft at it's finest, ladies and gentleman [...]" In this video, White-Ra says "happy birthday Starcraft, best game ever, still play [...]". I Wonder, which game does he actually mean? Isnt he aware those are two different games he is talking about?

As of now, im just curious, why do you think are those two titles mixed up more often than not? Don't people think, those games are wildly different, don't they care a lot about such details when referring to "their" game, or is it something else?

Discuss!


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Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
April 18 2013 19:33 GMT
#2
Happy Birthday Starcraft.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 18 2013 19:34 GMT
#3
DreamHack guys were the best, hands-down. Bravo. Those who did genuine birthdays were great, some of them felt a bit awkward or over-rehearsed/wanting to make an impression.

But the DreamHack birthday setup made me smile hard!
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 19:52:41
April 18 2013 19:49 GMT
#4
idra being idra

i'm fine with starcraft being used loosely as either the original sc, or any of sc/sc2, depending on context
white-ra here, for example, clearly means the original game saying it's still the best
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haffy
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom430 Posts
April 18 2013 19:57 GMT
#5
On April 19 2013 04:49 figq wrote:
idra being idra

i'm fine with starcraft being used loosely as either the original sc, or any of sc/sc2, depending on context
white-ra here, for example, clearly means the original game saying it's still the best


lol sad.
Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
April 18 2013 20:00 GMT
#6
They mean the franchise as a whole.
smogg
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria167 Posts
April 18 2013 20:08 GMT
#7
WHERE'S TASTELESS!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Also, ironically, I played Diablo all day on StarCraft's birthday, lol.
Still, StarCraft - best game ever. Nice vid.
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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
April 18 2013 20:15 GMT
#8
DreamHack so boss in every hype video lol

But yeah they refer to the franchise as a whole, like how there was the Legend of Zelda 25th anniversary, they meant the whole franchise, not a single installment.
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lubu42
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States314 Posts
April 18 2013 20:21 GMT
#9
I thought the video was so awesome! All the players/commentators/etc. were all saying Happy Birthday to Starcraft meaning the original :D After all it was 15 years ago that the first one came out!
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TC_Beynbio
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Norway81 Posts
April 18 2013 20:21 GMT
#10
Happy Birthday Starcraf! it's been fun playing the game!
Best game ever! Onee of the longest on going games until now and it's still the one of the best!
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 18 2013 20:22 GMT
#11
Starcraft is Starcraft. Longtime fans will appreciate the beauty of both.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 18 2013 20:24 GMT
#12
starcraft is starcraft. it will always be orcs in space...
Empedocles
Profile Joined April 2013
United States47 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 20:25:28
April 18 2013 20:24 GMT
#13
<3 SC!

P.S. i have the same bday as SC im leet :D
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 18 2013 20:32 GMT
#14
i watch entirely too much starcraft and i don't know who half the people in that video are lol. cool video though. Dreamhack "won".
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aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
April 18 2013 20:35 GMT
#15
Starcraft is a series, not a game. And starcraft as a series is 15 this year. So happy birthday Starcraft.
Wahaha
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 18 2013 20:42 GMT
#16
i dont understand people trying to separate starcraft....starcraft is starcraft.
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
April 18 2013 20:44 GMT
#17
On April 19 2013 05:22 Pokebunny wrote:
Starcraft is Starcraft. Longtime fans will appreciate the beauty of both.



Well, i'd leave that to everybody's personal preference
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 01:22:52
April 19 2013 01:11 GMT
#18
Yeah we see it in PL all the time and it's very frigging annoying. I wish they would stop the overlap and it is sad that the guys who still do it today didn't make the cut in it. It would be far more relevant but it's Blizzard and they don't know any better.

On April 19 2013 05:42 jinorazi wrote:
i dont understand people trying to separate starcraft....starcraft is starcraft.


Your stats in one game doesn't necessarily translate to the other. The BW stats should stand on their own just like the SC2 stats.

On April 19 2013 04:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
DreamHack guys were the best, hands-down. Bravo. Those who did genuine birthdays were great, some of them felt a bit awkward or over-rehearsed/wanting to make an impression.

But the DreamHack birthday setup made me smile hard!


He's making sweet love to the camera.
DenTenker
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States606 Posts
April 19 2013 01:33 GMT
#19
I refer to StarCraft I and StarCraft II collectively as "StarCraft". If further distinction is needed, I will distinguish. Usually though, I will just say, "I was playing StarCraft the other day and this game was awesome!" or something like that.
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Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
April 19 2013 01:37 GMT
#20
Happy birthday Starcraft!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
April 19 2013 01:38 GMT
#21
Maybe you weren't looking in the right places. I saw many brood war members you mentioned say their happy birthdays. Anyway you are quite late on this. I hope you can be more curt on the 20th anniversary.
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BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
April 19 2013 01:39 GMT
#22
Happy birthday Starcraft. Forever and always will be my favorite game and my main hobby. I love you <3333
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 01:47:45
April 19 2013 01:45 GMT
#23
On April 19 2013 10:38 BisuDagger wrote:
Maybe you weren't looking in the right places. I saw many brood war members you mentioned say their happy birthdays. Anyway you are quite late on this. I hope you can be more curt on the 20th anniversary.


