EPTEnjoy!
Damn, Ragnarok is FAST! APM video inside!
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Khaldor
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NovemberstOrm
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edit: you should have just 1 thread to put all your wcs code a qualifier videos in. | ||
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achan1058
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Edit: No, I originally did not intend to say that Losira is faster, but just that it came into my mind when I saw the video. Now that it has been said, I just got to know who's the fastest player in the IM house. | ||
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:08 Khaldor wrote: Was wondering how long it would take for someone to shout "NO! THIS GUY IS FASTER". Congratulations, you are the one. Guess if nobody can beat Losira I should just stop recording videos like this from other players? Well he didnt say it in a bad way, more like informing people that losiras hands are still the sexiest thing ever to watch :p | ||
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jcroisdale
United States1543 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:13 IcedBacon wrote: Well he didnt say it in a bad way, more like informing people that losiras hands are still the sexiest thing ever to watch :p Exactly you didn't post the video thinking he was the fastest and I didn't watch it expecting him to be the fastest. You created a thread about a guy with fast hands, I added to the thread. | ||
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Chubz
France119 Posts
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ssg
United States1773 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:08 Khaldor wrote: Was wondering how long it would take for someone to shout "NO! THIS GUY IS FASTER". Congratulations, you are the one. Guess if nobody can beat Losira I should just stop recording videos like this from other players? No need to be a dick. | ||
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lubu42
United States314 Posts
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Prevolved
United States573 Posts
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WikidSik
Canada382 Posts
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Khaldor
Germany861 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:18 Chubz wrote: Wow you've been pretty aggressive Khaldor here o_o I'm annoyed. Spending a shit-ton of time recording and editing those vids and the first thing that happens is always the same: "No, watch this guy, he's even better!!!!!". And yes, that might sound petty but if you've ever experienced it you get what I mean. | ||
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Rulker
United States1477 Posts
Lashing out against forum posters isn't productive  . | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:08 Khaldor wrote: Was wondering how long it would take for someone to shout "NO! THIS GUY IS FASTER". Congratulations, you are the one. Guess if nobody can beat Losira I should just stop recording videos like this from other players? Well that was extremely aggressive. Oh, and if you attempt to market your work under the sensationalist title APM VIDEO INSIDE! obviously people are going to post relevant and like-minded videos... | ||
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eric237
Canada40 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:08 Khaldor wrote: Was wondering how long it would take for someone to shout "NO! THIS GUY IS FASTER". Congratulations, you are the one. Guess if nobody can beat Losira I should just stop recording videos like this from other players? That escalated quickly. Chill out bro. | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:26 nvs. wrote: Well that was extremely aggressive. Oh, and if you attempt to market your work under the sensationalist title APM VIDEO INSIDE! obviously people are going to post relevant and like-minded videos... Bro do you even lift? Ahem, shut up guys let's not make a big deal out of this lol. Ragnarok is fucking fast as hell. Note the unit panel, you can see how good he is about spending his larva, etc. He doesn't use a special hotkey technique to inject his hatches either he just hammers it out lol. Good example of a pro playing super seriously. I don't think he'd be bouncing around his keyboard like that with such force in a more casual setting. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
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Torte de Lini
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BearStorm
United States795 Posts
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:08 Khaldor wrote: Was wondering how long it would take for someone to shout "NO! THIS GUY IS FASTER". Congratulations, you are the one. Guess if nobody can beat Losira I should just stop recording videos like this from other players? I think you definitely over reacted about a none harmless comment. Still though, thank you for the consistent content you have been providing. I really like the insight these type of videos provide. | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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Khaldor
Germany861 Posts
Would be nice if this thread would focus more on Ragnoroks play than my comment -.- | ||
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edwahn
New Zealand121 Posts
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
Also Losira's hands were only shown at the beginning of the match, where one can freely spam APM's. His APM/hand-speed is much lower afterwards. | ||
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jcroisdale
