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On March 15 2013 23:02 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 23:00 mordk wrote:On March 15 2013 22:54 Abominous wrote:On March 15 2013 22:49 jj33 wrote:On March 15 2013 22:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 15 2013 22:47 jj33 wrote: If EG wants to be competitive in Korea, I really hope they get some really good players.
JYP isn't cutting it either.
lol JYP has the most wins in proleague for EGTL tied with HerO I've been watching proleague, doesn't matter. JYP will probably linger around Code A for a bit and disappear. There is much better talent in KOrea. JYP never impressed me. EG can do better. Alert the EG, JYP hasn't impressed a random nobody although he's achieved some good results, he simply doesn't cut it for a random. Sorry JYP, but you won't be missed. TBH JYP has always been dissapointing, one more grossly overhyped player. EG needs a true ace, a player with the personality, the mindset, and the skills of a true boss. I sincerely hope coach Park can spank Jaedong into a new bright era, his talent is getting wasted in EG so far. exactly. JYP was brought in as a Code S protoss. aaannnd yeaaa... that fizzled out quickly.
It's cool because I don't see people throwing random shit at HerO or TaeJa despite their lackluster performance in Proleague, while JYP has kept a record similar to their.
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On March 15 2013 23:01 Abominous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 22:56 jj33 wrote:On March 15 2013 22:54 Abominous wrote:On March 15 2013 22:49 jj33 wrote:On March 15 2013 22:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 15 2013 22:47 jj33 wrote: If EG wants to be competitive in Korea, I really hope they get some really good players.
JYP isn't cutting it either.
lol JYP has the most wins in proleague for EGTL tied with HerO I've been watching proleague, doesn't matter. JYP will probably linger around Code A for a bit and disappear. There is much better talent in KOrea. JYP never impressed me. EG can do better. Alert the EG, JYP hasn't impressed a random nobody although he's achieved some good results, he simply doesn't cut it for a random. Sorry JYP, but you won't be missed. Was waiting for a post like this. Think that affects me? you come off like a child. just simply saying EG needs better players to be more competitive. I'm pretty sure JYP's performance has been a disappointment for many people with his stint with EG. nice try though. Oh and what good results? Getting obliterated in code S? NOt winning one single foreign tournament? For a Korean protoss who was touted as a Code S talent, his results have been extremely lackluster. Okay, I'll play your game. Name another signing with which EG would do better.
I'm not playing any game. Nice strawman attempt.
I do not know the contract statuses of players in Korea, so I can't comment. But in general there are plenty of better players than JYP.
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On March 15 2013 22:59 xwoGworwaTsx wrote: if this is the case with puma, I am worried for incontrol and the others. i hope what they offered incontrol as a result of his poor performance is at least enough to put food on the table especially now that he has a family. would be horrible to see him starve and suffer because of it. As has been stated multile times, EG doesn't judge solely on tournament results. Tournament results is just part of how they judge a member's worth, and can be made up in other ways to expose the brand and sponsors. Incontrol is good at doing other things for eg and its sponsors bewidrs tourney results, so no need to fear for his livelihood or anything.
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Well, certainly can't accuse EG of not being transparent with thier announcement. EG do seem to be something of announcement speciailists actually...
At any rate, good luck to Puma.
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On March 15 2013 23:01 Abominous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 22:56 jj33 wrote:On March 15 2013 22:54 Abominous wrote:On March 15 2013 22:49 jj33 wrote:On March 15 2013 22:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 15 2013 22:47 jj33 wrote: If EG wants to be competitive in Korea, I really hope they get some really good players.
JYP isn't cutting it either.
lol JYP has the most wins in proleague for EGTL tied with HerO I've been watching proleague, doesn't matter. JYP will probably linger around Code A for a bit and disappear. There is much better talent in KOrea. JYP never impressed me. EG can do better. Alert the EG, JYP hasn't impressed a random nobody although he's achieved some good results, he simply doesn't cut it for a random. Sorry JYP, but you won't be missed. Was waiting for a post like this. Think that affects me? you come off like a child. just simply saying EG needs better players to be more competitive. I'm pretty sure JYP's performance has been a disappointment for many people with his stint with EG. nice try though. Oh and what good results? Getting obliterated in code S? NOt winning one single foreign tournament? For a Korean protoss who was touted as a Code S talent, his results have been extremely lackluster. Okay, I'll play your game. Name another signing with which EG would do better.
haha are you dense? you are comparing hero and taeja to jYP?
