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On March 22 2013 22:52 bittman wrote:Today's scores (correct me if I'm wrong) WARNING: SPOILERS! + Show Spoiler [point distribution] +
Lucky +2
Yoda +3
Tear +2
Squirtle +8 (EDIT: oops I misread)
LG-IM +3
FXO +-0
All other LG-IM Players +1
All other FXO Players +0
EDIT: question answererer Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 22:47 Beavo wrote:
First time doinv this. How do you check your scores and rank? Scores and ranks will be updated typically some time after all games in a weekend have passed. So check again Sunday / Monday. You can find them here: http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/gstl/Standings.php?r=2Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 22:52 lawls544 wrote:
Why is Sting allowed to be picked for this (associated with NSH)? Isn't he currently on Western Wolves and not participating in this GSTL? I believe Western Wolves have formed a partnership with NSHS for GSTL. SortOf is noted as playing with them, I think Sting was noted likewise in the same announcement too? I wonder if Arthur will be able to play later as a new WW pickup? EDIT: I can't actually find the official roster or an announcement. Let me know if you have it!
WW's manager said only SortOf is playing with NSH
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Results are in for today, please let me know ASAP of any errors! Fantasy is a fickle system  .
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I lost points for IMByul and IMRagnarok being in the lineup despite them not actually being in there. If you check the VOD not every IM player was in the line up. My anti team consisted of byul, first and and ragnarok and only first was in the line up. Is this supposed to happen?
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On March 23 2013 06:35 decaf wrote:
I lost points for IMByul and IMRagnarok being in the lineup despite them not actually being in there. If you check the VOD not every IM player was in the line up. My anti team consisted of byul, first and and ragnarok and only first was in the line up. Is this supposed to happen?
Yes. We're not going to check who was on the bench for each match.
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Rank 5, I'll never be this high again.
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Looks like my picking of 3 IM players has paid off quite nicely
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On March 23 2013 06:36 monk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 06:35 decaf wrote:
I lost points for IMByul and IMRagnarok being in the lineup despite them not actually being in there. If you check the VOD not every IM player was in the line up. My anti team consisted of byul, first and and ragnarok and only first was in the line up. Is this supposed to happen? Yes. We're not going to check who was on the bench for each match.
So these players earn you minus points no matter what?
And I thought I was smart for picking my entire anti team from the same team..
edit: that being said, rules are kind of misleading and unclear for that matter
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On March 23 2013 06:39 decaf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 06:36 monk wrote:On March 23 2013 06:35 decaf wrote:
I lost points for IMByul and IMRagnarok being in the lineup despite them not actually being in there. If you check the VOD not every IM player was in the line up. My anti team consisted of byul, first and and ragnarok and only first was in the line up. Is this supposed to happen? Yes. We're not going to check who was on the bench for each match. So these players earn you minus points no matter what? And I thought I was smart for picking my entire anti team from the same team..
To be fair it's not a terrible idea. If at worst your anti-team members only lose 1 point every other week that's fine.
But yes, players from a winning team will always earn 1 point. It would be too unfair to choose members from larger teams otherwise. And then there could be debates if some unknown is on the bench.
On March 23 2013 06:34 R1CH wrote:Results are in for today, please let me know ASAP of any errors! Fantasy is a fickle system .
So it looks like first place is just someone that put down a lot of LG-IM players, as expected for day 1.
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On March 23 2013 06:42 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 06:39 decaf wrote:On March 23 2013 06:36 monk wrote:On March 23 2013 06:35 decaf wrote:
I lost points for IMByul and IMRagnarok being in the lineup despite them not actually being in there. If you check the VOD not every IM player was in the line up. My anti team consisted of byul, first and and ragnarok and only first was in the line up. Is this supposed to happen? Yes. We're not going to check who was on the bench for each match. So these players earn you minus points no matter what? And I thought I was smart for picking my entire anti team from the same team.. To be fair it's not a terrible idea. If at worst your anti-team members only lose 1 point every other week that's fine. But yes, players from a winning team will always earn 1 point. It would be too unfair to choose members from larger teams otherwise. And then there could be debates if some unknown is on the bench. Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 06:34 R1CH wrote:Results are in for today, please let me know ASAP of any errors! Fantasy is a fickle system . So it looks like first place is just someone that put down a lot of LG-IM players, as expected for day 1.
It's not about who's on the bench
they had every player listed in the beginning. But in the end, I don't care, it's all good. I'm just sayin.
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So i picked 6 IM players but squirtle wasn't one of them.
Damn,why do i suck so much 
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Hey guys,
There's something weird in the details concerning player values, perhaps someone could help me makes sense of this.
So from looking at the current players values, it seems that the basic trade value of a player is exactly 7 times his initial cost.
For example, Life's current trade value is 9*7 = 63.
Now, a player's value is supposed to increase if he's doing well. For example, Squirtle's initial trade value was 7*5 = 35, but after winning 3 games today, his value increased to 47.53.
However, FxoTear (Hurricane) also won 2 points today (by appearing, winning one and losing one), so you'd expect his value to increase above his initial value (which also should have 7*5 = 35). However, his value right now seems have decreased, standing at 31.17.