United States1543 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:39 Khaldor wrote: Alright, just to make sure this doesnt get out of hand. I never called him an asshole or anything. It's just a bit annoying because of the time you spend and the first thing that happens is another video being linked. It can get annoying therefore the reaction. As to why the title in this video is sensationalist to someone I can't say, my problem was that I couldnt go for my "normal" title because of the character restriction. Would be nice if this thread would focus more on Ragnoroks play than my comment -.- Don't worry I didn't take offense and other people shouldn't make it a big deal. On a related note, out of all the players you watched during the prelims was Ragnarok that fastest? If so by how much? | ||
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Khaldor
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Pufftrees
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I really wish you would add some supporting text with this though. I mean I know its just "wow this guy is fast, check it out!"... and thats great. I love it! But if you just added a little backstory behind him or something personal, it would add a lot. I don't have enough time to follow the Code A Quals... I honestly have no idea how well this guy even did or anything. Did you talk to him at all? Is he advancing? Were others watching? Few quick sentences in the OP would help. Thanks again | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
and it'll be me. i will dethrone nal_ra. | ||
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ROOTIllusion
United States1060 Posts
*whose this right next t-- oh shit camera, let me go look back at my screen" | ||
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Khaldor
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forsooth
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Prplppleatr
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sparklyresidue
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Wafflelisk
Canada1061 Posts
(over the shoulder videos of Code A qualifiers are some of my favourite SC2 related things, this coming from a guy who even skips a lot of recommended tournament vods) | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
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L0L
United States176 Posts
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skyflyfish
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Khaldor
Germany861 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:58 L0L wrote: Khaldor is dragon playing today? Yes, but I don't know if he's playing in the morning or afternoon group | ||
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waylander_
United States82 Posts
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FalconPunch
United States134 Posts
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:50 forsooth wrote: Word is that Yoda is extremely fast as well, it'd be interesting if we could get footage of him playing sometime. Those are some pretty fast hands on Ragnarok, makes me wish I could play at that speed. The fastest I've seen in person was Jaedong at MLG last year. In terms of eapm I've never seen higher, both from bw pros and sc2 pros. On topic, theres always something beautiful in watching someone super fast play :D | ||
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Csong
Canada396 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Northern_iight
Canada363 Posts
I was wondering if he used those screen shot camera keys at all? It seemed like he just cycle through his bases with each base on a control group key. Alot of korean zergs tend to do that instead of using the f1-f4 keys for base cams. On jaedong's stream, he also just use control group keys for the queens to cycle to each base. Any input on this? | ||
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Iwik
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On April 11 2013 10:08 opterown wrote: i hope this doesn't offend anyone haha but khaldor reminds me of an older seeker :p Holy shit he does lol. We need a blog stat. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:08 Khaldor wrote: Was wondering how long it would take for someone to shout "NO! THIS GUY IS FASTER". Congratulations, you are the one. Guess if nobody can beat Losira I should just stop recording videos like this from other players? Comparing Bomber to Flash when talking about macro doesn't make people think less of either player. Not everyone on the internet has malicious intent in every comment. | ||
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divito
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Slardar
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L0L
United States176 Posts
On April 11 2013 10:00 Khaldor wrote: Yes, but I don't know if he's playing in the morning or afternoon group Thank you! Good guy Khaldor. I don't know what these other guys are complaining about. | ||
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Mellon
Sweden917 Posts
But i don't understand how you can take offense about anything in this thread? Seems abit over sensitive, this is the internet and reading the comments, they are all pretty friendly, even the "worst" ones. Nevertheless, keep on bringing this content it's really nice to see | ||
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France17 Posts
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United States461 Posts
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LimitSEA
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Necosarius
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[GS]PLACiD
Belgium33 Posts
Anyways, your content's always amazing no matter what anyone says, which includes this video. Oh btw, I PM'd you Khaldor regarding the music on your stream. | ||
InsidiA
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BigFan
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Jmanthedragonguy