Yes, but to be fair the link he used was technically just posted. He just caught wind of it and as for these Brood War guys. Who on the list is actually active doing stuff? Not the Devs, certainly not Leg, White-Ra, IdrA, Day[9] and the list goes on. If I were editing the video I would showcase past and present stars to let people know SC:BW & SC2 continue to go on.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
April 19 2013 01:46 GMT
#24
It is not Starcraft... It is StarCraft...
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 19 2013 01:49 GMT
#25
On April 19 2013 10:46 Seeker wrote:
It is not Starcraft... It is StarCraft...


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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 02:14:42
April 19 2013 02:01 GMT
#26
On April 19 2013 10:49 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 10:46 Seeker wrote:
It is not Starcraft... It is StarCraft...


touche'


well, if it means a lot to you: StarCraft

If I were editing the video I would showcase past and present stars to let people know SC:BW & SC2 continue to go on.
exactly that

On April 19 2013 10:38 BisuDagger wrote:
Maybe you weren't looking in the right places. I saw many brood war members you mentioned say their happy birthdays. Anyway you are quite late on this. I hope you can be more curt on the 20th anniversary.



yeah, i saw some and that was nice But i meant at that very video. Which got more exposure than the guys from BW that did.
Broodwar for life!
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 02:12:13
April 19 2013 02:05 GMT
#27
Star1 is the one true Starcraft. Long live BW~
Happy Birthday Starcraft!

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-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
April 19 2013 02:11 GMT
#28
I am happy to share birthdays :D
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
April 19 2013 02:14 GMT
#29
the reason you didn't see any of the people you mentioned is because they're irrelevant

and i'm not trying to be mean

but when was the last time any of them were on stage at a live event? when was the last time they were even within a mile of a blizzard employee? How many of them have even talked to a blizzard employee or been near a camera not plugged into their own computer?

Don't get me wrong, I love based sayle especially, but if you think about why they weren't in the video the answer is pretty obvious..
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 02:18:32
April 19 2013 02:17 GMT
#30
On April 19 2013 11:14 darkscream wrote:
the reason you didn't see any of the people you mentioned is because they're irrelevant

and i'm not trying to be mean

but when was the last time any of them were on stage at a live event? when was the last time they were even within a mile of a blizzard employee? How many of them have even talked to a blizzard employee or been near a camera not plugged into their own computer?

Don't get me wrong, I love based sayle especially, but if you think about why they weren't in the video the answer is pretty obvious..


well, they are more relevant for the mentioned game who had 15th anniversary. I dont want to be rude either, but some random BW mod does more for that game, of which 15th was celebrated than all that other guys together. Its a matter of focus: StarCraft 1 got 15, StarCraft 2 people get dsiplayed. They dont do anything for that game today anymore.

So i dont see why they should be on the front line ?
Broodwar for life!
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 19 2013 02:27 GMT
#31
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Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 02:44:18
April 19 2013 02:37 GMT
#32
Everybody playing, watching, and being a fan of either SC:BW and SC2 are all part of the collective "StarCraft" entity. I personally loved the TeSL guys the best!

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MarkCJ
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada239 Posts
April 19 2013 02:47 GMT
#33
shame on you husky for forgetting!
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Typhoon1789
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia292 Posts
April 19 2013 02:48 GMT
#34
<33333 starcraft.
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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
April 19 2013 02:51 GMT
#35
Calling it now, the HotS and LotV will be dominated by a guy born on the same day StarCraft was released.
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c0ldwinter
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States238 Posts
April 19 2013 02:52 GMT
#36
Happy birthday Starcraft!
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
April 19 2013 02:53 GMT
#37
Watched it 4 times, can't find Idra... Can someone tell me what time he appears?
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LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
April 19 2013 02:56 GMT
#38
lol the dude yelling 生日快樂 at 1:53 xDD

c0ldwinter
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States238 Posts
April 19 2013 02:58 GMT
#39
IdrA is at 2:14
AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
April 19 2013 03:00 GMT
#40
They're the same franchise, thus "Happy birthday, Starcraft."
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Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
April 19 2013 03:01 GMT
#41
ohhhh idra
Jaedong.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 19 2013 03:06 GMT
#42
On April 19 2013 11:53 rel wrote:
Watched it 4 times, can't find Idra... Can someone tell me what time he appears?

2:15
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
April 19 2013 03:10 GMT
#43
Idra is the Kristen Stewart of the Starcraft universe
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Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
April 19 2013 03:30 GMT
#44
Nice vid!
I didn't know there were so many international personalities
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
April 19 2013 03:38 GMT
#45
Thanks guys.
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a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
April 19 2013 03:41 GMT
#46
starcraft the franchise..
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Germany43 Posts
April 20 2013 10:41 GMT
#47
Idra killed me xD
awwwww shiiiiieeet :3
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 10:49:09
April 20 2013 10:48 GMT
#48
Clearly just the first game! That video was a little bit too painful to watch it all though lol
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