Can someone explain this to me?
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Values always decrease over time since a player has fewer chances to appear and earn points, even if they do well. Now he has 6 chances to appear, 6*5 = 30, but he's valued at 31.17 due to his performance.
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lol Reminds me of how I took a screenshot of the one time i was rank 1 in liquibets with the icon because it was the new liquibet season and i got the first one right. Tiebreaker for liquibets is post count xD
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On March 23 2013 06:51 EladTL wrote:
Hey guys,
There's something weird in the details concerning player values, perhaps someone could help me makes sense of this.
So from looking at the current players values, it seems that the basic trade value of a player is exactly 7 times his initial cost.
For example, Life's current trade value is 9*7 = 63.
Now, a player's value is supposed to increase if he's doing well. For example, Squirtle's initial trade value was 7*5 = 35, but after winning 3 games today, his value increased to 47.53.
However, FxoTear (Hurricane) also won 2 points today (by appearing, winning one and losing one), so you'd expect his value to increase above his initial value (which also should have 7*5 = 35). However, his value right now seems have decreased, standing at 31.17.
Can someone explain this to me?
The formulas are always the same:
TrVal = cost * (matches_left / matches_overall) + (points_scored / magic_number)
AdjTrVal = TrVal * matches_left
The two constants for this season of GSTL appear to be:
matches_overall = 7
magic_number = 2.2
Thus for  Squirtle as an example:
cost = 5
matches_left = 6
points_scored = 8
TrVal = 5 * (6 / 7) + (8 / 2.2) = ~7.92
AdjTrVal = ~7.92 * 6 = ~47.53
And for Tear:
cost = 5
matches_left = 6
points_scored = 2
TrVal = 5 * (6 / 7) + (2 / 2.2) = ~5.19
AdjTrVal = ~5.19 * 6 = ~31.17
And finally  Life:
cost = 9
matches_left = 7
points_scored = 0
TrVal = 9 * (7 / 7) + (0 / 2.2) = 9
AdjTrVal = 9 * 7 = 63
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On March 23 2013 06:37 Dodgin wrote:
Rank 5, I'll never be this high again.
I know that feeling... I'm *only* rank 9 overall but...
Terran Users: 1/2239. Feels good, even though I know it's not gonna last xD
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will there be a fantasy GSTL link next to liquibets like there is a FPL link?
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On March 23 2013 07:29 Proseat wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 23 2013 06:51 EladTL wrote:
Hey guys,
There's something weird in the details concerning player values, perhaps someone could help me makes sense of this.
So from looking at the current players values, it seems that the basic trade value of a player is exactly 7 times his initial cost.
For example, Life's current trade value is 9*7 = 63.
Now, a player's value is supposed to increase if he's doing well. For example, Squirtle's initial trade value was 7*5 = 35, but after winning 3 games today, his value increased to 47.53.
However, FxoTear (Hurricane) also won 2 points today (by appearing, winning one and losing one), so you'd expect his value to increase above his initial value (which also should have 7*5 = 35). However, his value right now seems have decreased, standing at 31.17.
Can someone explain this to me? The formulas are always the same: TrVal = cost * (matches_left / matches_overall) + (points_scored / magic_number) AdjTrVal = TrVal * matches_left The two constants for this season of GSTL appear to be: matches_overall = 7 magic_number = 2.2 Thus for Squirtle as an example: cost = 5 matches_left = 6 points_scored = 8 TrVal = 5 * (6 / 7) + (8 / 2.2) = ~7.92 AdjTrVal = ~7.92 * 6 = ~47.53 And for Tear: cost = 5 matches_left = 6 points_scored = 2 TrVal = 5 * (6 / 7) + (2 / 2.2) = ~5.19 AdjTrVal = ~5.19 * 6 = ~31.17 And finally Life: cost = 9 matches_left = 7 points_scored = 0 TrVal = 9 * (7 / 7) + (0 / 2.2) = 9 AdjTrVal = 9 * 7 = 63
Magic number(x) is a constant predicting the number of points any given player will score. For example, Hurricane, a player that costs 5 points is predicted to score 5*x points.(in this case since x = 2.2, 5*x = 11). If he scores more than 11 points by the end of the season, he has overperformed. By using previous rounds as reference, we've determined that for all-kill bo7 formats, the magic number is around 2.2 and for proleague style bo7 formats, that number is 3. If you can still follow this, then there are certain simple conclusions you can draw.
For example, it can be easily seen that the average 1 point player should earn ~3.5 points every round because even though he probably won't play, his team will, on average, win half of his games. This outscores the 3 magic number for the proleague format and way outscores the 2.2 magic number for the all-kill format. Thus, especially in all-kill formats, it can actually be a good idea to pick one-point players.
Also note that because all-kill style team league is so volatile, players usually won't get too close to their actual predicted score.
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JKS is on my anti-team. Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't he give me anti-team points? 0 right now.
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On March 23 2013 10:14 RPR_Tempest wrote:
JKS is on my anti-team. Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't he give me anti-team points? 0 right now.
+1 for appearance
-1 for loss
So no. There's no way to get a negative score in fantasy GSTL.
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