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beradical
United States38 Posts
Made me seriously laugh out loud. Had to show my roomate, lol | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:48 jinorazi wrote: one day, i wish to see a video titled "slowest progamer ever!" and it'll be me. i will dethrone nal_ra. The rise of nal_razi . | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Watching videos like this just makes me want to lie down and think about my life or some shit. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
HOLY SHIT Ragnarok is fast, and thank you Khaldor :D Onto my less enthusiastic original post: On April 11 2013 09:24 Khaldor wrote: I'm annoyed. Spending a shit-ton of time recording and editing those vids and the first thing that happens is always the same: "No, watch this guy, he's even better!!!!!". And yes, that might sound petty but if you've ever experienced it you get what I mean. Or you could understand that the guy was just trying to link a funny and relevant video. You could have the open-mindedness to figure out that he was not attacking you nor Ragnarok. It meant "Hey guys, remember that cool Losira hands video, well this Ragnarok video reminds me of this, and here's the link" and not "Khaldor you're worthless". But yeah, that's a lot of stuff to figure out, it's easier and cooler to trash some random forum guy. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
On April 11 2013 10:08 opterown wrote: i hope this doesn't offend anyone haha but khaldor reminds me of an older seeker :p What do you mean by that? | ||
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Cyro
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LTY
United States223 Posts
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Kim Hyuna
Korea (South)264 Posts
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Griffins
United States98 Posts
Thanks, Khaldor, for covering the qualifiers. | ||
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Indrium
United States2236 Posts
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Azurues
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
On April 11 2013 13:09 Azurues wrote: what's the drink next to ragnarok? Not sure, but I want what he has! | ||
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Leach
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
On April 11 2013 13:09 Azurues wrote: what's the drink next to ragnarok? Some kind of coffee i think... | ||
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Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
Yea haha. Ediya + Show Spoiler + Ragnarok y u no support MangoSix! Haha | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On April 11 2013 14:19 Weirdkid wrote: Yea haha. Ediya + Show Spoiler + Ragnarok y u no support MangoSix! Haha LG-IM has more sponsors then GSL But yeah great handspeed, not the beauty like LosirA's hands but we can't all be a pianist :D | ||
GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:18 Chubz wrote: Wow you've been pretty aggressive Khaldor here o_o I've seen people be more aggressive. You should reply to them instead. | ||
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Fyodor
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On April 12 2013 02:04 DavoS wrote: It has to be steroids or something. It HAS to be dont poke the bear that doesnt sleep | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Ragnarok is my pick for next zerg bonjwa :p. and this time...it means something xD He may not turn out to be Life good but I do think he'll reach code S this year. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
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I'm sure it's Mangosix coffee^^ As for the whole spat with Khaldor. It's not all that dissimilar to what happened at a Korean weekly cast about a year ago. Khaldor is a bit, well, testy. And people don't like such an attitude. I can see Khaldor's side of this. That video might distract people from clicking on his content which directly reduces his bread and butter, and perhaps gives a bit of a hit to his professional pride because people don't appreciate his content as much. And I guess all of us want to give Khaldor both of those things as much as possible as then he is more likely to put out more of this kind of awesome content. On the other hand, people like other kinds of stuff. I actually watched both the Ragnarok and Losira videos (hadn't seen Losiracat's finger magic before), so I appreciated both of them. Others might not click on the Ragnarok video at all, perhaps. It's unfortunate, but I'd prefer if these kinds of forum threads would expand with additional related content because form, as someone lured in by the title, the more content there is the more fun it is for me. So, I'd really wish Khaldor could a middle road where he doesn't get annoyed and we still get all the cool stuff. | ||
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Kasaraki
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On April 11 2013 10:08 opterown wrote: i hope this doesn't offend anyone haha but khaldor reminds me of an older seeker :p Hah! I know exactly what you mean. That's eerie. And yeah wow, Ragnarok is pretty damn fast. I love that clicking sound. | ||
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Mortal
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Treehead
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On April 12 2013 02:48 Mortal wrote: idk, there are a lot of players that play fast, if not faster than ragnarok. Obviously you can cite the LosirA video, but there are plenty others that play just as fast. Although he is a great player! just not impressively fast comparatively. I know what you mean. I was watching speed skating during the Olympics last year, and this guy who won the gold was acting like he was good or something, but he didn't even hold the world record. He wasn't even top 10. I mean, where do you get off thinking you're even worth watching, Apollo Ohno? | ||