I like how you only look at proleague and not their performance as a whole.
Let's see taeja and hero both won multiple foreign tournaments for starters. Both much better results in code S, especially taeja.
Nice try man. EG would love to have taeja or hero over JYP anyday.
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On March 15 2013 23:03 Abominous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 23:02 jj33 wrote:On March 15 2013 23:00 mordk wrote:On March 15 2013 22:54 Abominous wrote:On March 15 2013 22:49 jj33 wrote:On March 15 2013 22:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 15 2013 22:47 jj33 wrote: If EG wants to be competitive in Korea, I really hope they get some really good players.
JYP isn't cutting it either.
lol JYP has the most wins in proleague for EGTL tied with HerO I've been watching proleague, doesn't matter. JYP will probably linger around Code A for a bit and disappear. There is much better talent in KOrea. JYP never impressed me. EG can do better. Alert the EG, JYP hasn't impressed a random nobody although he's achieved some good results, he simply doesn't cut it for a random. Sorry JYP, but you won't be missed. TBH JYP has always been dissapointing, one more grossly overhyped player. EG needs a true ace, a player with the personality, the mindset, and the skills of a true boss. I sincerely hope coach Park can spank Jaedong into a new bright era, his talent is getting wasted in EG so far. exactly. JYP was brought in as a Code S protoss. aaannnd yeaaa... that fizzled out quickly. It's cool because I don't see people throwing random shit at HerO or TaeJa despite their lackluster performance in Proleague, while JYP has kept a record similar to their. Huh? Both of them get plenty of shit from fans because of their poor performances in PL. Both were expected to do much better.
Stop being such a fanboy
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Well, former Mr. EG is out D= I think EG is really taking the path of the superstar sports teams where superstars come and go, arrive in their "prime" and discarded soon after a noticeable decline. With incoming superstars like Jaedong, Stephano, Thorzain etc this wasn't surprising at all, I guess if you're not a popular player and results stop coming then you're always gonna be in danger of losing your place. Sad to see someone I recognise as EG's first great pickup and first Korean leave, but I can't deny I do like the way the EG storyline is going, New York Yankees of eSports?
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On March 15 2013 23:07 Khai wrote: Well, former Mr. EG is out D= I think EG is really taking the path of the superstar sports teams where superstars come and go, arrive in their "prime" and discarded soon after a noticeable decline. With incoming superstars like Jaedong, Stephano, Thorzain etc this wasn't surprising at all, I guess if you're not a popular player and results stop coming then you're always gonna be in danger of losing your place. Sad to see someone I recognise as EG's first great pickup and first Korean leave, but I can't deny I do like the way the EG storyline is going, New York Yankees of eSports? They'd have to win a team league consistently to get that moniker. As it is now, they're lucky if they place in say top 8 or so.
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EG should ask themselves:
"Did we provide the right training environment for Puma?" "Did we help him develop into a better player?"
Often times, it's the employer's fault if employees underperform. I am not saying this is the case here, but it would be a slap in the face if Puma goes to another team and starts posting great results.
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On a serious side thought, we would they keep players like Machine and Demuslim who compared to puma accomplishes nothing in terms of tournament wins? Like the reasoning that they REALLY want to focus on Proleague and therefore needs a team where everyone performs their best seems like a strange way of thinking. It seems like there is more behind this, but in all fairness what do I know.
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So I guess if you're a player who plays poorly compared to high level Korean pros, you better make sure to be a popular streamer.
