EPTPuma, why didn't you try to learn English?
All you had to do to keep your salary was say "Kingston Hyper X"
EG releases Ho Joon “PuMa” Lee - Page 21
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
Puma, why didn't you try to learn English? All you had to do to keep your salary was say "Kingston Hyper X" | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On March 15 2013 21:18 Sated wrote: Why post something like that without giving any more details!? >_< EDIT: PuMa has been falling off a little recently, so it does make sense that they would want to renegotiate his contract. He obviously feels that he is worth more than whatever he was offered, either in terms of money or tournament playtime, so all I can really do is wish him the best of luck in getting what he wants with another team. + Show Spoiler [Football Analogy] + To be honest, PuMa's signing always felt to me like the kind of signings Manchester City made when they first got all their money. Manchester City couldn't immediately sign the very best players because, despite being able to offer really big wages and despite being a well-supported club in England, they didn't have the EU reputation nor the EU results to attract truly ambitious players. It wasn't until their EU reputation increased after the signing of several proven players for whom they often had to pay inflated transfer fees/wages (I'm think of players like Robinho, or even players like Wayne Bridge) that they were able to attract the attention of the world's best footballers. I think the parallels with EG's NA vs. KR reputation are fairly obvious..? Your analogy fails, Puma was probably the best signing EG made in SC2 so far in terms of the results it earned them. Yes, he fell off, but Puma was one of the best players back then. | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
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Cauldron
Finland125 Posts
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jinsanity
United States137 Posts
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On March 15 2013 21:47 StarVe wrote: Your analogy fails, Puma was probably the best signing EG made in SC2 so far in terms of the results it earned them. Yes, he fell off, but Puma was one of the best players back then. Players are investments. You don't make investments based on how much exposure players generated for you in the distant past. You judge them on the recent past, current present, and what you think you can expect from them in the future. Puma doesn't speak English, stream, cast, go on e-sports shows on a weekly basis, tweet, interact with fans, etc. and didnt seem to have any indication that he would do so in the future, so the only way he could generate sponsorship exposure was with tournament results, so that's what he was judged on. The results in the recent past and present weren't good, and they probably didn't expect him to drastically improve, so when his contract ended and they were negotiating a new one, a pay cut was justified. | ||
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UndoneJin
United States438 Posts
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
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Abominous
Croatia1625 Posts
Thanks. | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On March 15 2013 22:08 HornyHerring wrote: If they're cutting Puma for no results and too high salary, players like Machine or Incontrol must be getting little to nothing in order for that statement to be justified. Please read the previous posts. They don't judge how much someone is worth based solely on tournament results. | ||
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
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Black[CAT]
Malaysia2589 Posts
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
On March 15 2013 22:20 Kznn wrote: flash to replace him? With the new head coach it's got to be Fantasy  . Unfortunately he is not looking so hot in SC2 right now. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On March 15 2013 21:47 Xpace wrote: I love it when Koreans learn English; there's a lot of money in tournaments outside Korea; it's a career opportunity for any pro-gamer. Plus, it doesn't hurt to have the most used language in the world in your repertoire, right? Polt, viOlet, MC, the star examples. Puma, why didn't you try to learn English? All you had to do to keep your salary was say "Kingston Hyper X" Are you sure about that? Because some sources claim that even the most spoken language (not the language with the most mother tongue speakers!) is still mandarin. source (for example): http://listverse.com/2008/06/26/top-10-most-spoken-languages-in-the-world/ | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On March 15 2013 20:49 Zealos wrote: Why should the salary of players be public information exactly? Because it helps players negotiate - if ppl knew how bad some salaries were... | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On March 15 2013 22:20 Kznn wrote: flash to replace him? Iirc, in his prime, Flash was making over 200k annually from salary alone. Even if it has probably dropped since then, Flash still probably makes a higher salary than any single player on EG. Kespa teams have quite a bit of money. Except maybe Team 8, who are directly sponsored by Kespa, but even they might not make it if they don't find a sponsor soon. Kespa probably won't back them forever. Jaedong was on Team 8, which is probably why he accepted EG's offer. And even then, negotiations were done through Kespa, and they made it so that he's technically on loan for a year, and would be contractually obligated to come back to Team 8 if they find a sponsor. EG probably can't afford Flash. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On March 15 2013 22:27 HornyHerring wrote: I stand by what I said, don't care that EG has players and "players". Well then you would be wrong on both counts. They don't judge based solely on results. And Incontrol at least is valuable to EG and is probably making good money from them. Not something huge, but enough to sustain a comfortable lifestyle and support a family. Don't know about Machine. | ||
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