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Mortal
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On April 12 2013 03:41 Treehead wrote: I know what you mean. I was watching speed skating during the Olympics last year, and this guy who won the gold was acting like he was good or something, but he didn't even hold the world record. He wasn't even top 10. I mean, where do you get off thinking you're even worth watching, Apollo Ohno? nevermind, not even worth the time. | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
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iMOOrtal
Canada144 Posts
Awesome, thanks for killing a few minutes of my shift at work! Keep them coming Khaldor. | ||
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Khaldor
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-Kaiser-
Canada932 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:08 Khaldor wrote: Was wondering how long it would take for someone to shout "NO! THIS GUY IS FASTER". Congratulations, you are the one. Guess if nobody can beat Losira I should just stop recording videos like this from other players? Dude...chill the hell out. He just said it reminds him of Losira. Wtf? | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3575 Posts
On April 12 2013 10:12 -Kaiser- wrote: Dude...chill the hell out. He just said it reminds him of Losira. Wtf? Drama over. Move on. | ||
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Khaldor
Germany861 Posts
On April 12 2013 10:12 -Kaiser- wrote: Dude...chill the hell out. He just said it reminds him of Losira. Wtf? Dude...chill the hell out. Just read the rest of the comments. Wtf? | ||
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Applesmack
Canada680 Posts
On April 11 2013 08:57 Khaldor wrote: Recorded it yesterday at the WCS Challenger League Qualifier in Seoul, Korea. Have some more that I will upload soon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXg3VqmNhpM Enjoy! If that is how a Code B player looks like then foreigners are doomed. | ||
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-IeZaeL-
Spain327 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:33 Applesmack wrote: If that is how a Code B player looks like then foreigners are doomed. ??? u are totally wrong .... xD Im mid GM in Europe and OFC Ragnarok is better than me...but im sure i have the same APM ;S...even more. Im sure that a top GM in Europe or NA is able to play with 250-300 APM a 20-40Min game... ♥ ! | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On April 12 2013 13:16 -IeZaeL- wrote: ??? u are totally wrong .... xD Im mid GM in Europe and OFC Ragnarok is better than me...but im sure i have the same APM ;S...even more. Im sure that a top GM in Europe or NA is able to play with 250-300 APM a 20-40Min game... ♥ ! I'm masters with 40 apm so obviously my e-penis is the longest FPVods always awesome! I wish more people had Khaldros extremely huge and rippling biceps. I mean passion. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
He means, you're quick to snap, get angry and take offense to comments and make things a bigger deal than it is. Khaldor is always aggressive in comments to things criticizing him. I don't really have a problem with that because it's natural to get mad at criticism. Everyone handles criticism differently. However, I did lose a lot of respect for khaldor over the way he treated dragon in the code a qualifies and by how much he hates dragon. Threatening not to stream dragon just because his fans were spamming chat was immature because dragon can't control that, so don't take it out on him. Khaldor also hates how dragon is an entertainer and runs a fun stream. Hanzo @HanzoSC2 26 Mar Wow,@_sc2dragon reaching GM on a new account within the day... Impressive. In 2 years I've only reached gold. Yeah, I suck. Thomas Kilian @Khaldor @HanzoSC2 You actually watch Dragon??? I think I just lost all the respect I had for you :-( | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:33 Applesmack wrote: If that is how a Code B player looks like then foreigners are doomed. he's not code B anymore ;p | ||
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Cortza
South Africa328 Posts
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WhiteSatin
United States308 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:06 jcroisdale wrote: No man can beat Spider Hands. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4UTDudShDY i gotta agree this one is still unrivaled... jesus christ losira lol | ||
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Al Bundy
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On April 12 2013 14:46 Cortza wrote: I wanna know who's the slowest korean pro TSL Uniden, for sure. | ||
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TritaN
United States406 Posts
Thomas Kilian @Khaldor @HanzoSC2 You actually watch Dragon??? I think I just lost all the respect I had for you :-( Wait... He seriously said that? Dragon is one of the nicest dudes in eSports, he truly loves the game and his fans and he's fun to watch. The fact that Khaldor disrespected him like that.. I don't even know what to say. | ||
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Khaldor
Germany861 Posts
You guys are seriously fucked up. Get off your high horse, it's simply emberassing at this point. Dude spends his entire free time to give you content despite you acting like juvenile kids and you are still finding a reason to go on your hate trips. Unbelievable. I really don't understand how your brains work. And also not why I keep spending my freetime for people like this. | ||