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On March 15 2013 23:18 IcookTacos wrote: On a serious side thought, we would they keep players like Machine and Demuslim who compared to puma accomplishes nothing in terms of tournament wins? Like the reasoning that they REALLY want to focus on Proleague and therefore needs a team where everyone performs their best seems like a strange way of thinking. It seems like there is more behind this, but in all fairness what do I know.
Demuslim had 6k+ viewers the other day. I'd say that is pretty good!
About Puma, I guess if he cant live with a lower sallary it makes sense to not want to sign with them again
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On March 15 2013 23:03 Abominous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 23:02 jj33 wrote:On March 15 2013 23:00 mordk wrote:On March 15 2013 22:54 Abominous wrote:On March 15 2013 22:49 jj33 wrote:On March 15 2013 22:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 15 2013 22:47 jj33 wrote: If EG wants to be competitive in Korea, I really hope they get some really good players.
JYP isn't cutting it either.
lol JYP has the most wins in proleague for EGTL tied with HerO I've been watching proleague, doesn't matter. JYP will probably linger around Code A for a bit and disappear. There is much better talent in KOrea. JYP never impressed me. EG can do better. Alert the EG, JYP hasn't impressed a random nobody although he's achieved some good results, he simply doesn't cut it for a random. Sorry JYP, but you won't be missed. TBH JYP has always been dissapointing, one more grossly overhyped player. EG needs a true ace, a player with the personality, the mindset, and the skills of a true boss. I sincerely hope coach Park can spank Jaedong into a new bright era, his talent is getting wasted in EG so far. exactly. JYP was brought in as a Code S protoss. aaannnd yeaaa... that fizzled out quickly. It's cool because I don't see people throwing random shit at HerO or TaeJa despite their lackluster performance in Proleague, while JYP has kept a record similar to their. Because they have results outside of proleaque.
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On March 15 2013 23:18 IcookTacos wrote: On a serious side thought, we would they keep players like Machine and Demuslim who compared to puma accomplishes nothing in terms of tournament wins? Like the reasoning that they REALLY want to focus on Proleague and therefore needs a team where everyone performs their best seems like a strange way of thinking. It seems like there is more behind this, but in all fairness what do I know. You didn't even read the OP then. Or any of the thread, since this is brought up on nearly every page...
They wanted to keep Puma on their team, but they didn't want him to be one of the highest paid people in EG when he doesn't get results that could possibly justify his wages. Puma refused to go down in salary despite performing worse so EG couldn't offer him a contract he'd accept.
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On March 15 2013 23:18 IcookTacos wrote: On a serious side thought, we would they keep players like Machine and Demuslim who compared to puma accomplishes nothing in terms of tournament wins? Like the reasoning that they REALLY want to focus on Proleague and therefore needs a team where everyone performs their best seems like a strange way of thinking. It seems like there is more behind this, but in all fairness what do I know.
Keeping Machine makes no sense at all. He gets the same zero win results as Incontrol, but doesn't bring any other attributes that Incontrol brings to the team and community.
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I really like the honesty in this post. Thanks for that.
Good luck in the future Puma!
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he was never a top calibre player, but he was the best terran EG had for a while. will miss him ez pz.
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Actually that's very sad news. PuMa was the pillar of EG for so long. After IdrA stopped bringing good results (with occassional peaks like MLG Orlando 4th place or IEM in china), it was PuMa that was bearing the EG banner, being their flag player results-wise for so long. He was the best player on EG roster for so freaking long time...
On March 15 2013 23:25 striderxxx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 23:18 IcookTacos wrote: On a serious side thought, we would they keep players like Machine and Demuslim who compared to puma accomplishes nothing in terms of tournament wins? Like the reasoning that they REALLY want to focus on Proleague and therefore needs a team where everyone performs their best seems like a strange way of thinking. It seems like there is more behind this, but in all fairness what do I know. Keeping Machine makes no sense at all. He gets the same zero win results as Incontrol, but doesn't bring any other attributes that Incontrol brings to the team and community. Maybe secretly he is EG.cook...
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I like the transparency in the press release. That way there isn't as much speculation as there often is with news like this. Even covering the fact that they tried to negotiate a lower salary and more foreign tournaments for him.
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