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Mortal
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On April 12 2013 15:11 Khaldor wrote: So even after I interviewed Dragon, casted his game (which I could have easily avoided) AND recorded a FP POV video of him you still go on your little hate rants? Not to mention I had to endure all the shit that Dragon "fans" pulled not only in my streamchat (without me even doing a thing to provoke them) and on Bnet? And btw. a person can very well control the behaviour of his/her fans to a certain extent. You guys are seriously fucked up. Get off your high horse, it's simply emberassing at this point. Dude spends his entire free time to give you content despite you acting like juvenile kids and you are still finding a reason to go on your hate trips. Unbelievable. I really don't understand how your brains work. And also not why I keep spending my freetime for people like this. Trying to please everyone is a completely fruitless venture. You put out the content, those that like it will say they do, and the (usual) minority will be more vocal because that's how they are. Can't make everyone happy, that's like day 1 in content production school- can that be a thing btw? | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On April 12 2013 15:48 Ghanburighan wrote: Calling people fucked up, juvenile and generalizing over everyone is probably not going to yield a nice mature relationship with your own fan-base. To be fair Khaldor did carry his own desktop computer from his house to Shindorim to cast Code B. Code B LR threads are usually just a bunch of lunatics F5ing and stalking bnet accounts. Instead we got live updates and got to watch a few games. He did it out of his own volition, unpaid, during his free time. He can shit on whoever he wants in his free time, on his own stream. And Dragon fans really were horrible in chat, and they are lucky Khaldor still gave in and casted a game (where he got mauled by an amateur). Edit: I'd rather Khaldor insult me and call me names on an internet forum than not to get to watch Code B. For all I care he can do whatever he wants as long as I get me some Code B action. | ||
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
I would enjoy more of this stuff if you can get it. BTW is that some sort of mouse cord stabilizer on his his mousepad, it's kinda hard to tell. | ||
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Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
On April 12 2013 16:03 ladyumbra wrote: I imagine he and Losira have some truly epic in house ZvZ practice going on, fingers flying everywhere ^-^. Nestea probably napping while the kids play. I would enjoy more of this stuff if you can get it. BTW is that some sort of mouse cord stabilizer on his his mousepad, it's kinda hard to tell. It's called a mouse bungee Mainly to control the cord so it doesn't get in the way | ||
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Deleted User 137586
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On April 12 2013 16:00 Khaldor wrote: I quite obviously addressed my post to a very specific group. But you are quite obviously just another troll/hater. I keep being reminded why I told myself to limit the amount of posts here to an absolute minimum. Thanks for the reminder, I'll follow my own advice now. Aaaand an insult. Thanks. Look, you're being rude. It might be acceptable to some (hell, I might be one of them as I watch most things you do) but please listen to common sense. Swearing and calling people whatever is going to making things more difficult for you. And it's not an internet thing. Can you imagine calling me juvenile, a hater or a troll to my face? No, right. It's not part of civil conversation. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On April 11 2013 08:59 WikidSik wrote: y not use the sc2 themes D: Because the Terran SC1 music is the best music in the StarCraft series. Deal with it. BTW this is awesome Khaldor, thanks a lot for making content like this. I knew Ragnarok was good but damn... hopefully he'll tear some nerds up in Code A. ^^ | ||
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hns
Germany609 Posts
), chill out and don't let those guys get the better of you, in particular because there's a whole lot of very grateful guys around here who'd certainly miss your efforts. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
On April 12 2013 14:31 Canucklehead wrote: He means, you're quick to snap, get angry and take offense to comments and make things a bigger deal than it is. Khaldor is always aggressive in comments to things criticizing him. I don't really have a problem with that because it's natural to get mad at criticism. Everyone handles criticism differently. -__-;; No I don't. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:39 Khaldor wrote: Alright, just to make sure this doesnt get out of hand. I never called him an asshole or anything. It's just a bit annoying because of the time you spend and the first thing that happens is another video being linked. Dude that's called sharing stuff ? It's like people who never let others talk listening to their ownself talking. But then it's part of your job so can't really blame you on that tho -_- | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
On April 12 2013 16:00 Khaldor wrote: I quite obviously addressed my post to a very specific group. But you are quite obviously just another troll/hater. I keep being reminded why I told myself to limit the amount of posts here to an absolute minimum. Thanks for the reminder, I'll follow my own advice now. Look, I like you. I like your channel, I'm a subscriber on your Youtube and Twitter and I watch as much GSTL as I can. I might've even met you once or twice at GSTL to say hi. But you're in the entertainment business. Sure, this is something that isn't broadcasted, and I understand that you work very hard to put out this material, but you need thicker skin and not to snap at other people, no matter who's in the right or wrong. Because at the end of the day, even if they posted it maliciously (which it wasn't), you're the one in the public eye and you only will get hurt for acting out. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On April 12 2013 19:24 Chaggi wrote: Look, I like you. I like your channel, I'm a subscriber on your Youtube and Twitter and I watch as much GSTL as I can. I might've even met you once or twice at GSTL to say hi. But you're in the entertainment business. Sure, this is something that isn't broadcasted, and I understand that you work very hard to put out this material, but you need thicker skin and not to snap at other people, no matter who's in the right or wrong. Because at the end of the day, even if they posted it maliciously (which it wasn't), you're the one in the public eye and you only will get hurt for acting out. I don't think Khaldor needs your advice. | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
On April 12 2013 20:51 HornyHerring wrote: And then their career ends with RSI. :< Rofl, tell me one progamer that have RSI in the "keyboard hand" by having high apm. It's always the mouse hand because they have bad posture and put alot of pressure and strain the wrist. | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
Considering he snapped at something that wasn't there, I'd say he could probably use it. If he doesn't want it, he doesn't have to listen. Just like basically everyone else here, I'm not someone in the community that has done anything and I have nothing to lose by speaking out. | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
You don't, but you did | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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WhiteSatin
United States308 Posts
ahaha I thank you for all the translations you do A LOT... but indeed you did my friend | ||
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Miaaw
United Kingdom21 Posts
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
On April 12 2013 21:31 FeyFey wrote: I like Khaldor because he does what he does, including to tell people if they are being idiots. Wish more would do it ... because they need to be reminded sometimes or they get worse. As long as someone doesn't say that every viewer is an idiot and their opinions are meaningless all is fine. Haha, this whole thread is a laughing fest because of Khaldor's snapping at something that clearly was not there. I think this thread is funny. Yes, keep telling your public how idiot they are, when snapping like this ^^ Bottom line however, I dont mind. We must allow ourself to snap. Khaldor's effort is still recoqnized, and is still appreciated. As a reader and watcher of Khaldor's work, I choose to just appreciate what was given to us. Thank you for sharing Khaldor. | ||
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DenTenker
United States606 Posts
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Sjokola
Netherlands800 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On April 12 2013 21:43 Miaaw wrote: That totally reminded me of this: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkyZGZRnQb4 haha I thought the same thing. Still doesn't have anything on Losira hands :p! His hands are like tap dancing spiders | ||
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namste
Finland2292 Posts
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
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TritaN
United States406 Posts
On April 12 2013 15:11 Khaldor wrote: So even after I interviewed Dragon, casted his game (which I could have easily avoided) AND recorded a FP POV video of him you still go on your little hate rants? Not to mention I had to endure all the shit that Dragon "fans" pulled not only in my streamchat (without me even doing a thing to provoke them) and on Bnet? And btw. a person can very well control the behaviour of his/her fans to a certain extent. You guys are seriously fucked up. Get off your high horse, it's simply emberassing at this point. Dude spends his entire free time to give you content despite you acting like juvenile kids and you are still finding a reason to go on your hate trips. Unbelievable. I really don't understand how your brains work. And also not why I keep spending my freetime for people like this. Ok Khaldor, let me explain it this way. Lets say that there is a person who loves SC2 and really appreciates the content that you, Khaldor, produce for the community. It is awesome. Lets also say that the same person watches streams regularly, and enjoys watching Dragon stream from time to time. What will that person think when they read a tweet from you saying, basically, that you have no respect for anyone who watches Dragon stream? Won't that person be a bit confused? This is the situation I am in. I hope you understand. | ||
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
I don't think Chaggi needs your advice | ||
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.Wraath
United States262 Posts
I don't think Grumbels needs your advice | ||
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
Clever mate | ||
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Joedaddy
United States1948 Posts
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
Is that an advice? because he sure doesn't need your advice Crazy fast player hands are always good to watch in awe! But don't be mad if someone posts another YT video. Just seems like youre in for some views on your channel and not to spread the word of Ragnarok (haha!) | ||
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habeck
1120 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:08 Khaldor wrote: Was wondering how long it would take for someone to shout "NO! THIS GUY IS FASTER". Congratulations, you are the one. Guess if nobody can beat Losira I should just stop recording videos like this from other players? Overreacting a bit? I like you as a caster, Khaldor, but no need to be so angry for no reason, that guy didnt mean anyting bad. | ||
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shivver
United States232 Posts
Now I just quietly and smoothly go from one needed action to the next, similar to goody is known for I suppose. Have done this for a while, I see no difference and no advantage as to slamming buttons down repeatedly for no reason at all. If anything, you're just putting "miles" on your fingers and hands | ||
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
On April 12 2013 23:39 shivver wrote: I really don't understand why people spam like this anymore. I did it for a while approaching 300 APM before I finally just sat back and wondered.. "why the fuk am I even doing this for" Now I just quietly and smoothly go from one needed action to the next, similar to goody is known for I suppose. Have done this for a while, I see no difference and no advantage as to slamming buttons down repeatedly for no reason at all. If anything, you're just putting "miles" on your fingers and hands You dont play zerg | ||
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dreamseller
Australia914 Posts
Thanks for the video, hadn't had the opportunity to see his hands because the production fails at tourneys and rag doesn't stream | ||
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dreamseller
Australia914 Posts
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mute20
Canada175 Posts
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haffy
United Kingdom430 Posts
On April 12 2013 23:39 shivver wrote: I really don't understand why people spam like this anymore. I did it for a while approaching 300 APM before I finally just sat back and wondered.. "why the fuk am I even doing this for" Now I just quietly and smoothly go from one needed action to the next, similar to goody is known for I suppose. Have done this for a while, I see no difference and no advantage as to slamming buttons down repeatedly for no reason at all. If anything, you're just putting "miles" on your fingers and hands Consistently making fast paced decisions through out the game is probably helpful. It might not be necessary to do, especially early game, but it's still practicing something that's difficult. If you look at what Ragnorak is doing, constantly switching screens and focus, that's impressive and worth doing. Constantly right clicking move command isn't, to me anyway. | ||
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xwoGworwaTsx
United States984 Posts
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On April 12 2013 23:54 haffy wrote: Consistently making fast paced decisions through out the game is probably helpful. It might not be necessary to do, especially early game, but it's still practicing something that's difficult. If you look at what Ragnorak is doing, constantly switching screens and focus, that's impressive and worth doing. Constantly right clicking move command isn't, to me anyway. First; thanks for the video Khaldor. Second; yes, but. Look at musicians sure they COULD play faster but would it still sound good? Same goes for SC2, as long as your decision making and strategy doesn't suffer under your constant spaming its fine. In sc2 spamming isn't as needed as it was in BW due to hotkeying production buildings etc. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On April 13 2013 00:06 bluQ wrote: First; thanks for the video Khaldor. Second; yes, but. Look at musicians sure they COULD play faster but would it still sound good? Same goes for SC2, as long as your decision making and strategy doesn't suffer under your constant spaming its fine. In sc2 spamming isn't as needed as it was in BW due to hotkeying production buildings etc. That is a silly comparison cause with music playing faster then intended it would simply sound bad. With sc2 you suddenly don't play worse when you play faster. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On April 13 2013 00:26 Assirra wrote: That is a silly comparison cause with music playing faster then intended it would simply sound bad. With sc2 you suddenly don't play worse when you play faster. And the fact that there is no realistic mechanical skill ceiling in SC2 (sure BW's was higher, but comparing infinites is pointless unless you're a mathematician) means that having more effective APM (effective, not spam) will make you better. A simple example: more APM can allow you to have better splitting, since you can move marines/lings/whatevs in smaller groups for a better spread. No progamer will ever reach the point where he can individually micro dozens of marines against banelings. There is no ceiling, only endless space. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
On April 12 2013 21:32 WhiteSatin wrote: ahaha I thank you for all the translations you do A LOT... but indeed you did my friend Did being the keyword, am I right?  | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
Haha, I like your translations (when you don't add your personal notes to them without warning) and you don't snap at people as much as you did in the past. How do you think that whole wozzot stuff got started? Didn't he say he specifically riled you up because you were so easy to provoke or something like that? You were quick to snap at people if they criticized your translations. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
On April 13 2013 02:36 Canucklehead wrote: Haha, I like your translations (when you don't add your personal notes to them without warning) and you don't snap at people as much as you did in the past. How do you think that whole wozzot stuff got started? Didn't he say he specifically riled you up because you were so easy to provoke or something like that? You were quick to snap at people if they criticized your translations. I don't want to derail this thread any further so I'm just going to smile and admit that you are right about that.I've gotten loads better though. I'm not such an emotional wreck anymore. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On April 13 2013 02:53 Seeker wrote: I don't want to derail this thread any further so I'm just going to smile and admit that you are right about that.I've gotten loads better though. I'm not such an emotional wreck anymore. It's ok man. At least you didn't go full milkis on us and you're still here. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
On April 13 2013 00:06 bluQ wrote: First; thanks for the video Khaldor. Second; yes, but. Look at musicians sure they COULD play faster but would it still sound good? Same goes for SC2, as long as your decision making and strategy doesn't suffer under your constant spaming its fine. In sc2 spamming isn't as needed as it was in BW due to hotkeying production buildings etc. That is a bad comparison. If you speed up your game play in sc2, you could still get the same result. I.E right clicking somewhere faster doesnt change how fast the marine moves. But if you play music faster, the tempo changes and it sounds differently. To make youre comparison more accurate would be if we were to build something faster, lets say an ovie at 8 instead of 9, then yes, the game and build order would be different. | ||
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shivver
United States232 Posts
I still think that the only thing you're doing by spamming hard at the start of a game is wearing yourself out needlessly. I'm just a nobody though, my opinion means nothing and I'm sure they all do it for reasons beyond what I and maybe many of us are capable of comprehending. I remember when Mvp streamed a few times, he wasn't really spamming AT ALL. While he does seem to do it in his tourneys, in a lot of those games I took notice that he was being extremely methodical with what he was doing with no wasted movements. | ||
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
On April 13 2013 00:06 bluQ wrote: First; thanks for the video Khaldor. Second; yes, but. Look at musicians sure they COULD play faster but would it still sound good? Same goes for SC2, as long as your decision making and strategy doesn't suffer under your constant spaming its fine. In sc2 spamming isn't as needed as it was in BW due to hotkeying production buildings etc. I agree with you. If those APMs would be made to split and control armies better while at the same time injecting, spreading creep, upgrades, new buildings, I would understand. This is just jumping back to hatcheries every few seconds for no reason. You also have minimap to check for armymovement. Anyway, would be nice to instead of speculating, to actually have some pros shed some light on this. When people's wrist hurt, get injured, and seeing this, it makes you wonder. And no, I dont buy the warm-up (unless first 10-30 minutes of the day). I've played instruments, and never have I seen someone spam their instrument to death before every new piece of music as "warm-up". I think Day9 nailed it once, APM is how much you remember. | ||
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shivver
United States232 Posts
On April 13 2013 03:04 crappen wrote: I agree with you. If those APMs would be made to split and control armies better while at the same time injecting, spreading creep, upgrades, new buildings, I would understand. This is just jumping back to hatcheries every few seconds for no reason. You also have minimap to check for armymovement. Anyway, would be nice to instead of speculating, to actually have some pros shed some light on this. When people's wrist hurt, get injured, and seeing this, it makes you wonder. And no, I dont buy the warm-up (unless first 10-30 minutes of the day). I've played instruments, and never have I seen someone spam their instrument to death before every new piece of music as "warm-up". I think Day9 nailed it once, APM is how much you remember. Pretty well said | ||
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Baum
Germany1010 Posts
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
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plasemeious
United States244 Posts
On April 12 2013 14:31 Canucklehead wrote: He means, you're quick to snap, get angry and take offense to comments and make things a bigger deal than it is. Khaldor is always aggressive in comments to things criticizing him. I don't really have a problem with that because it's natural to get mad at criticism. Everyone handles criticism differently. However, I did lose a lot of respect for khaldor over the way he treated dragon in the code a qualifies and by how much he hates dragon. Threatening not to stream dragon just because his fans were spamming chat was immature because dragon can't control that, so don't take it out on him. Khaldor also hates how dragon is an entertainer and runs a fun stream. https://twitter.com/Khaldor/statuses/316715211778306049 Hanzo @HanzoSC2 26 Mar Wow,@_sc2dragon reaching GM on a new account within the day... Impressive. In 2 years I've only reached gold. Yeah, I suck. Thomas Kilian @Khaldor @HanzoSC2 You actually watch Dragon??? I think I just lost all the respect I had for you :-( Yeah me too. I had heard his name before but this was the first time I oculd attach a name to the face. So he left a poor first impression then his overreaction here. I could have done without knowing who he was | ||
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